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  • Not until we will not abandon the plan of re-building this team through the draft year after year and start going into free agency in a serious way.

  • Not until we will not abandon the plan of re-building this team through the draft year after year and start going into free agency in a serious way.

    @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    Not until we will not abandon the plan of re-building this team through the draft year after year and start going into free agency in a serious way.

    I don't know who would want to come to Cleveland unless they backed up the Brinks truck.

  • well there is the browns MOTTO. maybe next year. how sad is that? );

  • Coulda traded up for Lockett, but no, he had to go to the rich, smart people in Seattle where he just ran one back for a franchise record 105 yd ko return.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Coulda traded up for Lockett, but no, he had to go to the rich, smart people in Seattle where he just ran one back for a franchise record 105 yd ko return.

    Lockett is the last thing we need. Great athlete but not a need of ours
  • @texasag1969 said:

    Coulda traded up for Lockett, but no, he had to go to the rich, smart people in Seattle where he just ran one back for a franchise record 105 yd ko return.

    Lockett is the last thing we need. Great athlete but not a need of ours

    @jcam222 said:

    Lockett is the last thing we need. Great athlete but not a need of ours

    Really? I didn't see too many of our talented receivers giving too many open looks. Oh, I forgot. Our GM does not give much credence to talented receivers as a necessary ingredient to success. They'd rather run our semi-talented backs behind our sometimes talented line for 2 yards and a cloud of dust.

  • I was at the game so maybe I should re watch it on dvr. What I saw were receivers open downfield often he didn't even see. At least one, if not two shots he did take down were over thrown. Plenty of other open receivers were thrown over and behind. Receivers had to wait for throws to come to them. Just overall poor QB play.

  • 5 hours later. Lockett still wouldn't be starting at receiver for us.

  • I'm watching highlights. Browns defense did look terrible. OMG! Latavious Murray tore them up. Derek Carr looked like a seasoned veteran. Too bad we passed on him for Justin Gilbert.

    I threw out my ROSE COLORED GLASSES ten years ago.

    Farmer is NOT a good GM and it shows. PETTINE is questionable. He's a defense coach drafting defensive players and we are worse than last year. We're not getting better but we are getting older. If they don't win next week fire the coaches. Do something!

    Farmer drafted WR Vince Mayle who is now a Cowboy. Terence West was never given a chance. Crowell and Duke Johnson look terrible.

    Hartline and Benjamin look good but McCown's lack of arm strength lost the game. He's another Hoyer

  • @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    Not until we will not abandon the plan of re-building this team through the draft year after year and start going into free agency in a serious way.

    I don't know who would want to come to Cleveland unless they backed up the Brinks truck.

    @baconhound said:

    I don't know who would want to come to Cleveland unless they backed up the Brinks truck.

    I can see someone who isn't starting/getting the reps they want deciding to play for the Browns for less than a Brinks truck, especially a younger player agreeing to a short contract looking to stand out on a few plays. He might bet on looking better by comparison (to his teammates) and could claim he would have done even more/better on more consistent and talented team. You'd need someone in the Browns front office who could spot such potential talent on another team and make the right kind of pitch, though. Would have to mix that with getting some aging talent that still wants a couple more seasons. At present I don't see such maneuvering/risk taking as either likely or successful.

  • @the-italian-dawgpound said:

    Not until we will not abandon the plan of re-building this team through the draft year after year and start going into free agency in a serious way.

    I don't know who would want to come to Cleveland unless they backed up the Brinks truck.

    @baconhound said:

    I don't know who would want to come to Cleveland unless they backed up the Brinks truck.

    To an extent but more important is to hit on your high draft picks. (and not start over every two years)

    Backing up the Brinks truck is the same in every NFL city. Thanks to the salary cap all 32 Brinks trucks contain the same amount of cash. And unless I'm mistaken like our friend Mike Brown done in Cincinnati, the owner of the Cleveland Browns pays out substantially less that he has to.

