McCown Starts
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lol he needs to do something different drop the money sign, cut it out with the johnny football shit and take a big boy name like John.
I would try to do the same thing for Trent Richardson. Id sign him back for minimum and tell him "we gonna try something different Trent. Cut the fucking Dreads off!!"
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McCown deserves the start. The offense, in limited time, looked good with him behind the helm. Manziel can still benefit from sitting, it's not a zero sum game.
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This is a smart move. McCown is clearly the better qb right now. He would have beaten the Titans, and might have beaten the Jets, if not for that flukey goal-line hit.
Obviously I wish Johnny was playing, but not much has changed. It's week 3, McCown is still better, Johnny still needs to get better. Also, if the defense keeps it up, this could be a playoff team. You have to give yourself the best chance to win NOW.
If nothing else, the team now knows that the backup can come in and win games if needed.
Agree, but I had fun switching sides of the JM argument for a while...
I think it was either Dilfer or Jaws that has talked about while good backups could win a game here and there, the longer the string of games they played, the poorer their results got... likely due to defensive game plans.
Just maybe we have two good backups that by design or happenstance end up rotating every couple games.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph do you really want to rekindle that mess?
As understand it, there was a huge board rift on here because of that.
Jesus by far had the best arm of that bunch...
It was a great drive up to the last play, and McCown looked good and had receivers drop a couple passes. Personally, I don't expect McCown will look that good very often based on his last 10+ years in the league though.
The Raiders should be a cake walk for him though - terrible defense, no pass rush.
One... don't sleep on the Raiders...
Two... you may well be right, Josh may revert to his career-long, established mean. But irrational as it may be, until he does, I'm still in the can-be-the-Chicago-Josh camp. Circumstances certainly lean that way to my eye...
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I can't get too upset about the decision. The idea that McCown did nothing to deserve to lose the job resonates with me, and he's a likeable guy that you want to root for. He better play pretty well, though, because the fan base is going to demand Manziel at the first sign of trouble. If McCown wants to keep the job, he's going to have to perform at a higher level than he essentially ever has. I don't know that this team has the weapons to make that likely.
As much as I like your posts there always seems to be one, new, little bit I react to. Already got the "fan base... demands" exposure yesterday, so pretty immune to that today...
Today it was "likable guy"... Somehow an extraneous influence is ascribed to rationalize QBs ending up in front of JM... last year it was "local boy".
i mean i feel 100% more confidence in manziel today than i did all of last year.
Any positive level divided by zero is ">>" 100%.
Steve, there will be a quiz...
One... don't sleep on the Raiders...
Two... you may well be right, Josh may revert to his career-long, established mean. But irrational as it may be, until he does, I'm still in the can-be-the-Chicago-Josh camp. Circumstances certainly lean that way to my eye...
Yea sleeping on any NFL team is not a god idea, hopefully the staff/players aren't doing it
Just pointing out their defense has been pretty terrible through the first 2 games.I hope Josh does really well, I'm just not very optimistic about it. Maybe after a full game he can raise my optimism level a bit.
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Manziel's inability to move the chains was masked by the two bombs to Benjamin, and Travis' punt return for a TD.
His inability to move the chains was masked by the inability of the coaches to be less than superconservative (read that entirely predictable) in the 3rd and 4th quarters and set him up for 3rd and long which is a sackers wet dream. The second bomb was set up by moving the chains from the 20 to the 50. The second TD was set up by moving them deep into the red zone. The first bomb was a planned play off a correct reading of the D by both QB and receiver. None of it was luck. Get your facts straight.
My fact ARE straight. Take off your Aggie-colored glasses and see the situation for what it is.His inability to move the chains was masked by the inability of the coaches to be less than superconservative (read that entirely predictable) in the 3rd and 4th quarters and set him up for 3rd and long which is a sackers wet dream. The second bomb was set up by moving the chains from the 20 to the 50. The second TD was set up by moving them deep into the red zone. The first bomb was a planned play off a correct reading of the D by both QB and receiver. None of it was luck. Get your facts straight.
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McCown blows.
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Put yourself in Haslem & Pettine shoes. Week 1 Jets. Pettine plays His starter QB and we were in charge up to Josh's effort. JM throws 1 Bomb and after that, the team wheels came off. Haslem has got to question "What the Hell was That?" and "Mike Fix It now." Pettine does his job, Preps team and JM to win home opener and not expose JM to losing it. Pettine proved today he values his job Now over the Browns Future since it's only Week 3. I trust what Pettine sees, now its up to his players to respond to his decision. Bet they play their asses off in response to their Coach. Not us nor the f'n media. Pettine job is to play individuals that get the team w's on Sunday Now. NFL(not for losing) Go Coach Pet!! (You only have to answer to your Dad)
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lol he needs to do something different drop the money sign, cut it out with the johnny football shit and take a big boy name like John.
