Marcus Mariota is Terrible
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Are you folks serious?
After 3 games he's thrown for 833 yards, 8 TD and 2 INT (one was bounced off of his TE's chest).
That's 277 yards and 2 TD a game.
It amazes me how POOR some of us Brown's fans evaluate QBs. Fock'n piss poor. No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.
Are you folks serious?
After 3 games he's thrown for 833 yards, 8 TD and 2 INT (one was bounced off of his TE's chest).
That's 277 yards and 2 TD a game.
It amazes me how POOR some of us Brown's fans evaluate QBs. Fock'n piss poor. No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.
The stats through RG3's first three games arent a hell of a lot further off from Mariota's.
I still stand by my assessment that Mariota won't be some pro bowl QB with longevity. Only time will tell.
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Thanks for taking the time, TC...
Mechanics and arm strength sure... easy to see... not easy to get agreement upon. Can't count the number of release debates I was in over Wheezy.
Just yesterday an analyst (might have been Phil Savage) talked about Brandon's baseball background and concerns about getting the wind up out of his football throwing motion... but I digress.
Really agree on the feet... provides insight not only into throwing fundamentals, but also pocket presence.
With "look to the sideline" becoming so prevalent pre-snap is going away. Last obvious example of a QB having the Pre-snap "it" that I can recall was Luck at Stanford.
Reads/ progression... without an all-22 can be hard, at least for me to evaluate. Head motion can't detect reads missed.
I think I'll just focus on linemen...
I think I'll just focus on linemen...
Ha!.....I avoid QB's myself......
That's where the "look for minuses rather than plusses" thing comes in. It's easier to see when a guy IS in a rapid-fire, single read offense than when he isn't.
Agree.....for me, at least, it's definitely easier to find the QB bad spots than the good ones.......so, while I can rarely guess who's gonna be good, I have a decent hit percentage on who's not......
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Are you folks serious?
After 3 games he's thrown for 833 yards, 8 TD and 2 INT (one was bounced off of his TE's chest).
That's 277 yards and 2 TD a game.
It amazes me how POOR some of us Brown's fans evaluate QBs. Fock'n piss poor. No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.
The stats through RG3's first three games arent a hell of a lot further off from Mariota's.
I still stand by my assessment that Mariota won't be some pro bowl QB with longevity. Only time will tell.
The stats through RG3's first three games arent a hell of a lot further off from Mariota's.
I still stand by my assessment that Mariota won't be some pro bowl QB with longevity. Only time will tell.
Eh, no. Not really.
60 comp | 89 att | 747 yards | 67% | 4 TD | 1 INT | 103.5 Rat |
61 comp | 97 att | 833 yards | 62% | 8 TD | 2 INT | 109.2 Rat |
On paper, that's vaguely close, I guess. The difference is this:
33 carries | 198 yards | 3 TD
5 carries | 25 yards | 0 TD
RG3 was a hell of a player in his first year. He was also run into the ground because his athleticism was emphasized and exploited by the coaching staff, rather than harnessed and utilized properly.
- Before his first injury (concussion, Atlanta, Week 5), RG3 carried the ball an average of 10 times per game.
- Then, RG3 goes 8 more weeks, averaging 9 carries per game, until he's hit by Ngata and sprains his LCL.
- He sits out against us, and then is forced to play next week even though Dr. James Andrews doesn't clear him.
- He goes two more games, then tears his knee up in a non-contact injury, still rushing 13 times since his Baltimore knee injury.
Mariota is just as athletically talented as Griffin. Mariota runs a 4.5 40 to RG3's 4.4. Mariota averaged about 100 carries/season in Oregon, to RG3's 125/season. He can certainly rush if he wanted. However, he hasn't.
Many expected the Titans to utilize a read option offense, similar to what Mariota ran in college. Instead, they are refining his pocket skills. He's not asked to run the ball, he's asked to make reads and throw. And he's doing that, whereas Griffin failed when asked to do the same thing.
It's easy to make the comparison to RG3 at first glance, because it was crammed down your throat that they are the same QB. They are not...at all. It's not even close.
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Are you folks serious?
After 3 games he's thrown for 833 yards, 8 TD and 2 INT (one was bounced off of his TE's chest).
That's 277 yards and 2 TD a game.
It amazes me how POOR some of us Brown's fans evaluate QBs. Fock'n piss poor. No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.
No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.
You're a dummy
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No wonder the Browns never get it right. We got moron fans pushing for midget QB that can only play school yard football.
You're a dummy
You're a dummy
The lead cheerleader for drafting Manziel calls me a dummy. How fitting.
We could had Carr!
We could had Bridgewater!
We could had Mack!