    Ownership gets to keep what they don't spend from the salary cap.

    And just like picking good draft choices you need to get good free agents even if you do have to back up that truck. Unlike Dwayne Bowe.

    WSS

  • I've said this before...The only way this team will ever get any better is if the NFL itself takes over the team..year after year, the management of this team rolls out a 4-12 / 5-11 team. The NFL can't even put this team on national TV anymore.....This franchise is killing the NFL brand. If you go back and look at the win/losses since the browns came back in 1999/2000 this franchise has had 2 year of playing over 500....not playoff contenders..just over 500..2 years in over 15 years?.....

    Maybe this team needs to move again...LA perhaps?....

    look at how relevant the Ravens have been since the Browns moved there..perennial playoff team since they went to Baltimore...

    now there's a thought..!!

  • G gmp

    I've said this before...The only way this team will ever get any better is if the NFL itself takes over the team..year after year, the management of this team rolls out a 4-12 / 5-11 team. The NFL can't even put this team on national TV anymore.....This franchise is killing the NFL brand. If you go back and look at the win/losses since the browns came back in 1999/2000 this franchise has had 2 year of playing over 500....not playoff contenders..just over 500..2 years in over 15 years?.....

    Maybe this team needs to move again...LA perhaps?....

    look at how relevant the Ravens have been since the Browns moved there..perennial playoff team since they went to Baltimore...

    now there's a thought..!!

    @gmp said:

    I've said this before...The only way this team will ever get any better is if the NFL itself takes over the team..year after year, the management of this team rolls out a 4-12 / 5-11 team. The NFL can't even put this team on national TV anymore.....This franchise is killing the NFL brand. If you go back and look at the win/losses since the browns came back in 1999/2000 this franchise has had 2 year of playing over 500....not playoff contenders..just over 500..2 years in over 15 years?.....

    Maybe this team needs to move again...LA perhaps?....

    look at how relevant the Ravens have been since the Browns moved there..perennial playoff team since they went to Baltimore...

    now there's a thought..!!

    No, gobble my pecker, it's not.

    WSS

  • Browns Board decoder ring, Steve?

  • Browns Board decoder ring, Steve?

    @tour2ma said:

    Browns Board decoder ring, Steve?

    or "grab my pud."

    🙂

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    Browns Board decoder ring, Steve?

    or "grab my pud."

    🙂

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    or "grab my pud."

    🙂

    WSS

    Well,

    if that's you WUSS in the picture..I can see why you need somebody to grab your pud...probably don't happen all too often!

  • G gmp

    @westside-steve said:

    or "grab my pud."

    🙂

    WSS

    Well,

    if that's you WUSS in the picture..I can see why you need somebody to grab your pud...probably don't happen all too often!

    @gmp said:

    Well,

    if that's you WUSS in the picture..I can see why you need somebody to grab your pud...probably don't happen all too often!

    Who the fuck else would it be?

    By the way it happens every day even if I have to do it myself!

    WSS

  • @gmp said:

    Well,

    if that's you WUSS in the picture..I can see why you need somebody to grab your pud...probably don't happen all too often!

    Who the fuck else would it be?

    By the way it happens every day even if I have to do it myself!

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Who the fuck else would it be?

    By the way it happens every day even if I have to do it myself!

    WSS

    Thanks for such a wonderful visual, wuss!

  • @gmp said:

    Well,

    if that's you WUSS in the picture..I can see why you need somebody to grab your pud...probably don't happen all too often!

    Who the fuck else would it be?

    By the way it happens every day even if I have to do it myself!

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    By the way it happens every day even if I have to do it myself!

    I was going to post, "lol... gave post a point as I did not see that coming," but on second thought...

  • Rosey palm is always reliable and gives you a cold one right after..

  • For the Browns to not be terrible, one potential first step is for the OLB's to not look like they're hailing a cab when they try (and inevitably fail) to make a tackle. Are they aware that using both hands is actually allowed - and, in some states, desirable?