2015 O-line Grades: Week 2 – Titans
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l'll admit it, l get a little giddy when you post these. Like a little girl in a candy shop with a shotgun. Candy corn please.
Only special request l have is probably something you'd do anyway, keep an eye up the middle. With Mack, does he improve, or do they start employing guard help with more regularity?
And curious how Malcolm will fare as the season wears on. Love me a badass fullback. Is he in sync with his halfback? Does he seem to have more mojo with Isiah or Duke?
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Thanks, Ag... actually I meant to talk a bit more about the 3TE sets.
All totaled we showed it 3 times that I can find in my notes: S2P9, S3P1, and S4P2. Surprisingly one run and two passes out of it.
- 1st was 2 to the right and a Toss left, away from strength. It was good for 3.
- 2nd was 2 left and was a PA boot right... the one JM ran for 3 yards (smart, conservative play).
- 3rd was 2 right and was the ill-advised PA deep ball to Hawk in double coverage.
Also meant to mention the exaggerated shifts Flip is bringing in. In S2P7 we shifted from:
- JM under Center with an I and 2 TE tight to the right;
to:
- Shotgun with an empty backfield, 3 "WRs" with 2 to the right and the 2 TEs split out one per side.
Never saw that from Shanny... at least not that I can recall.
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Andy Moeller Who? Tour get in our OL room. God dell will end Moeller's season as quick as it is in his hands. Thanks for the football for junkies weekly. You know it is coming and we are all baffled with the only Run Right ZBS. Most like I believe the strength of the line is to left behind JT & Joel. Are we a 1 sided "Do your Job" OL? If the tape can even show you anything to answer? thanks.
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As usual, great job Tour.
I still don't understand why Flip won't even consider attempting a screen pass.
Duke would be perfect for that, not to mention give that D something to think about.
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I was about to say: Have we attempted one screen pass this year?
Do we even HAVE a screen pass in our arsenal? Because I honestly don't recall seeing one.
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I'm glad you posted that about Bowe's actions on the one pas
thrown to him. It looked like Johnny put the ball right where it
should have been but Bowe wanted no part of it. It looked like
he (Bowe) just quit on the ball. Makes me think he is just here
for the paycheck. He really needs to step it up.
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I was about to say: Have we attempted one screen pass this year?
Do we even HAVE a screen pass in our arsenal? Because I honestly don't recall seeing one.
I was about to say: Have we attempted one screen pass this year?
Do we even HAVE a screen pass in our arsenal? Because I honestly don't recall seeing one.
And Flip specifically said they were going to get the backs involved this season......
Last season we completed 32 whole passes to our backs( 2 per game).....Lowest # in the entire league......
This season....so far....we've completed 4 passes to the backs(2 per game).....
So...absolutely Zero change....
Flip had me worried in preseason and the prevailing thought was he was playing vanilla so as not to show his hand....
Welllllll.........Im waiting.....
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I would add that we have a HOF left Tackle and a pro-bowl caliber left guard.....yet we run more to the right?....
So tricky.....
I would add that we have a HOF left Tackle and a pro-bowl caliber left guard.....yet we run more to the right?....
So tricky.....
They must like what they see on the right side, and the grades seem to back it up. With Bito being a pull guy, he can basically be on the right side if the play calls for it.
And l figure they are building some scouting material for other teams so that once they start heavily defending the right side, boom, we go left.
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Mitchell Schwartz: 1st +13-3 net +10 w/ 1D+; 2nd +4-1 net +4 w/ 1D+; Game Totals: +17-4 net +13
Wait… What? Co-valedictorian Schwartz? Maybe he did it for his #1 fan, Zombo. Maybe has something to do with a contract year? Maybe we should just not over think this…
Seriously, the big difference in Mitch’s game this week was his “punch”. He was thumping opponents’ breast plates from the opening bell… one-handers and two-handers… in both run and pass blocking… to great effect.
Mitch received no D- scores for the game… none. And so few “-“, that I can report them. A swim move beat him to pressure JM on the opening TD to Benji (S1P2). Created no push on 3rd&1 run (S2P3) that Crow converted (questionable spot). Speed rusher gained edge ultimately flushing JM (S4P3). Speed rusher gained edge, but JM able to slide under rush and complete medium throw to Hawk (S7P4).
Last week I said, “Need to work on the control, Mitch and the D+’s will come.” Here are his D+’s: a key 2nd-level, seal block in Crow’s TD run (S2P8); a pretty chip and 2nd level block (S6P1); and finally a nice, outside seal block (S9P1). All of these were examples of an improved body control. None better than the Key TD-run block which was in as much space as I have ever seen Mitch be successful in.
Mitch had a very, very good week. Now he needs to build on it.
