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We Got St. Clair

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  • Sez.EJ S
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    S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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    Found this in Roto Times;

    John St. Clair, T, Chicago Bears Tuesday 3/17, 5:52 PM CT

    Updating a previous report, the Browns have agreed to terms with John St. Clair, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. The deal is worth a reported $9 million over three years with $1.25 million guaranteed.

    Our View: The Browns won out in the bidding war, even though Chicago offered more guaranteed money. St. Clair is slated to start at right tackle next season.

    My view: looks like he started every game last year.. Something to be said for that alone with our history. We will see how this works out. I don't know that much about the guy. The bears ran the ball very well last year and were 13th in sacks given up.. How many were his.. I have no clue. But looks like another solid pickup for the new regime.. The bears wanted to keep him and that also says something..

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    • Gips GipsG
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      GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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      Another solid stopgap pickup though a little more costly because chicago didnt wanna give him up he started every game last year so it will be interesting to see if he competes to start...😉

      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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      • S Sez.EJ

        Found this in Roto Times;

        John St. Clair, T, Chicago Bears Tuesday 3/17, 5:52 PM CT

        Updating a previous report, the Browns have agreed to terms with John St. Clair, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. The deal is worth a reported $9 million over three years with $1.25 million guaranteed.

        Our View: The Browns won out in the bidding war, even though Chicago offered more guaranteed money. St. Clair is slated to start at right tackle next season.

        My view: looks like he started every game last year.. Something to be said for that alone with our history. We will see how this works out. I don't know that much about the guy. The bears ran the ball very well last year and were 13th in sacks given up.. How many were his.. I have no clue. But looks like another solid pickup for the new regime.. The bears wanted to keep him and that also says something..

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        ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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        @sez.ej said:

        The bears ran the ball very well last year and were 13th in sacks given up.. How many were his.. I have no clue.

        He gave up 9.75 sacks, according to the list cited here.

        If he ends up starting for us, I hope it's at guard.

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          Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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          Were going to need linemen, when Mangini makes them run sprints most of the old Romeo guys will want to leave.

          I feel its a good pick up, we need another versatile O-Line guy who will be ready to play this year, instead of drafting one in the later rounds who may take a couple of years to get ready to the speed.

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            @sez.ej said:

            The bears ran the ball very well last year and were 13th in sacks given up.. How many were his.. I have no clue.

            He gave up 9.75 sacks, according to the list cited here.

            If he ends up starting for us, I hope it's at guard.

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            Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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            Aloysius said:

            He gave up 9.75 sacks, according to the list cited here.

            If he ends up starting for us, I hope it's at guard.

            Those sacks were as a LT. A place he should have never been in the first place.

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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              P Preston wrote on last edited by
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              As a Bears fan, lemme add a few things....

              St. Clair was set to start at left guard when Chris Williams got injured and he get's thrust into the starting left tackle role. He can play very well as a backup at RG, RT, LG and LT. He's a very versatile lineman who is the kind of guy you wanna have around. He did give up a pretty large number of sacks if I'm not mistaken but he wasn't as bad as the stats show him to be. Remember, this is a Bears team that's offense was supposed to rank 32nd, and the line was considered completely horrible. We even lose our starting, first-round left tackle and at one point have the #2 offense in the league. You guys are lucky to get him.

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                Aloysius said:

                He gave up 9.75 sacks, according to the list cited here.

                If he ends up starting for us, I hope it's at guard.

                Those sacks were as a LT. A place he should have never been in the first place.

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                @oldcrow1945 said:

                Those sacks were as a LT. A place he should have never been in the first place.

                True. But it's not like he suddenly earned the nickname "the Human Turnstile" last year; pass blocking has always been the weaker part of his game.

                As damajuki and Preston have noted, St. Clair did an adequate job subbing in at LT last year, but he was supposed to start at guard. That seems to be a better spot for him.

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                  PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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                  Good pickup if he can help the run game

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                    @oldcrow1945 said:

                    Those sacks were as a LT. A place he should have never been in the first place.

                    True. But it's not like he suddenly earned the nickname "the Human Turnstile" last year; pass blocking has always been the weaker part of his game.

