Its time to Fire Pettine
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Every bit as logical as some of your posts.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
I totally apologize.
Mike Pettine has done wonders and his decision to start the savy toughened vet payed off Sunday.
I'm sorry I'm not a "real Browns fan" and at the age of 28 not able to understand what it was like "in your day" with the The Kardiac Kids.
We just need to give Pettine and Famer a solid 5 years more of McCowns, Tates, Wests, Gilberts, Houslers, Bowe's, and Mayles.
We just need to give Pettine more time so the players won't look like lackadaisical assholes on Sundays.
walter all we care about from where you are the nice food/brew shots coming from san francisco.
hello frisco:
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2:43 a.m.? Jesus mik I thought I was the worst sleeper on here.

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2:43 a.m.? Jesus mik I thought I was the worst sleeper on here.

2:43 a.m.? Jesus mik I thought I was the worst sleeper on here.

finished up a 6 day 'favor' for my best friends's son which consisted of moving his whole 3 bedroom 3rd floor apartment 100 yards down the street to his new 3 bedroom 2nd floor apartment.
"don't have much stuff....just 3 or 4 pieces.....etc. etc.". didn't want to hire a moving company because the locations were so close and he had me and his father to help him. his father is on disability with back probs and the kid played OL in HS and his knees are shot, so guess who carried every fucking thing? yes, me.
so i did a much deserved all-nighter. now i'm feeling it. feels like i went 10 rounds with holyfield.
favors are great when you're on the receiving end. seems like i never am though.
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See, you're all about extremes. It's either 'fire all the everything' or you're incredibly condescending with the opposite. There's no middle ground, which is where a bulk of the truth in things are found.
As for the 'back in my day' - You just assume I'm much older (if at all) because I'm level headed. You couldn't be more wrong.
It's just bullshit after bullshit.
These players have no fire, no passion, no heart, no guts, and zero accountability.
Where the fuck is Justin Gilbert? Isn't he Pettines hand picked guy?
Where is Bowe? Why is Haden all the sudden so awful? So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Why do we let talent slip away to other teams? (Tj Ward, Jordan Cameron, Jabaal Sheard, Dion Lewis, etc)
I'm just sick of the fucking excuses from the same passive aggressive assholes.
So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
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So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
and the lack to find a rb in the last 10 years who can break through the first line of defense and challenge into the secondary. fuckin fingertip tackles from opposing Ds are taking these guys down.
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Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
and the lack to find a rb in the last 10 years who can break through the first line of defense and challenge into the secondary. fuckin fingertip tackles from opposing Ds are taking these guys down.
and the lack to find a rb in the last 10 years who can break through the first line of defense and challenge into the secondary. fuckin fingertip tackles from opposing Ds are taking these guys down.
So you think Farmer might try to get this guy in 2017?
http://www.tmz.com/2015/09/30/herschel-walker-leonard-fournette-is-better-than-i-was/
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i'm still not seeing a whole lot of you get the fact that we're stuck with Pettine even if we found out he liked to watch little boys bathe themselves. It just doesn't matter. We can't fire another coach for years. Nobody's coming here until ownership shows a willingness to stick with one coach one system yada yada we've been over this before.
Personally i'm sick and fucking tired of having a new coach every two years and the fan base says look at all that talent we've got, the last guy couldn't do shit with them so wut are you gonna do? Some of the guys on this team are in their 3rd system in 4 years. Enough of this shit. For gods sake it's like some Browns fans want this team to suck, but not just any suck...brand new suck. Yup, every year its a brand new suck we have to experience it seems like.
