Thursday Night Football

Mudfly

@cvcanedy said:
So much has changed in a year.

Looks about the same to me.....this time last year we had only played one complete game, which was game 2 against the Saints....and our record was just one game better(due to a game that we played well for one half)....

so, if not for that one half of good football in Tenn, I see us right were we were last year.......3 bad games....1 good game...

@unsympathetic said:

Nothing wrong with liking Hoyer.

But that pick in that situation simply cannot happen.

Add in the reality that he's the worst possible teammate --

Mallett looked pretty pouty on the sidelines.....talk about mishandling a QB situation.....Obrien is creating a monster....

Mallett and Hoyer....arms folded - scouling - not talking.....kind of reminds me of Hoyer and Johnny last year....

Mark O

Why don't they not have any prime time games week 1 then for the following 16 games, every team gets one TNF game, one SNF game, and one MNF game.

Can someone translate this to english?

Unsympathetic

The issue of relatively better or worse is focused on the incorrect issue --- Obrien isn't creating anything that wasn't already there. Neither one of them is a starter. Someone has to start, yes, but that doesn't make them a solution.

Perhaps the Squeelers will give them a 7th for Mallett because he's better than QBDK at the backup position.. but neither of them are starters, regardless of their current contract.

Tour2ma

Had he not been hurt, I think Savage would be Houston's starter now. He was the project QB/long-term hope on their current roster.

I think Mallet was brought in to be the bridge (with possible starter upside) to Savage (or whomever) and Hoyer was to be "the veteran" backup.

But Savage is hurt and O'Brien has made Pet's mishandling of our 2014 QBs look like genius.

And as a bonus Romeo is trying to do the same for O'Neil...

Tim Couch Pulls Out

I feel bad for Bill O'Brien. I honestly like the guy. He just can't win for losing with either of those QB's and his team makes stupid mistakes.

Did you see him on the sideline when Kareem Jackson committed that absolutely dumb as fuck pass interference? Or when Hopkins threw the ball at the Colts defenders? He has a talented, immature team. He needs to let Watt slap the dogshit out of every single player out there.

cvcanedy

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I feel bad for Bill O'Brien. I honestly like the guy. He just can't win for losing with either of those QB's and his team makes stupid mistakes.

Did you see him on the sideline when Kareem Jackson committed that absolutely dumb as fuck pass interference? Or when Hopkins threw the ball at the Colts defenders? He has a talented, immature team. He needs to let Watt slap the dogshit out of every single player out there.

Yeah that was painful to watch when Hopkins threw the ball. Guys gonna get an ulcer.

bringbackbrownie2

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I don't know, I'd go out on a limb and say Mallet is a worse teammate.

Did you see him pouting like a big bitch after he got pulled?

My thoughts exactly. They kept showing him because he had such a bitchy attitude..

hoorta

@wargograw said:

I'll use this thread to make a point that's been on my mind.

Why don't they not have any prime time games week 1 then for the following 16 games, every team gets one TNF game, one SNF game, and one MNF game.

If the NFL is so concerned about fairness, they should make this happen.

Because it's all about RATINGS, not fairness. This is the Browns first Monday night game in years- because they've sucked in that time frame

jrb12711

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
My thoughts exactly. They kept showing him because he had such a bitchy attitude..

Mallett was playing a good game and just had to miss a couple plays because of an injury. I can't say I'd be a ray of sunshine if my coach pulled that on me either. You can play the "hot hand" at some positions but QB isn't one of them.

bbedward

@jrb12711 said:

Mallett was playing a good game and just had to miss a couple plays because of an injury. I can't say I'd be a ray of sunshine if my coach pulled that on me either. You can play the "hot hand" at some positions but QB isn't one of them.

I thought he was scoreless with an interception until Hoyer came in and started dropping dimes.

wargograw

@hoorta said:

Because it's all about RATINGS, not fairness. This is the Browns first Monday night game in years- because they've sucked in that time frame

I get it. But there's plenty of money that the league loses for the sake of fairness in other aspects.

Bob806

@wargograw said:

I'll use this thread to make a point that's been on my mind.

Why don't they not have any prime time games week 1 then for the following 16 games, every team gets one TNF game, one SNF game, and one MNF game.

If the NFL is so concerned about fairness, they should make this happen.

They're not concerned with fairness, they're only concerned with a few "core" teams like Green Bay, NE, Pittsburgh, the NFC East and Denver. Just watch all the pregame shows, these are the teams that get all the air time.

That being said, with the draft structure and salary cap, it shouldn't be hard to dig out of the doldrums and become a "core" team.

DieHardBrownsFan

Fairness? This is a money making business. They don't give a flying fuck about fairness.

Tour2ma

@hoorta said:
Because it's all about RATINGS, not fairness. This is the Browns first Monday night game in years- because they've sucked in that time frame

That plus now the Sunday broadcasters get to "freeze" games and keep them from moving to the prime time slots. I forget all the details but it came in under the "Flex scheduling" that started with the new TV contract last year(?). It's why now you'll see an all NFC game show up the CBS the AFC network and vice versa for Fox, the NFC network.

Bottom line MNF and TNF don't get pick of the litter anymore.

@bbedward said:
I thought he was scoreless with an interception until Hoyer came in and started dropping dimes.

Yes, it was scoreless when Mallet took himself out of the game. His first drive ended in an INT on a tipped ball that was high, hard and slightly behind Foster, but "should have been caught" per Daddy Sims.

Mallet is not only a goofball, but he has no touch.

wargograw

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Fairness? This is a money making business. They don't give a flying fuck about fairness.

They give plenty.

hoorta

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Fairness? This is a money making business. They don't give a flying fuck about fairness.

@wargograw said:
They give plenty.

Get real- like who is going to stay up late this year- short of a football junkie- to watch Tampa play Carolina on Sunday night?

wargograw

The SNF game this week is San Fran and the Giants. Last week it was Dallas and New Orleans. Both arguably worse games than the one you laid out. If fairness doesn't matter lets scrap the rules about the draft order, salary cap, waivers, etc.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@hoorta said:

Get real- like who is going to stay up late this year- short of a football junkie- to watch Tampa play Carolina on Sunday night?

Probably Tampa fans. And Carolina fans. And FSU fans. And anyone who cares about football who lives in the south. And Cam Newton fantasy owners. And Doug Martin fantasy owners. And every bar in Charlotte. And every bar in Tampa.

I think that just about covers it.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@wargograw said:
The SNF game this week is San Fran and the Giants. Last week it was Dallas and New Orleans. Both arguably worse games than the one you laid out. If fairness doesn't matter lets scrap the rules about the draft order, salary cap, waivers, etc.

Ratings. I don't see what you're getting your panties in a bunch over. When they are both bad, more people will watch Dallas on prime time than will watch Cleveland...that's just the way it is.

wargograw

Yes I'm well aware it's for ratings. I get it. Just saying there are plenty of other ways to boost ratings at the expense of fairness if ratings are the primary concern.