Philpin phired
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I've gone to probably 50 hours worth of his practices. He's a shy guy. No way this story's true.
That's who you want to lead your team ... a shy guy.
Isnt this year 4 for him? May need to pull the plug on him at the end of the year and blow this thing up.
Z
Zombo said:
That's who you want to lead your team ... a shy guy.
Isnt this year 4 for him? May need to pull the plug on him at the end of the year and blow this thing up.
Z
I didn't say it was a good quality. He blew 6 double digit halftime leads as a REDSHIRT SENIOR, MULTI-YEAR STARTING quarterback. Safe to say his leadership sucks.
Yes it's year 4. He has sucked this year but to be fair, PFF had him as a top 10 QB last year. OL has been brutally bad. But yes the lack of leadership will always hold him back.
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As opposed to the Browns who could blow it up right after their only win in 2015?
What?
We haven't even played a division game yet, Fuckwad, go root for Dallas.
Zombo
Zombo said:
What?
We haven't even played a division game yet, Fuckwad, go root for Dallas.
Zombo
I was referring to never using Manziel again. I prolly could have said "only win in 2015 so far"
And can't stand Dallas. Or Houston.
Been a Denver fan since living in Greeley and attending pre-season practices in the late 70's. My other team has an Aggie they actually use. Recovered a nice fumble to end it for them the other day.
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Zombo said:
What?
We haven't even played a division game yet, Fuckwad, go root for Dallas.
Zombo
I was referring to never using Manziel again. I prolly could have said "only win in 2015 so far"
And can't stand Dallas. Or Houston.
Been a Denver fan since living in Greeley and attending pre-season practices in the late 70's. My other team has an Aggie they actually use. Recovered a nice fumble to end it for them the other day.
I was referring to never using Manziel again. I prolly could have said "only win in 2015 so far"
And can't stand Dallas. Or Houston.
Been a Denver fan since living in Greeley and attending pre-season practices in the late 70's. My other team has an Aggie they actually use. Recovered a nice fumble to end it for them the other day.
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
McCown has thrown for 697 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT in the last two games.
We are clearly stupid for "never using Manziel again" even though McCown threw for more yards on Sunday than Manziel has in his career.
He's a project. We're being patient. He's making improvements. But we are starting the right guy if we are in the business of putting the best offense on the field on Sundays.
Zombo
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What? You don't believe in him now? Don't make me bump that thread.
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I was referring to never using Manziel again. I prolly could have said "only win in 2015 so far"
And can't stand Dallas. Or Houston.
Been a Denver fan since living in Greeley and attending pre-season practices in the late 70's. My other team has an Aggie they actually use. Recovered a nice fumble to end it for them the other day.
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
McCown has thrown for 697 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT in the last two games.
We are clearly stupid for "never using Manziel again" even though McCown threw for more yards on Sunday than Manziel has in his career.
He's a project. We're being patient. He's making improvements. But we are starting the right guy if we are in the business of putting the best offense on the field on Sundays.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
McCown has thrown for 697 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT in the last two games.
We are clearly stupid for "never using Manziel again" even though McCown threw for more yards on Sunday than Manziel has in his career.
He's a project. We're being patient. He's making improvements. But we are starting the right guy if we are in the business of putting he best offense on the field on Sundays.
Zombo
If I recall correctly, there was another NFL team that threw their A&M project QB in as a starter immediately.
I wonder how that fared.
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What? You don't believe in him now? Don't make me bump that thread.
"Believe in him?" That sounds gay. Yes, he impressed me when he started. And I HOPE he is the guy to take this franchise by the balls. And he WILL get that chance.
Bench McCown right now? No.
Browns fans with no agendas towards players or colleges must really confuse you.
Zombo
--are you only allowed to like one guy?
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Zombo said:
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
McCown has thrown for 697 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT in the last two games.
We are clearly stupid for "never using Manziel again" even though McCown threw for more yards on Sunday than Manziel has in his career.
He's a project. We're being patient. He's making improvements. But we are starting the right guy if we are in the business of putting he best offense on the field on Sundays.
Zombo
If I recall correctly, there was another NFL team that threw their A&M project QB in as a starter immediately.
I wonder how that fared.
If I recall correctly, there was another NFL team that threw their A&M project QB in as a starter immediately.
I wonder how that fared.
Not too well. Just got his coach fired. Sits in last place
Zombo
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What? You don't believe in him now? Don't make me bump that thread.