Please enough of this. I'm "BEGGING" board mods to lock and delete every fucking thread about firing our coach. Lock, don't let into the digital troposphere. Don't let people come here and take the small sample size of browns fandom that is this place, and turn around and say aha these Cleveland fuckers they want another coach gone fuck them, fuck them right in the mouth. Just don't allow, especially not from board sociopaths like Walter who make posts at the political board talking of fondly dreaming of sniping dark skinned children from a belltower.
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So many high picks on the o-line and shit performance weekly.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
Uhh, you mean the Raiders game where Khalil Mack made him look like a goofy oaf footed HS tackle just out there to make his dad happy?
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I wonder what the divorce rate is like in Cleveland.
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Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
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Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
yeah but you can lose your taste for coaching here. Where's Mangnini? Where's Chud? Shurm? Romeo? How bout Davis? <----I really hated that fucker, one of the few Browns coaches I actually couldn't stand the sight of.
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Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
Where's Mangnini? Where's Chud? Shurm? Romeo? How bout Davis?
either all the losing in Cleveland cost them another chance or they were never HC material. But its a good answer for why no one else would want to coach here. Cleveland = end of the road for HCs
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i'm still not seeing a whole lot of you get the fact that we're stuck with Pettine even if we found out he liked to watch little boys bathe themselves. It just doesn't matter. We can't fire another coach for years. Nobody's coming here until ownership shows a willingness to stick with one coach one system yada yada we've been over this before.
Personally i'm sick and fucking tired of having a new coach every two years and the fan base says look at all that talent we've got, the last guy couldn't do shit with them so wut are you gonna do? Some of the guys on this team are in their 3rd system in 4 years. Enough of this shit. For gods sake it's like some Browns fans want this team to suck, but not just any suck...brand new suck. Yup, every year its a brand new suck we have to experience it seems like.
Please enough of this. I'm "BEGGING" board mods to lock and delete every fucking thread about firing our coach. Lock, don't let into the digital troposphere. Don't let people come here and take the small sample size of browns fandom that is this place, and turn around and say aha these Cleveland fuckers they want another coach gone fuck them, fuck them right in the mouth. Just don't allow, especially not from board sociopaths like Walter who make posts at the political board talking of fondly dreaming of sniping dark skinned children from a belltower.
i'm still not seeing a whole lot of you get the fact that we're stuck with Pettine even if we found out he liked to watch little boys bathe themselves. It just doesn't matter. We can't fire another coach for years. Nobody's coming here until ownership shows a willingness to stick with one coach one system yada yada we've been over this before.
Please enough of this. I'm "BEGGING" board mods to lock and delete every fucking thread about firing our coach. Lock, don't let into the digital troposphere. Don't let people come here and take the small sample size of browns fandom that is this place, and turn around and say aha these Cleveland fuckers they want another coach gone fuck them, fuck them right in the mouth. Just don't allow, especially not from board sociopaths like Walter who make posts at the political board talking of fondly dreaming of sniping dark skinned children from a belltower.
Cleve- One of the nice things about this board- you can start a topic on almost anything. (Short of pushing counterfeit made in China Browns stuff). I you don't like WW's spew- don't respond to it. It would take a flop of say 2-14 to get Pettine fired. We'll see how the rest of the season turns out- & if starting McCown over Johnny is a monumental mistake.
Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
Haslam is paying guys plenty not to coach.

