Pick your QB
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This week or forever?
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I would say from now until the end of the season.
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I want to say Austin Davis, as I'm very curious about him. I have a feeling he's our best option at the position.
But if he's actually not noticeably better than either Johnny or Josh in that game, then I'd want to see Manziel for the rest of the season. Give him a chance to show that he can play and improve.
I don't want to throw the season. Davis would be as close as we can come to a last-ditch effort not to.
But if the team isn't going to be any good (which is what it looks like) then SOMETHING needs to come of it. Either the knowledge that Manziel isn't our guy so we can move on... Or being able to see the potential we thought we were getting when he was drafted.
Either way, I have no interest in seeing Josh McCown as the QB. His ceiling is lower than Manziel's... and his floor isn't appreciably higher. And I don't see a winning season for the Browns with him as the go-to guy.
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I want to see whoever our coaches think gives us the best chance to win. How can anyone want to see anyone different? Everyone keeps saying we have to see if Manziel can be the QB of the future, I think the front office already knows. McCown should play the rest of the year, and back to the drawing board we go after the year.
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If Josh can't win then at some point soon thereafter the other JM must be given the team.
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San Diego sports talk are expecting to crush us. I hate San Diego
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Have we seen enough of Manziel to rule him out as the guy for the future? I don't think so. At this point I want to see. J Mac is in his late thirties. He's not the guy for the future. The best chance to win now is J Mac? Win what, eight games at best? Play JM for the remainder of the season and see if we need to draft again next year.
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I still don't understand why Manziel is not the starter either. We know who McCown is but we don't know if we have our franchise on the bench or do we draft Cook or Goff next year. Seems simple to me. Play Manziel now. What is the waiting accomplishing? Unless they're planning a trade with Saints or Cowboys. That could explain keeping Manziel on the bench.
Either way, the Fans have been screwed again.
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I still don't understand why Manziel is not the starter either. We know who McCown is but we don't know if we have our franchise on the bench or do we draft Cook or Goff next year. Seems simple to me. Play Manziel now. What is the waiting accomplishing? Unless they're planning a trade with Saints or Cowboys. That could explain keeping Manziel on the bench.
Either way, the Fans have been screwed again.
What does it matter what we know? Ever wonder what the coaches know? Theres a reason McCown is starting despite all the negative attention its bringing.I still don't understand why Manziel is not the starter either. We know who McCown is but we don't know if we have our franchise on the bench or do we draft Cook or Goff next year. Seems simple to me. Play Manziel now. What is the waiting accomplishing? Unless they're planning a trade with Saints or Cowboys. That could explain keeping Manziel on the bench.
Either way, the Fans have been screwed again.
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Johnny . . . If I thought McCown had a shot at doing anything this season it might be different. But with no running game / defense he's Hoyer 2.0.
The best thing for this franchise would be for haslam to put some unbreakable clause in Pettine's contract that he will be here next year. Maybe he would be more open to playing Johnny instead of a 36 year old who's not gonna take this franchise anywhere. Let Manziel get his lumps in this season . . . hopefully he shows good progress along with his mistakes.
Then next season hopefully we get a Gordon who actually plays and can get Benjamin to resign and we can bring in another playmaker or two and our offense could have a legit chance at doing something.
Who knows if any of that will come to fruition, but the first step in that process is knowing what we have in Johnny, and him having some Sunday experience. If he completely shits the bed then at least we know where we're at, and next season won't be another year of QB ?'s . . . Unless they're already planning on grabbing another QB . . . Nothing surprises me anymore.
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Wow! If the stadium is anywhere near this poll (3 to 1 for Manziel over Josh right now), then the first screwup by Josh will bring a massive BOOOOOOO! 🥷 :ph34r:
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I'm glad nobody voted for the non-existant "Conner Shaw".
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The only person whose opinion counts is Mike Pettine.
I am kind of forced to go with whomever he chooses. Fair to say?
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The team needs to win for McCown to keep his job. How much longer can we go saying Manziel has the only W as a starter this year? I'd say, if McCown doesn't look impressive in the next 2 games, then you better see Johnny by the next home game or that crowd is going to get nasty...
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I want to see whoever our coaches think gives us the best chance to win. How can anyone want to see anyone different? Everyone keeps saying we have to see if Manziel can be the QB of the future, I think the front office already knows. McCown should play the rest of the year, and back to the drawing board we go after the year.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I want to see whoever our coaches think gives us the best chance to win. How can anyone want to see anyone different? Everyone keeps saying we have to see if Manziel can be the QB of the future, I think the front office already knows. McCown should play the rest of the year, and back to the drawing board we go after the year.
Suppose McCown gives us the best chance to win this year (which the evidence thus far suggests he does not as our only win is with Manziel). What about next year? Does he give us the best chance to win then? How about the year after that? I would take 6 wins this year with Manziel over 8 wins with McCown. Why? Because McCown isn't getting any better, but Manziel, if he continues to win, will lead us to more wins every year he gets better. Going with McCown is a short-sighted decision.
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I'm glad nobody voted for the non-existant "Conner Shaw".
I'm glad nobody voted for the non-existant "Conner Shaw".
I just voted for Conner Shaw.
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Or maybe l just like the Spice Girls.
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Now, don't get me wrong. I am all on board for seeing what we have in our 1st round pick. But I also want to win some football games.
Listening to all these fans boasting and chanting for Johnny to be put on the field is driving me crazy! I must not have been watching the same game in week 2 as everyone else. I keep hearing "played a great game" "he did really good" "he showed improvement". I only agree with one of those.
For all those that are up his A$$, look at the stats really quick.
Manziel week 2 - 8/15 172 yds 2 TDs
McCown week 3 - 28/49 341 yds 2 TDs 1 Int
Other than the INT it looks pretty much the same to me right? A lot more passing attempts..hmm another stat.
week 2 combined rush yds 116...not bad
week 3 combined rush yds 39...yeah that's right
Bottom line, Manziel didn't play a good game, the entire team played a good enough game to win.
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