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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    Just a note: Of the Top 10, 4 are Pac12, 3 or 4 are ACC (if you count ND as ACC). 1 is Big Ten. 1 is ACC. None for Big 12

    Of the bottom ten plus ties you have: 3 Pac12, 4 SEC, 4 Big 12, 1 ACC, none for Big Ten.

    It is all or nothing for Pac 12. 4 in Top 10, 3 in bottom 10. (and if we did bottom dozen...it would be 5 in bottom 12).

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      And WVU bringing up the rear.

      And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        These are pretty new.

        https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

        I'm sure something is sketchy here too

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

          And WVU bringing up the rear.

          And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @mld-woody said:

          And WVU bringing up the rear.

          And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

          To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            These are pretty new.

            https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

            I'm sure something is sketchy here too

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            These are pretty new.

            https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

            I'm sure something is sketchy here too

            Certainly could be. Where US News has Stanford #4 in the US....this has them #3 in the world. And I think it must be a British publication....as it seems that there are a lot of English schools given much higher rankings than most other polls of this sort have given them. Cambridge, Oxford, sure.

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              @mld-woody said:

              These are pretty new.

              https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

              I'm sure something is sketchy here too

              Certainly could be. Where US News has Stanford #4 in the US....this has them #3 in the world. And I think it must be a British publication....as it seems that there are a lot of English schools given much higher rankings than most other polls of this sort have given them. Cambridge, Oxford, sure.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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              @the-gipper said:

              Certainly could be. Where US News has Stanford #4 in the US....this has them #3 in the world. And I think it must be a British publication....as it seems that there are a lot of English schools given much higher rankings than most other polls of this sort have given them. Cambridge, Oxford, sure.

              The very top British schools are always highly ranked. I believe this ranking has ND and Dartmouth around 105 too, which doesn't seem right

              Also, in that ranking

              Big Ten Rankings

              21. Michigan

              25. Northwestern

              36. Illinois

              50. Wisconsin

              65. Minnesota

              75. PSU

              90. OSU

              99. MSU

              113. Purdue

              117. Maryland

              123. Rutgers

              201-250. Iowa, Indiana

              301-350. Nebraska

              .

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                @mld-woody said:

                And WVU bringing up the rear.

                And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

                To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

                It can give you a good idea at breaking schools into tiers, but it isn't perfect.

                One of the main knocks on the US News rankings is the emphasis on acceptance rate. There are ways in which schools can drive their acceptance rate artificially low to move up in the rankings. As an example, some schools send flyers to tons of high school kids. Even those with no chance of getting in. So that they can turn them away. Similarly, it is very easy to apply to all UC schools at once, even if you had no business going to Cal, UCLA, etc. These applications help them drive scores lower.

                Michigan had a pretty high acceptance rate overall because if the high ratio of in state kids. Additionally, there was a lot of self selection among applicants.

                Recently though, we've moved to the common app. This has been consistently driving our acceptance rates down over the past few years as more kids apply. The in state to out of state ratio is shifting too.

                I have noticed Michigan seems consistently higher ranked in World Rankings than it does in the US news rankings. I've seen them as high as #15 in the world before.

                Then, if you break it down by subject, they're all very high.

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

                  It can give you a good idea at breaking schools into tiers, but it isn't perfect.

                  One of the main knocks on the US News rankings is the emphasis on acceptance rate. There are ways in which schools can drive their acceptance rate artificially low to move up in the rankings. As an example, some schools send flyers to tons of high school kids. Even those with no chance of getting in. So that they can turn them away. Similarly, it is very easy to apply to all UC schools at once, even if you had no business going to Cal, UCLA, etc. These applications help them drive scores lower.

                  Michigan had a pretty high acceptance rate overall because if the high ratio of in state kids. Additionally, there was a lot of self selection among applicants.

                  Recently though, we've moved to the common app. This has been consistently driving our acceptance rates down over the past few years as more kids apply. The in state to out of state ratio is shifting too.

                  I have noticed Michigan seems consistently higher ranked in World Rankings than it does in the US news rankings. I've seen them as high as #15 in the world before.

                  Then, if you break it down by subject, they're all very high.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  It can give you a good idea at breaking schools into tiers, but it isn't perfect.

                  One of the main knocks on the US News rankings is the emphasis on acceptance rate. There are ways in which schools can drive their acceptance rate artificially low to move up in the rankings. As an example, some schools send flyers to tons of high school kids. Even those with no chance of getting in. So that they can turn them away. Similarly, it is very easy to apply to all UC schools at once, even if you had no business going to Cal, UCLA, etc. These applications help them drive scores lower.

                  Michigan had a pretty high acceptance rate overall because if the high ratio of in state kids. Additionally, there was a lot of self selection among applicants.

                  Recently though, we've moved to the common app. This has been consistently driving our acceptance rates down over the past few years as more kids apply. The in state to out of state ratio is shifting too.

                  I have noticed Michigan seems consistently higher ranked in World Rankings than it does in the US news rankings. I've seen them as high as #15 in the world before.

                  Then, if you break it down by subject, they're all very high.

                  All Well and Good....but just remember: Michigan sucks. 😉

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    Another

                    http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings?int=a27a09

                    Michigan #17

                    Northwestern #25

                    Wisconsin #26

                    Minnesota #29

                    Ohio State #34

                    Maryland #41

                    Illinois #43

                    Penn St. #57

                    Rutgers #60

                    Purdue #72

                    MSU #82

                    Indiana #109

                    Iowa #128

                    (ND #173)

                    Nebraska #244

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      My University, Tijuana Tech should be rated No. 1.

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