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i'm still not seeing a whole lot of you get the fact that we're stuck with Pettine even if we found out he liked to watch little boys bathe themselves. It just doesn't matter. We can't fire another coach for years. Nobody's coming here until ownership shows a willingness to stick with one coach one system yada yada we've been over this before.
Please enough of this. I'm "BEGGING" board mods to lock and delete every fucking thread about firing our coach. Lock, don't let into the digital troposphere. Don't let people come here and take the small sample size of browns fandom that is this place, and turn around and say aha these Cleveland fuckers they want another coach gone fuck them, fuck them right in the mouth. Just don't allow, especially not from board sociopaths like Walter who make posts at the political board talking of fondly dreaming of sniping dark skinned children from a belltower.
Cleve- One of the nice things about this board- you can start a topic on almost anything. (Short of pushing counterfeit made in China Browns stuff). I you don't like WW's spew- don't respond to it. It would take a flop of say 2-14 to get Pettine fired. We'll see how the rest of the season turns out- & if starting McCown over Johnny is a monumental mistake.
Why wouldn't a coach want to come here? They get there pay whether they are coaching or not.
Haslam is paying guys plenty not to coach.

Cleve- One of the nice things about this board- you can start a topic on almost anything. (Short of pushing counterfeit made in China Browns stuff). I you don't like WW's spew- don't respond to it. It would take a flop of say 2-14 to get Pettine fired. We'll see how the rest of the season turns out- & if starting McCown over Johnny is a monumental mistake.
Haslam is paying guys plenty not to coach.

yeah but Hoorta even 2 wins can't get him fired. Seriously. The long term damage to this franchise would be irreparable.
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Objectively wrong.
The line is NOT the problem. Whatever the problem is on offense... and obviously I'm not disputing that the O sucks... but it's not the line's fault.
Schwartz is a top5 RT in the league and arguably outperformed Thomas last game. The weakest link, yet still with a net positive performance, is Mack.
Uhh, you mean the Raiders game where Khalil Mack made him look like a goofy oaf footed HS tackle just out there to make his dad happy?
Uhh, you mean the Raiders game where Khalil Mack made him look like a goofy oaf footed HS tackle just out there to make his dad happy?
I must have missed that game. The one I watched Sunday Mack beat Schwartz twice all game... a spin move for a sack and a bull rush for a pressure.
Both beats were in the 4th Qtr though so maybe a case of "what have you done for me lately"?
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Uhh, you mean the Raiders game where Khalil Mack made him look like a goofy oaf footed HS tackle just out there to make his dad happy?
I must have missed that game. The one I watched Sunday Mack beat Schwartz twice all game... a spin move for a sack and a bull rush for a pressure.
Both beats were in the 4th Qtr though so maybe a case of "what have you done for me lately"?
I must have missed that game. The one I watched Sunday Mack beat Schwartz twice all game... a spin move for a sack and a bull rush for a pressure.
Both beats were in the 4th Qtr though so maybe a case of "what have you done for me lately"?
I saw Mack around the QB and in the backfield all day. He was the main disruptor of everything we tried to do. His stats for the game are good enough on their face, but they don't do justice to his overall impact on the game. We were trying to go away from him on every play. I lost count how many replays of a pass from McCown were shown where Mack didn't get there in time to disrupt the throw but you could clearly see him beating his lineman like a govt mule. So McCown holds the ball a split second later and he's down. Mack was doing that all day. Offenses compensate for a guy like that by telling the QB 2 seconds and the ball is out asshole. I mean every replay we were looking up going fuck is that 52 again? He was just near the ball on every play, and that's what playmakers do.
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I must have missed that game. The one I watched Sunday Mack beat Schwartz twice all game... a spin move for a sack and a bull rush for a pressure.
Both beats were in the 4th Qtr though so maybe a case of "what have you done for me lately"?
I saw Mack around the QB and in the backfield all day. He was the main disruptor of everything we tried to do. His stats for the game are good enough on their face, but they don't do justice to his overall impact on the game. We were trying to go away from him on every play. I lost count how many replays of a pass from McCown were shown where Mack didn't get there in time to disrupt the throw but you could clearly see him beating his lineman like a govt mule. So McCown holds the ball a split second later and he's down. Mack was doing that all day. Offenses compensate for a guy like that by telling the QB 2 seconds and the ball is out asshole. I mean every replay we were looking up going fuck is that 52 again? He was just near the ball on every play, and that's what playmakers do.
I saw Mack around the QB and in the backfield all day. He was the main disruptor of everything we tried to do. His stats for the game are good enough on their face, but they don't do justice to his overall impact on the game. We were trying to go away from him on every play. I lost count how many replays of a pass from McCown were shown where Mack didn't get there in time to disrupt the throw but you could clearly see him beating his lineman like a govt mule. So McCown holds the ball a split second later and he's down. Mack was doing that all day. Offenses compensate for a guy like that by telling the QB 2 seconds and the ball is out asshole. I mean every replay we were looking up going fuck is that 52 again? He was just near the ball on every play, and that's what playmakers do.
Could all be factual... it's not, but for the sake of argument, let's say it is... and still does not equate to: "Khalil Mack made (Schwartz) look like a goofy oaf footed HS tackle just out there to make his dad happy?"
If you're going to make a case, then you have to stick to it and not change it.
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