"Believe in him?" That sounds gay. Yes, he impressed me when he started. And I HOPE he is the guy to take this franchise by the balls. And he WILL get that chance.
Bench McCown right now? No.
Browns fans with no agendas towards players or colleges must really confuse you.
Zombo
--are you only allowed to like one guy?
Classic. Our opinion, even despite now being shared by you, is still just based on our agenda.Zombo said:
"Believe in him?" That sounds gay. Yes, he impressed me when he started. And I HOPE he is the guy to take this franchise by the balls. And he WILL get that chance.
Bench McCown right now? No.
Browns fans with no agendas towards players or colleges must really confuse you.
Zombo
--are you only allowed to like one guy?
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Exact quotes from our brilliant leader here:
"Prep time my dick."
*3 paragraphs later*
"Prep time my penis."
*8 days later*
"He's a project. We're being patient."
Let's not forget this one.
"You are pre qualifying everything. 'If Johnny starts please remember to be patient'...
Fuck You.
Motherfucking fuck you."
"He's a project. We're being patient."
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Classic. Our opinion, even despite now being shared by you, is still just based on our agenda.Zombo said:
"Believe in him?" That sounds gay. Yes, he impressed me when he started. And I HOPE he is the guy to take this franchise by the balls. And he WILL get that chance.
Bench McCown right now? No.
Browns fans with no agendas towards players or colleges must really confuse you.
Zombo
--are you only allowed to like one guy?
Classic. Our opinion, even despite now being shared by you, is still just based on our agenda.
I believe you used the phrase believe in him last week when you went on whatever alcohol-fueled binge of Retarded thoughts led to you advocating for Johnny for once, so spare me.
It wasn't alcohol fueled, it was a response you making pre-made excuses for him when he gets the nod.
"Oh the o-line" ..."Oh the running game" ... "Oh Cleveland is where QBs go to die"
Fuck that. Someone needs to put the end to this shit and I EXPECT that guy to be Manziel. He can do this, quit being pussies about him.
Right now the offense is clicking, McCown has his timing down with the receivers, and he is doing well.
We ride the 36 year old veteran for now ... the 22 year old first round pick WILL get his chance, so be fucking patient. Act like a Browns fan and not a Manziel dick licker.
If A. you are Browns fan and B. you watched the game this week ... then there is no reason in the world to be whining about Manziel this week.
He'll get his chance. It's not right now.
We've got MUCH bigger problems than QB right now, so lick his dick in private, no one cares right now.
Zombo
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The argument is not even about Manziel or McCown at this time. It is can we get this defense fixed? That is where our problem lies now. Manziel would not have won us that game or made any difference against the Chargers. Manziel doesn't play defense. That loss is on our defense or lack of it.
Our offense played well enough to win and put enough points on the board we should have won that game.
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Exact quotes from our brilliant leader here:
"Prep time my dick."
*3 paragraphs later*
"Prep time my penis."
*8 days later*
"He's a project. We're being patient."
Let's not forget this one.
"You are pre qualifying everything. 'If Johnny starts please remember to be patient'...
Fuck You.
Motherfucking fuck you."
"He's a project. We're being patient."
Exact quotes from our brilliant leader here:
"Prep time my dick."
*3 paragraphs later*
"Prep time my penis."
*8 days later*
"He's a project. We're being patient."
Let's not forget this one.
"You are pre qualifying everything. 'If Johnny starts please remember to be patient'...
Fuck You.
Motherfucking fuck you."
"He's a project. We're being patient."
I hate when you troll me, because you're not good at it.
You were using "prep time" (Again, sounds gay) as an excuse as to why Johnny may fail and you don't want me getting mad at him if he does.
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE EXCUSES. When he gets in there it is time roll, at that point will be deemed the better QB, and I expect to perform as good as, or better than McCown does now.
He's not in there now. There is no need to whine for him, defend him, pine away for him, or make excuses him this week. I feel the same way I felt about our backup QB this week as I did last week: Because he hasn't played since then, and he's not scheduled to play soon.
Why the fuck you have to defend him on a week where nothing has changed and McCown is doing fine ... tells me you are a dick licker.
Zombo
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The argument is not even about Manziel or McCown at this time. It is can we get this defense fixed? That is where our problem lies now. Manziel would not have won us that game or made any difference against the Chargers. Manziel doesn't play defense. That loss is on our defense or lack of it.
Our offense played well enough to win and put enough points on the board we should have won that game.
