Annual Prediction time
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Well, that could kinda make them the San Diego Chargers from the late 70s, early 80s, with Dan Fouts, Jefferson/Joiner,and Chuck Muncie.....but I actually think that team had better defensive performers.
OK, they could be good.
But again I ask.....when did the adage "games are won and lost in the trenches" no longer become a truism?
... or the Aikman/ Smith/ Irving Cowboys... with a very good D.
Trenches count... if you know nothing else about me, you know I believe that, Gip. And the Steelers O-line is good, even without Pouncey who makes them very good.
It's just that what makes PTG's Offense scary good is their set of triplets.
... or the Aikman/ Smith/ Irving Cowboys... with a very good D.
Trenches count... if you know nothing else about me, you know I believe that, Gip. And the Steelers O-line is good, even without Pouncey who makes them very good.
It's just that what makes PTG's Offense scary good is their set of triplets.
While BR may be on Aikman's level....I am not prepared to say that Brown and Bell are on the Smith/Irving level at this point.
And I agree trenches count.....and they are below avg. there in my opinion.......and if defensive backfields also count....then they are in the lower quarter in the league there as far as I am concerned.
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I bring up Smith and Irving only as a triplet point of reference. They with Aikman constituted the first trio dubbed triplets that I can recall.
I'd argue that both Bell and Brown have shown the promise of being Smith and Irving comparison worthy, but certainly they lack the longevity at this point.
We'll just have to disagree on the PTG O-line, but we can agree on their secondary being sub-standard... especially after last nite.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I bring up Smith and Irving only as a triplet point of reference. They with Aikman constituted the first trio dubbed triplets that I can recall.
I'd argue that both Bell and Brown have shown the promise of being Smith and Irving comparison worthy, but certainly they lack the longevity at this point.
We'll just have to disagree on the PTG O-line, but we can agree on their secondary being sub-standard... especially after last nite.
I bring up Smith and Irving only as a triplet point of reference. They with Aikman constituted the first trio dubbed triplets that I can recall.
I seem to recall other previous trios of offensive skilled players being called triplets....but those Cowboys did get the hype about it more than others did (as is usually the case with the Cowboys)
Hell, the Baltimore Colts had Quadruplets....when it came to Hall of Fame skill players: QB Johnny Unitas,RB Lenny Moore, WR Ray Berry, TE John Mackey.
I mean....Otto Graham, Marion Motley and Dante Lavelli were early "triplets".
I'd argue that both Bell and Brown have shown the promise of being Smith and Irving comparison worthy, but certainly they lack the longevity at this point.
Fair enough.
We'll just have to disagree on the PTG O-line, but we can agree on their secondary being sub-standard... especially after last nite.
Well, perhaps we can agree on this: they are well coached and may be able to overachieve. But I think last night to be honest they faced what really is now a fairly week DL....and an average set of LBs.
I think they will be facing another depleted defense next week when the play the 49ers. But the week after that they will play a monster DL in the Rams. Let's see how that goes.
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Having triplets and being widely known as "triplets" are completely different. Not going to claim the following as authoritative, but since it says what I am saying...
In the early 1990s, the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys showed just how far a fantastic trio can take a team, winning three Super Bowls in a four-year span thanks in large part to the original Triplets — a trio of Hall of Fame inductees featuring quarterback Troy Aikman, tailback Emmitt Smith and wideout Michael Irvin.
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-triplets-sec-qb-rb-wr-2015/
Absolutely agree that the Pats D is average at best right now... and I'll even throw their secondary into that analysis. Their LB Corps is now their strength and is intact. Individually the names don't impress, but Bill makes them work. Whole far exceeds sum of their parts... but they miss Wilfork's blocker-eating mass. Also agree the unit will get much better as season progresses.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Having triplets and being widely known as "triplets" are completely different. Not going to claim the following as authoritative, but since it says what I am saying...
In the early 1990s, the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys showed just how far a fantastic trio can take a team, winning three Super Bowls in a four-year span thanks in large part to the original Triplets — a trio of Hall of Fame inductees featuring quarterback Troy Aikman, tailback Emmitt Smith and wideout Michael Irvin.
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-triplets-sec-qb-rb-wr-2015/
Absolutely agree that the Pats D is average at best right now... and I'll even throw their secondary into that analysis. Their LB Corps is now their strength and is intact. Individually the names don't impress, but Bill makes them work. Whole far exceeds sum of their parts... but they miss Wilfork's blocker-eating mass. Also agree the unit will get much better as season progresses.
Having triplets and being widely known as "triplets" are completely different. Not going to claim the following as authoritative, but since it says what I am saying...
In the early 1990s, the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys showed just how far a fantastic trio can take a team, winning three Super Bowls in a four-year span thanks in large part to the original Triplets — a trio of Hall of Fame inductees featuring quarterback Troy Aikman, tailback Emmitt Smith and wideout Michael Irvin.