I would try to do the same thing for Trent Richardson. Id sign him back for minimum and tell him "we gonna try something different Trent. Cut the fucking Dreads off!!"
lol he needs to do something different drop the money sign, cut it out with the johnny football shit and take a big boy name like John.
I would try to do the same thing for Trent Richardson. Id sign him back for minimum and tell him "we gonna try something different Trent. Cut the fucking Dreads off!!"
"Isaiah, Travis, you're cool...."
Dreads are awesome.
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if i'm worried about any position on the offense right now it's not QB, it's the non-existence of a running game.............again.
meanwhile benjamin made like 6 or 7 top 10 offensive lists...........while watkins can't be found on any one of them.
HMmmmmm.
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I'm not even sure it was the safe call. Start Johnny and Johnny doesn't play well then you can go back to McCown with a clear conscience. Start McCown and he shits the bed then you are an idiot.
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you signed mccown to be the number one. there was no discussion or controversy. he got hurt and the team (with manziel) lost the first game. he was still hurt come game time for the tits so the kid gets the start and the browns win. the number one qb is now healthy again so he gets the start, rightfully so.
i mean what's the big deal?
please don't give this psychobabble about confidence and yadda yadda......i think manziel is fine with the way the team is doing this. believe me we'll see more of manziel this year, one way or the other.
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.........Just when you think the Browns cant screw up any worse.....................
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I'm so happy we have yet another Manziel thread.
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yeah, i mean there's 2 threads already going about this.
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My fact ARE straight. Take off your Aggie-colored glasses and see the situation for what it is.His inability to move the chains was masked by the inability of the coaches to be less than superconservative (read that entirely predictable) in the 3rd and 4th quarters and set him up for 3rd and long which is a sackers wet dream. The second bomb was set up by moving the chains from the 20 to the 50. The second TD was set up by moving them deep into the red zone. The first bomb was a planned play off a correct reading of the D by both QB and receiver. None of it was luck. Get your facts straight.
My fact ARE straight. Take off your Aggie-colored glasses and see the situation for what it is.
No they were not straight. You made a blanket statement that he could not move the chains. I showed you that he not only moved the chains but correctly read the defense that allowed the quick first score. Today Pettine made the statement that with a 21 point lead they would have been just as conservative with Josh as they were with Manziel. What is so hard to understand about that. They wanted time off the clock by running. That limits the QB's ability to move the chains due to play calling, not ability. Put your football glasses on and go watch the game again.
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Well, Andy Lee is number 2 in the NFL for longest punt averages, Josh Gordon holds the title for most consecutive suspensions. What else is there to talk about?
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Well, Andy Lee is number 2 in the NFL for longest punt averages, Josh Gordon holds the title for most consecutive suspensions. What else is there to talk about?
Well, Andy Lee is number 2 in the NFL for longest punt averages, Josh Gordon holds the title for most consecutive suspensions. What else is there to talk about?
So is the next slip by JG a ban for life?
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travis benjamin is lighting it up offensively and is in a lot of top ten lists for wrs and return specialists...
oh and johnny made number one on a list:
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I wasn't aware that the backup can actually be benched. What am I missing here?
I thought your punk ass was banned from here and barfing hard.
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you signed mccown to be the number one. there was no discussion or controversy. he got hurt and the team (with manziel) lost the first game. he was still hurt come game time for the tits so the kid gets the start and the browns win. the number one qb is now healthy again so he gets the start, rightfully so.
i mean what's the big deal?
please don't give this psychobabble about confidence and yadda yadda......i think manziel is fine with the way the team is doing this. believe me we'll see more of manziel this year, one way or the other.
you signed mccown to be the number one. there was no discussion or controversy. he got hurt and the team (with manziel) lost the first game. he was still hurt come game time for the tits so the kid gets the start and the browns win. the number one qb is now healthy again so he gets the start, rightfully so.
i mean what's the big deal?
please don't give this psychobabble about confidence and yadda yadda......i think manziel is fine with the way the team is doing this. believe me we'll see more of manziel this year, one way or the other.
Dude, dude. McClown is a has been. A retread. Old by QB standards, hell, a SENIOR CITIZEN who runs into fucking linebackers and gets a cuntcussion because he is a dumbfuck.
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