We could had traded all our picks to get Mariotta, but NOOOOOO....we want to roll out WalterWhite's midget QB who can't see over opposing defenders and can't read defense.
Why don't you blow me Walter! Just blow me!
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MasterDog how about putting your mouth where your mouth is. If JM turns out to be the long missing Browns QB you can blow Walter on the 50 yd line.
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Not exactly my idea of half-time entertainment...
A&M was already co-ed when you were there? Right, Ag?
Not exactly my idea of half-time entertainment...
A&M was already co-ed when you were there? Right, Ag?
LOL! "In 1963, the A&M Board of Directors officially reversed their stance on admitting women.The wives and daughters of faculty, staff and students as well as female staff members were finally allowed to officially participate in undergraduate programs"
That was 2 years before my freshman year. A few years later they opened enrollment on an equal basis for all. My daughter is a 1999 graduate.
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. I have never been a Johnny fan boy but this post is just stupid. Have you watched Josh's attempts at the long ball?? Were you there to see Johnny dropping dimes on Benji? Actually leading receivers? Did he make some questionable throws? Absolutely but so do vets. I think if we let him throw 30 times in that game he puts up legendary stats. The ONLY thing horrible was ball security.13 for 24? Alright sure he is great, I love missing wide open touchdowns, and overthrowing our 6'5 TE, I especially love left handed throws!!
Besides the fact that you can't deny that he is always taking a bee line out of the pocket, he simply can't see.
. I have never been a Johnny fan boy but this post is just stupid. Have you watched Josh's attempts at the long ball?? Were you there to see Johnny dropping dimes on Benji? Actually leading receivers? Did he make some questionable throws? Absolutely but so do vets. I think if we let him throw 30 times in that game he puts up legendary stats. The ONLY thing horrible was ball security.
Woah Buddy, That post was 2 weeks ago. after Johnnys abysmal game against the Jets. If you looked around on here you would find my post about Johnny being very good against TEN.
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TC, what's your opinion, firstly on Johnny? Boom or bust? Please elaborate. Second Cardale Jones, has he got the skill set to be a FQB or over hyped and over rated?
Was interested to read what you wrote about Jared Goff, I have been hopeful that if we find ourselves with the chance to take him before Jones (assuming rightly or wrongly we draft a qb high) that we do the right thing and take Goff. (obviously just my opinion)
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TC, what's your opinion, firstly on Johnny? Boom or bust? Please elaborate. Second Cardale Jones, has he got the skill set to be a FQB or over hyped and over rated?
Was interested to read what you wrote about Jared Goff, I have been hopeful that if we find ourselves with the chance to take him before Jones (assuming rightly or wrongly we draft a qb high) that we do the right thing and take Goff. (obviously just my opinion)
TC, what's your opinion, firstly on Johnny? Boom or bust? Please elaborate. Second Cardale Jones, has he got the skill set to be a FQB or over hyped and over rated?
Was interested to read what you wrote about Jared Goff, I have been hopeful that if we find ourselves with the chance to take him before Jones (assuming rightly or wrongly we draft a qb high) that we do the right thing and take Goff. (obviously just my opinion)
JM possesses all of the skills an NFL QB would need. If he were 4 inches taller, played in a pro system, and absolutely quiet off the field, he would have been an absolute lock at #1
Hell, if he were 6'5", 230, he would have been lumped up in discussion as top athletic prospect of all time.
Quick release, strong arm, drives intermediates with the best of them, large hands, elusive and mobile (which some people don't acknowledge as two different things but certainly are), high football intelligence.
Also smarmy, spoiled, small, and any other things you can think of that would make you want to punch him square in the face.
His fundamentals coming out of college weren't unfortunate, despite the "backyard" nature of play he was known for. Manziel was/is a good QB, he just needed development, size, maruration and a mental tightening of the screws to be a legitimate top end prospect. Luckily, three of those things can be fixed.
Personally, I love Cardale. Not as a prospect, just as a player and figure of entertainment. He's fun and just has a good time, which sometimes translates into his play in good ways. He's a developmental prospect, but he's physically almost perfect for the AFC North. He is also inaccurate when pressured and seemingly a simpleton when it comes to the technical aspects of playing the position. But I'll be damned if he can't throw it a country mile. His release isn't as slow as you anticipate it being, just based on size and style of play, but it's also nothing to write home about. Right now he's like a Byron Leftwich, with Cam Newton's personality, Kyle Boller's arm strength and Jay Cutler's maturation.
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Thanks ?
One last question.... Cardale or Barrett?
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No on Cardale. He's a bigger project than JM. He's played himself out of untold millions so far this season.
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Yes johnny is little small but keep in mind how many out right busts there are at 6 feet 5 inches and 230 pounds.
WSS
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