***Official Browns @ Chargers Game Day Thread***
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Well since there are no positive comments here....
Duke Johnson looks good today. Breakout game so far. Benjamin still reliable.
Not too many positives with the defense other than Desir playing pretty well. Still no pass rush outside of the first two series. Kruger has only 2 moves.. bull rush or trying to beat defender around the edge. Neither has worked all season...
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They're not showing the Browns game here in Columbus. So I have to watch it on the NFL Redzone channel. Unfortunately, they aren't showing much of it. Has McCown thrown any interceptions in the game? I see the score is tied at halftime.
They're not showing the Browns game here in Columbus. So I have to watch it on the NFL Redzone channel. Unfortunately, they aren't showing much of it. Has McCown thrown any interceptions in the game? I see the score is tied at halftime.
One fumble and he is standing in the pocket too long on most plays. Playing as well as one would expect him to though..
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Duke definitely looks great today. Hats off to him.
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Browns have looked ok, not good, not bad.
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Don't get the boner over Johnson, Crow seems like a tough fast back
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Maybe because you're basing it on one catch? Crow's been bad all year. If he put a whole season together, he would be my favorite player.
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Red zone execution and maybe calls leave a lot to be desired.
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Maybe because you're basing it on one catch? Crow's been bad all year. If he put a whole season together, he would be my favorite player.
Maybe because you're basing it on one catch? Crow's been bad all year. If he put a whole season together, he would be my favorite player.
Crow averaged 4.1 a carry with 8 TDs last season behind the line that kept Manziel from being Montana. O line play has been poor this year but my original point is the organization seems to talk about Johnson as if he is Tomlinson and while I like his pass catching and speed in space he doesn't seem like that 5'9 210 frame will hold up.
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The more and more I watch this team I think the problem is all in scheme and play-calling. Blitzes never get to the QB, plays are scripted on offense. That TD Rivers just threw was common fucking sense based on an obvious scheme.
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our d is trash, but that was a nice sack
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Maybe because you're basing it on one catch? Crow's been bad all year. If he put a whole season together, he would be my favorite player.
Crow averaged 4.1 a carry with 8 TDs last season behind the line that kept Manziel from being Montana. O line play has been poor this year but my original point is the organization seems to talk about Johnson as if he is Tomlinson and while I like his pass catching and speed in space he doesn't seem like that 5'9 210 frame will hold up.
Crow averaged 4.1 a carry with 8 TDs last season behind the line that kept Manziel from being Montana. O line play has been poor this year but my original point is the organization seems to talk about Johnson as if he is Tomlinson and while I like his pass catching and speed in space he doesn't seem like that 5'9 210 frame will hold up.
Ok last year is last year. I don't think anyone here was displeased with Isaiah last year. And certainly no one has called DJ the next LT.
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OLine play has NOT been terrible - go read all of Tour's threads. Schwartz is a top 10, arguably top5 RT in the league. Lowest graded OL has actually been Mack.
The problem is the overall scheme and the playcalling.. ZBS is just not as usable as it was in the past.
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I'm 100% convinced I could a pen in my dog's mouth and call a better defensive scheme than O'Neill. Defense should be ABSOLUTELY embarrassed. The Chargers literally have two healthy WR's and three rookie OL and we get this garbage.
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15 years later and the browns still can't defend screen passes and short crossing routes... Should be a prerequisite to a coaching position...
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OLine play has NOT been terrible - go read all of Tour's threads. Schwartz is a top 10, arguably top5 RT in the league. Lowest graded OL has actually been Mack.
The problem is the overall scheme and the playcalling.. ZBS is just not as usable as it was in the past.
OLine play has NOT been terrible - go read all of Tour's threads. Schwartz is a top 10, arguably top5 RT in the league. Lowest graded OL has actually been Mack.
The problem is the overall scheme and the playcalling.. ZBS is just not as usable as it was in the past.
Didn't say terrible, said poor, and even Tour would admit PFF had the O Line graded lower than he did and Football Outsider had them ranked 27th Run, 29th Pass. I've watched every game and the O line has struggled because all it takes is one guy breaking down to kill the play. Not sure how Tour scores it but both Mack and Bitonio (I believe) whiffed on the screen block. Bitonio has a false start, as does Thomas. Mack has a holding penalty and those are just off the top of my head.
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