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-triplets-sec-qb-rb-wr-2015/
Well, what you are saying here is that those guys have been given the name Triplets, by the media. That it is a moniker like the Doomsday Defense or the Steeler Curtain. I don't know....maybe that is so.
But my point is that they are by NO means the original QB/RB/WR trio to make the HOF.
I gave you the Browns: Graham, Motley, Lavelli
Rams: Van Brocklin, Fears, Hirsch
Colts: Unitas, Berry, Moore
Dolphins: Griese, Csonka, Warfield
Steelers: Bradshaw, Harris Swann/Stallworth
and Cowboys contemporaries: Kelly, Thomas, Reed.
So there were Triplets, even if they were not called Triplets.
Absolutely agree that the Pats D is average at best right now... and I'll even throw their secondary into that analysis. Their LB Corps is now their strength and is intact. Individually the names don't impress, but Bill makes them work. Whole far exceeds sum of their parts... but they miss Wilfork's blocker-eating mass. Also agree the unit will get much better as season progresses.
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I bring up Smith and Irving only as a triplet point of reference. They with Aikman constituted the first trio dubbed triplets that I can recall.
I seem to recall other previous trios of offensive skilled players being called triplets....but those Cowboys did get the hype about it more than others did (as is usually the case with the Cowboys)
Hell, the Baltimore Colts had Quadruplets....when it came to Hall of Fame skill players: QB Johnny Unitas,RB Lenny Moore, WR Ray Berry, TE John Mackey.
I mean....Otto Graham, Marion Motley and Dante Lavelli were early "triplets".
I'd argue that both Bell and Brown have shown the promise of being Smith and Irving comparison worthy, but certainly they lack the longevity at this point.
Fair enough.
We'll just have to disagree on the PTG O-line, but we can agree on their secondary being sub-standard... especially after last nite.
Well, perhaps we can agree on this: they are well coached and may be able to overachieve. But I think last night to be honest they faced what really is now a fairly week DL....and an average set of LBs.
I think they will be facing another depleted defense next week when the play the 49ers. But the week after that they will play a monster DL in the Rams. Let's see how that goes.
I bring up Smith and Irving only as a triplet point of reference. They with Aikman constituted the first trio dubbed triplets that I can recall.
I seem to recall other previous trios of offensive skilled players being called triplets....but those Cowboys did get the hype about it more than others did (as is usually the case with the Cowboys)
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My predictions
Week 1 : @Jets W 19-17
Week 2 : Titans W 21-13
Week 3 : Raiders W 27-26
Week 4 : @ Chargers L 31-17
Week 5 : @ Ravens L 19-7
Week 6 : Broncos L 28-24
Week 7 : @ Rams L 23-13
Week 8 : Cardinals W 24-23
Week 9 : @ Bengals L 21-19
Week 10 : @ Steelers : L 31-24
Week 11 : Bye
Week 12 : Ravens W 24-18
Week 13 : Bengals W 24-10
Week 14 : 49ers W 17-15
Week 15 : @ Seahawks L 23-7
Week 16 : @ Chiefs L 26-14
Week 17 : Steelers L 25-13
Final record : 7-9
Offensive MVP : Offensive Line
Defensive MVP : Karlos Dansby
Biggest takeaway : 100 years' war continues
Biggest disappointment : Last two weeks
Browns' Pro Bowler : Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, Joe Haden, Tashaun Gipson, Danny Shelton, Andy Lee
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After watching today.
2-14 bring on the #1 pick
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I focus so much on the Browns and AFC North that I'm not too good at predictions involving the other divisions, but here goes:
AFC North- Browns figure out a way to protect their home field and win division
AFC East: Patriots
AFC South: Houston edges out Indy
AFC West: Chargers
AFC Wild Cards: Steelers, Broncos
NFC East: NY Giants
NFC North: Packers
NFC South: Falcons
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC WIld Cards: Cardinals, Eagles
Super Bowl (homer pick): Browns over Packers, shock the world
Super Bowl (reality pick): Packers over Patriots
I focus so much on the Browns and AFC North that I'm not too good at predictions involving the other divisions, but here goes:
AFC North- Browns figure out a way to protect their home field and win division
AFC East: Patriots
AFC South: Houston edges out Indy
AFC West: Chargers
AFC Wild Cards: Steelers, Broncos
NFC East: NY Giants
NFC North: Packers
NFC South: Falcons
NFC West: Seahawks
NFC WIld Cards: Cardinals, Eagles
Super Bowl (homer pick): Browns over Packers, shock the world
Super Bowl (reality pick): Packers over Patriots
So much for my Browns optimism. Here I thought we'd be a "surprise team" this season, instead we once again can't protect the home field.
I've lost a ton of faith this afternoon, hopefully the bottom won't fall out. Awful performance.
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I appreciate everyone's optimism but it's frustrating
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