The argument is not even about Manziel or McCown at this time. It is can we get this defense fixed? That is where our problem lies now. Manziel would not have won us that game or made any difference against the Chargers. Manziel doesn't play defense. That loss is on our defense or lack of it.
Our offense played well enough to win and put enough points on the board we should have won that game.
Exactly.
Here is a Browns fan that does not have a penis in his mouth.
Zombo
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I was referring to never using Manziel again. I prolly could have said "only win in 2015 so far"
And can't stand Dallas. Or Houston.
Been a Denver fan since living in Greeley and attending pre-season practices in the late 70's. My other team has an Aggie they actually use. Recovered a nice fumble to end it for them the other day.
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
McCown has thrown for 697 yards 4 TDs and 1 INT in the last two games.
We are clearly stupid for "never using Manziel again" even though McCown threw for more yards on Sunday than Manziel has in his career.
He's a project. We're being patient. He's making improvements. But we are starting the right guy if we are in the business of putting the best offense on the field on Sundays.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
Actually, Z, every preference Ag has posted since the start of the season has been to start McCown and let JM learn. Even as much as he loved the Game 2 glimpses of JFF, he said McCown.
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Exact quotes from our brilliant leader here:
"Prep time my dick."
*3 paragraphs later*
"Prep time my penis."
*8 days later*
"He's a project. We're being patient."
Let's not forget this one.
"You are pre qualifying everything. 'If Johnny starts please remember to be patient'...
Fuck You.
Motherfucking fuck you."
"He's a project. We're being patient."
I hate when you troll me, because you're not good at it.
You were using "prep time" (Again, sounds gay) as an excuse as to why Johnny may fail and you don't want me getting mad at him if he does.
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE EXCUSES. When he gets in there it is time roll, at that point will be deemed the better QB, and I expect to perform as good as, or better than McCown does now.
He's not in there now. There is no need to whine for him, defend him, pine away for him, or make excuses him this week. I feel the same way I felt about our backup QB this week as I did last week: Because he hasn't played since then, and he's not scheduled to play soon.
Why the fuck you have to defend him on a week where nothing has changed and McCown is doing fine ... tells me you are a dick licker.
Zombo
Zombo said:
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE EXCUSES. When he gets in there it is time roll
He's not in there now. There is no need to whine for him, defend him, pine away for him, or make excuses him this week. I feel the same way I felt about our backup QB this week as I did last week: Because he hasn't played since then, and he's not scheduled to play soon.
Exactly....
It amazes me how much we have to hear about this guy....non stop.....its brutal really....
And what I notice is that the guys always defending him are actually causing most of the venom and/or push back without even realizing it......the constant counter point for every comment just opens the same revolving discussion weve been having for a year now.....
You talk about him, talk about him, talk about him, talk about him....then get push back(cause we are sick and tired of the talk talk talk part)....and when the push back happens, suddenly it's "why do you always talk bad about Johnny".....hahaha
I dont hate Johnny....never did....want him to do well(wish wish wish).....but I do hate the constant drone from all his supporters who have been pushing the Johnny agenda 24/7 for 15 months now..........non stop.....
Its completely exhausting.....and makes me like having him as a Brown.....less and less and less everyday.....
McCown is the QB.....he's playing well.....he's earned the right to be the starter.....the team isnt about "next year", its about now....
Time to give it a rest.....
This thread just shows how severe it is.....just like so many others, it turns from Philpin immediately to A&M then immediately to Johnny and here we are.....Miami Dolphins coach becomes Texas A&M Johnny////...
Its like a disease....
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Zombo said:
Ok, Denver fan. I get it, you are saying we screwed up by abandoning Johnny by going back to McCown.
Actually, Z, every preference Ag has posted since the start of the season has been to start McCown and let JM learn. Even as much as he loved the Game 2 glimpses of JFF, he said McCown.
Actually, Z, every preference Ag has posted since the start of the season has been to start McCown and let JM learn. Even as much as he loved the Game 2 glimpses of JFF, he said McCown.
That is correct. But after seeing all the opinions about Browns staff not being too keen on him because of the circus, my concern is they send him elsewhere on the high note of the one winning game. I don't trust Farmer's moves since the Mayle and Bowe fiascos and his whole attitude that supreme wr's are needless. We just missed out on two of the best, deepest wr classes in years. Whiffed is a good descriptor.
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Well... last time I defend you...
I don't put much stock in the whole "circus" thing... not this year anyway. Compared to last year this is not even half of a ring.