Maybe he's a good 26 year old right tackle who has never missed a snap in 50 consecutive starts since being drafted.
Think he'll get paid?
Zombo
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l'll admit it, l get a little giddy when you post these. Like a little girl in a candy shop with a shotgun. Candy corn please.
Only special request l have is probably something you'd do anyway, keep an eye up the middle. With Mack, does he improve, or do they start employing guard help with more regularity?
And curious how Malcolm will fare as the season wears on. Love me a badass fullback. Is he in sync with his halfback? Does he seem to have more mojo with Isiah or Duke?
Only special request l have is probably something you'd do anyway, keep an eye up the middle. With Mack, does he improve, or do they start employing guard help with more regularity?
And curious how Malcolm will fare as the season wears on. Love me a badass fullback. Is he in sync with his halfback? Does he seem to have more mojo with Isiah or Duke?
On helping Mack... given the nature of the ZBS not going to see much in the run, but certainly can watch for it in PassPro and count the double teams. So far I'm not getting a sense of any shading to Mack as I did last year of us helping McDonald and Seymour.
Not seeing a mind meld yet between MJ and whichever RB is behind MJ in the "I"... but it's early.
Really?! LOL!
Nonetheless on that play I was yelling at the tv.................."Not into double coverage Johnny!"
Worst play of the day IMO. He got away with one.
Alrighty then... I'll crank up the thread machine...
You know it is coming and we are all baffled with the only Run Right ZBS. Most like I believe the strength of the line is to left behind JT & Joel. Are we a 1 sided "Do your Job" OL? If the tape can even show you anything to answer? thanks.
Thanks, gum...
I'll tabulate where we run from now on. The data is in my notes, so no big effort.
Here are our game 2 results from WideLeft to WideRight:
WL-1 / L-10 / M-9 / R-7 / WR-0
Surprisingly not to the right...
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I was about to say: Have we attempted one screen pass this year?
Do we even HAVE a screen pass in our arsenal? Because I honestly don't recall seeing one.
I was about to say: Have we attempted one screen pass this year?
Do we even HAVE a screen pass in our arsenal? Because I honestly don't recall seeing one.
We threw a bubble screen... Does that count?
It was S4P1, a snap pass to Gabe with one WR split out with him. Went for a gain of -3. Barn missed the key block.
Been a long time since I've seen a successful Browns' screen.
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I'm glad you posted that about Bowe's actions on the one pas
thrown to him. It looked like Johnny put the ball right where it
should have been but Bowe wanted no part of it. It looked like
he (Bowe) just quit on the ball. Makes me think he is just here
for the paycheck. He really needs to step it up.
I'm glad you posted that about Bowe's actions on the one pass thrown to him. It looked like Johnny put the ball right where it should have been but Bowe wanted no part of it. It looked like he (Bowe) just quit on the ball. Makes me think he is just here for the paycheck. He really needs to step it up.
Just trying to throw those who "know" I am a Johnny-hater" off the proverbial scent by speaking the truth for once...
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Mitchell Schwartz: 1st +13-3 net +10 w/ 1D+; 2nd +4-1 net +4 w/ 1D+; Game Totals: +17-4 net +13
Wait… What? Co-valedictorian Schwartz? Maybe he did it for his #1 fan, Zombo. Maybe has something to do with a contract year? Maybe we should just not over think this…
Seriously, the big difference in Mitch’s game this week was his “punch”. He was thumping opponents’ breast plates from the opening bell… one-handers and two-handers… in both run and pass blocking… to great effect.
Mitch received no D- scores for the game… none. And so few “-“, that I can report them. A swim move beat him to pressure JM on the opening TD to Benji (S1P2). Created no push on 3rd&1 run (S2P3) that Crow converted (questionable spot). Speed rusher gained edge ultimately flushing JM (S4P3). Speed rusher gained edge, but JM able to slide under rush and complete medium throw to Hawk (S7P4).
Last week I said, “Need to work on the control, Mitch and the D+’s will come.” Here are his D+’s: a key 2nd-level, seal block in Crow’s TD run (S2P8); a pretty chip and 2nd level block (S6P1); and finally a nice, outside seal block (S9P1). All of these were examples of an improved body control. None better than the Key TD-run block which was in as much space as I have ever seen Mitch be successful in.
Mitch had a very, very good week. Now he needs to build on it.
Maybe he's a good 26 year old right tackle who has never missed a snap in 50 consecutive starts since being drafted.
Think he'll get paid?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Maybe he's a good 26 year old right tackle who has never missed a snap in 50 consecutive starts since being drafted.
Think he'll get paid?
He's gotten better every year, Z, and never before has topped my little weekly chart. Will be interesting to watch him through the year. Starting this week...
Mitch had his hands full with K.Mack last year.
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