                    As damajuki and Preston have noted, St. Clair did an adequate job subbing in at LT last year, but he was supposed to start at guard. That seems to be a better spot for him.

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                    D damajuki wrote on last edited by
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                    Aloysius said:

                    True. But it's not like he suddenly earned the nickname "the Human Turnstile" last year; pass blocking has always been the weaker part of his game.

                    As damajuki and Preston have noted, St. Clair did an adequate job subbing in at LT last year, but he was supposed to start at guard. That seems to be a better spot for him.

                    Thanks for the shout-out, Al.

                    I actually thought he was going to start at RT before Williams' injury. I'm pretty sure they were planning on dumping Fred Miller but when Williams went down they enticed him to stay for another year and moved St. Clair over to LT.

                    Either way, I think he's a serviecable player and as I posted in the other St. Clair thread, he's almost a prototypical example of a Mangini guy: high character, team-first, quiet leader, well-respected, a true pro's pro.

                    Love this pickup at this cost.

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                      OK call me odd but who is this dude?

                      He's a solid veteran backup tackle. Can backup both LT and RT. To me that means that Tucker will be given the shot at RT if he can stay healthy and we have a solid backup now. We also have a backup for Thomas since Shaffer is gone. Also, in emergency, Womack can also backup at tackle.

                      Tucker is done rehabbing and is as close to 100% as I think he can be. The question is can he hold up over 16 games.

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                      onefellswoop7O onefellswoop7 wrote on last edited by
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                      @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                      He's a solid veteran backup tackle. Can backup both LT and RT. To me that means that Tucker will be given the shot at RT if he can stay healthy and we have a solid backup now. We also have a backup for Thomas since Shaffer is gone. Also, in emergency, Womack can also backup at tackle.

                      Tucker is done rehabbing and is as close to 100% as I think he can be. The question is can he hold up over 16 games.

                      Eric Steinbach is our backup LT if I'm not mistaken. I highly doubt RAC EVER thought that is Thomas was injured that Shaffer would be the guy to spot sub for LT haha.

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                        @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                        He's a solid veteran backup tackle. Can backup both LT and RT. To me that means that Tucker will be given the shot at RT if he can stay healthy and we have a solid backup now. We also have a backup for Thomas since Shaffer is gone. Also, in emergency, Womack can also backup at tackle.

                        Tucker is done rehabbing and is as close to 100% as I think he can be. The question is can he hold up over 16 games.

                        Eric Steinbach is our backup LT if I'm not mistaken. I highly doubt RAC EVER thought that is Thomas was injured that Shaffer would be the guy to spot sub for LT haha.

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                        P pl4tinum wrote on last edited by
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                        @onefellswoop7 said:

                        I highly doubt RAC EVER thought

                        I would have to agree

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                          Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          So we've got Tucker, St. Clair, Pork Chop and Hadnot, all who could start on the right side... plus McKinney, Sowels, Scott Young, Lennie Friedmann...

                          Who starts at RG and RT?

                          I'm guessing Friedman backs up the left side, McKinney backs up center (wouldn't be surprised if they draft a center).

                          I'm guessing Sowels and Hadnot are gone because they are Savage guys and we just signed two guys who are better.

                          I'm thinking Tucker at RT, St. Clair at RG with Pork Chop backing up the right side?

                          I don't know how it will play out, but I'm feeling good about the veteren depth here.

                          Zombo

                          I'm thinking ust the opposite. Tucker at RG and St. Clair at RT, but who knows what Tucker will look like once practice starts. If he's back to 2007 form then maybe he starts at RT and St Clair and Womack work out at RG while Fraley and Hadnot fight for the center job. bottom line is we know have some depth at all line positions. Last I heard Freidman wasn't coming back. McKinnley can play Guard and Center. Sowels stays around through training camp as insurance against injuries.

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                            S Solon16 wrote on last edited by
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                            Hmmmm...3 years 9 million....Great evaluation ALOY!

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                              halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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                              Why are you bumping your old threads?

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                                A body that you hope doesn't have to play all that often. He's a step below Shaffer.

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                                Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                A body that you hope doesn't have to play all that often. He's a step below Shaffer.

                                Wow. heck has 24" pythons. Totally nailed this one, brother.

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