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Actually, Z, every preference Ag has posted since the start of the season has been to start McCown and let JM learn. Even as much as he loved the Game 2 glimpses of JFF, he said McCown.
That is correct. But after seeing all the opinions about Browns staff not being too keen on him because of the circus, my concern is they send him elsewhere on the high note of the one winning game. I don't trust Farmer's moves since the Mayle and Bowe fiascos and his whole attitude that supreme wr's are needless. We just missed out on two of the best, deepest wr classes in years. Whiffed is a good descriptor.
That is correct. But after seeing all the opinions about Browns staff not being too keen on him because of the circus, my concern is they send him elsewhere on the high note of the one winning game. I don't trust Farmer's moves since the Mayle and Bowe fiascos and his whole attitude that supreme wr's are needless. We just missed out on two of the best, deepest wr classes in years. Whiffed is a good descriptor.
There are six undefeated teams left in the NFL. What do they all have in common? (Hint: It's not 1st round WR's)
Atlanta, Denver and Cincinnati all have a very talented #1 WR - there's no denying that. Green, Jones and Thomas are great to transcendent talents that I would welcome with open arms.
However, the common denominator all of these teams have is "a great QB". Sure, WR's are important, but Brady, Rodgers and Cam are making due with the talent they have.
- The Panthers have what is widely regarded as the worst WR corps in the NFL, yet they are still undefeated.
- Rodgers lost one of his best WR's in 2nd round pick Jordy Nelson, replaced him with 31 year old 3rd round pick James Jones and didn't miss a beat.
- Brady's never had a truly stellar #1 WR, save for a Randy Moss at the end of his career. The Patriots have continuously cycled talent through their WR corps and still turn out on top.
I agree we whiffed on grabbing a WR...but that's not an indictment on Farmer's drafting ability so much as its an indication of the style of football we want to run. I'd rather be dependent on a great QB for success than a great WR for success. A great WR still relies on a QB getting him the ball.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
That is correct. But after seeing all the opinions about Browns staff not being too keen on him because of the circus, my concern is they send him elsewhere on the high note of the one winning game. I don't trust Farmer's moves since the Mayle and Bowe fiascos and his whole attitude that supreme wr's are needless. We just missed out on two of the best, deepest wr classes in years. Whiffed is a good descriptor.
There are six undefeated teams left in the NFL. What do they all have in common? (Hint: It's not 1st round WR's)
Atlanta, Denver and Cincinnati all have a very talented #1 WR - there's no denying that. Green, Jones and Thomas are great to transcendent talents that I would welcome with open arms.
However, the common denominator all of these teams have is "a great QB". Sure, WR's are important, but Brady, Rodgers and Cam are making due with the talent they have.
- The Panthers have what is widely regarded as the worst WR corps in the NFL, yet they are still undefeated.
- Rodgers lost one of his best WR's in 2nd round pick Jordy Nelson, replaced him with 31 year old 3rd round pick James Jones and didn't miss a beat.
- Brady's never had a truly stellar #1 WR, save for a Randy Moss at the end of his career. The Patriots have continuously cycled talent through their WR corps and still turn out on top.
I agree we whiffed on grabbing a WR...but that's not an indictment on Farmer's drafting ability so much as its an indication of the style of football we want to run. I'd rather be dependent on a great QB for success than a great WR for success. A great WR still relies on a QB getting him the ball.
There are six undefeated teams left in the NFL. What do they all have in common? (Hint: It's not 1st round WR's)
Atlanta, Denver and Cincinnati all have a very talented #1 WR - there's no denying that. Green, Jones and Thomas are great to transcendent talents that I would welcome with open arms.
However, the common denominator all of these teams have is "a great QB". Sure, WR's are important, but Brady, Rodgers and Cam are making due with the talent they have.
- The Panthers have what is widely regarded as the worst WR corps in the NFL, yet they are still undefeated.
- Rodgers lost one of his best WR's in 2nd round pick Jordy Nelson, replaced him with 31 year old 3rd round pick James Jones and didn't miss a beat.
- Brady's never had a truly stellar #1 WR, save for a Randy Moss at the end of his career. The Patriots have continuously cycled talent through their WR corps and still turn out on top.
I agree we whiffed on grabbing a WR...but that's not an indictment on Farmer's drafting ability so much as its an indication of the style of football we want to run. I'd rather be dependent on a great QB for success than a great WR for success. A great WR still relies on a QB getting him the ball.
I just don't get how many people don't see this man. It's so glaringly obvious that a franchise QB is the common denominator of essentially every great team past 2002.
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