Its time to Fire Pettine
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i can see my way to this for Pettine. Farmers list of ridiculous decisions is just to the point of ridiculous. His texting violating both NFL rules and any semblance of chain of command should have got him fired. Bowe is a $9 million dollar buddy to buddy abuse of power. Those two top a top ten list made for late night TV.
Here is the problem with the Browns:
1)When was the last time we gave our HC enough time without firing him? The last one was Romeo and he deserved it. We need to give them time to fully implement their schemes. Pettine has not been here long enough to allow that to happen.
2)The same goes for (our GM) Farmer. We should give them time to learn from their mistakes. Who's to say Farmer doesn't learn not to go after washed up players like Bowe. We are one of very few teams in the league that has a revolving door policy when it comes to GMs and HCs.
We will forever be known as a team that continues to get a new GM and HC. I say we give both the HC and GM about 5 years to show what they can do. If we are in the same boat, when we fire both of them. But 5 years minimum.
The texting thing was not a mistake. It was a clear indication of his narcissism and disregard for rules. It was also a blatant indication of his disrespect towards the HC.Here is the problem with the Browns:
1)When was the last time we gave our HC enough time without firing him? The last one was Romeo and he deserved it. We need to give them time to fully implement their schemes. Pettine has not been here long enough to allow that to happen.
2)The same goes for (our GM) Farmer. We should give them time to learn from their mistakes. Who's to say Farmer doesn't learn not to go after washed up players like Bowe. We are one of very few teams in the league that has a revolving door policy when it comes to GMs and HCs.
We will forever be known as a team that continues to get a new GM and HC. I say we give both the HC and GM about 5 years to show what they can do. If we are in the same boat, when we fire both of them. But 5 years minimum.
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We are comparing Mike Pettine to Chuck Knoll now?
For fucks sake...
We are comparing Mike Pettine to Chuck Knoll now?
For fucks sake...
Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
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I totally agree with the above 2 posts. Maybe though, we go back in time & suggest the Steelers fire Chuck Noll after 1-13, 5-9 & 6-8 seasons or the 49ers fire Bill Walsh after 2-14 & 6-10 seasons. PATIENCE people, PATIENCE. The key is that they learn OJT. I'm willing to wait & see what happens.Hell, at my age, I should be one of the biggest basket cases on this board but I don't plan on kickin' the bucket anytime soon, so they have some time left to bring me a Super Bowl.
Mike
I'm not saying fire petine, but the above coaches you stated at least showed progress each year. we'll see what happens the rest of the season, but we need to see progress each year. just my opinion of course
I'm not saying fire petine, but the above coaches you stated at least showed progress each year. we'll see what happens the rest of the season, but we need to see progress each year. just my opinion of course
I saved this as I expected at least one response like yours. After Bill Walsh's 1st 2 seasons I mentioned, he went 13-3, then 3-6 & they still didn't fire him. Consistent winning patterns don't usually happen overnight.
Walter, I won't even dignify your inane statements with a response beyond this... What grade are you in?
Mike
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We are comparing Mike Pettine to Chuck Knoll now?
For fucks sake...
Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
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Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
See, you're all about extremes. It's either 'fire all the everything' or you're incredibly condescending with the opposite. There's no middle ground, which is where a bulk of the truth in things are found.
As for the 'back in my day' - You just assume I'm much older (if at all) because I'm level headed. You couldn't be more wrong.
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I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
See, you're all about extremes. It's either 'fire all the everything' or you're incredibly condescending with the opposite. There's no middle ground, which is where a bulk of the truth in things are found.
As for the 'back in my day' - You just assume I'm much older (if at all) because I'm level headed. You couldn't be more wrong.
See, you're all about extremes. It's either 'fire all the everything' or you're incredibly condescending with the opposite. There's no middle ground, which is where a bulk of the truth in things are found.
As for the 'back in my day' - You just assume I'm much older (if at all) because I'm level headed. You couldn't be more wrong.
It's just bullshit after bullshit.
These players have no fire, no passion, no heart, no guts, and zero accountability.
Where the fuck is Justin Gilbert? Isn't he Pettines hand picked guy?
Where is Bowe? Why is Haden all the sudden so awful? So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Why do we let talent slip away to other teams? (Tj Ward, Jordan Cameron, Jabaal Sheard, Dion Lewis, etc)
I'm just sick of the fucking excuses from the same passive aggressive assholes.
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Walter - give your emotional outbursts a rest. Learn to have a sense of humor
about SOMETHING.
Maybe Gilbert and Bowe aren't smart enough to learn the offense or something.
And Joe Haden? He had a rib injury on the first play, and tried to keep playing.
I'd say that's pretty freakin heroic and pretty damn nice cb play for having
a rib injury.
Every single game - the players are playing with fire - maybe too much.
Calling for the hc to be fired when the hc isn't any kind of reason
the players are struggling a good bit the first three games...
a LOT of teams have been struggling. The Bears...Dolphins...Saints....
Right now, you have been throwing a temper tantrum, like you think that is going to
change things and you will get a lollipop after all in a store.
Stop acting like the Tazmanian devil already in the cartoon.
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1-2 Step away from the ledge.
I agree with those who say, start Manziel to find out what needs or not need to be done concerning the QB position in 2016. Looks like the Bills pushed freakin Tyrod Taylor into the deep end and so far he doesnt seem overwhelmed.
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Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
Don't you love Manziel?
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See, you're all about extremes. It's either 'fire all the everything' or you're incredibly condescending with the opposite. There's no middle ground, which is where a bulk of the truth in things are found.
As for the 'back in my day' - You just assume I'm much older (if at all) because I'm level headed. You couldn't be more wrong.
It's just bullshit after bullshit.
These players have no fire, no passion, no heart, no guts, and zero accountability.
Where the fuck is Justin Gilbert? Isn't he Pettines hand picked guy?
Where is Bowe? Why is Haden all the sudden so awful? So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Why do we let talent slip away to other teams? (Tj Ward, Jordan Cameron, Jabaal Sheard, Dion Lewis, etc)
I'm just sick of the fucking excuses from the same passive aggressive assholes.
Your points in this case are pretty on point (not often the case) Your method of communicating points teeters between need for counseling and full psychotic break.It's just bullshit after bullshit.
These players have no fire, no passion, no heart, no guts, and zero accountability.
Where the fuck is Justin Gilbert? Isn't he Pettines hand picked guy?
Where is Bowe? Why is Haden all the sudden so awful? So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Why do we let talent slip away to other teams? (Tj Ward, Jordan Cameron, Jabaal Sheard, Dion Lewis, etc)
I'm just sick of the fucking excuses from the same passive aggressive assholes.
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Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
walter all we care about from where you are the nice food/brew shots coming from san francisco.
hello frisco:
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2:43 a.m.? Jesus mik I thought I was the worst sleeper on here.
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You pre-quoted yourself?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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2:43 a.m.? Jesus mik I thought I was the worst sleeper on here.
2:43 a.m.? Jesus mik I thought I was the worst sleeper on here.
finished up a 6 day 'favor' for my best friends's son which consisted of moving his whole 3 bedroom 3rd floor apartment 100 yards down the street to his new 3 bedroom 2nd floor apartment.
"don't have much stuff....just 3 or 4 pieces.....etc. etc.". didn't want to hire a moving company because the locations were so close and he had me and his father to help him. his father is on disability with back probs and the kid played OL in HS and his knees are shot, so guess who carried every fucking thing? yes, me.
so i did a much deserved all-nighter. now i'm feeling it. feels like i went 10 rounds with holyfield.
favors are great when you're on the receiving end. seems like i never am though.
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See, you're all about extremes. It's either 'fire all the everything' or you're incredibly condescending with the opposite. There's no middle ground, which is where a bulk of the truth in things are found.
As for the 'back in my day' - You just assume I'm much older (if at all) because I'm level headed. You couldn't be more wrong.
It's just bullshit after bullshit.
These players have no fire, no passion, no heart, no guts, and zero accountability.
Where the fuck is Justin Gilbert? Isn't he Pettines hand picked guy?
Where is Bowe? Why is Haden all the sudden so awful? So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Why do we let talent slip away to other teams? (Tj Ward, Jordan Cameron, Jabaal Sheard, Dion Lewis, etc)
I'm just sick of the fucking excuses from the same passive aggressive assholes.
So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
and the lack to find a rb in the last 10 years who can break through the first line of defense and challenge into the secondary. fuckin fingertip tackles from opposing Ds are taking these guys down.
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Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
and the lack to find a rb in the last 10 years who can break through the first line of defense and challenge into the secondary. fuckin fingertip tackles from opposing Ds are taking these guys down.
and the lack to find a rb in the last 10 years who can break through the first line of defense and challenge into the secondary. fuckin fingertip tackles from opposing Ds are taking these guys down.
So you think Farmer might try to get this guy in 2017?
http://www.tmz.com/2015/09/30/herschel-walker-leonard-fournette-is-better-than-i-was/
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