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Liberty Counsel and Judges fight perverted redefinition of real, natural Marriage

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  • Liberty Counsel must be making a killing off of Kim Davis supporters. I really missed the boat on making that kind of loot.

  • I think the contradictory line in the first sentence of the cited "article" shows just how dubious it actually is:

    "The fight for natural marriage..."

    The concept of marriage, in itself, is not a natural phenomenon; there are no examples in nature of institutionalized marriage anywhere in the animal kingdom. Marriage is a strictly man-made construct, and unique to humanity. Therefore, it is rather poor logic to attempt to legitimize heterosexual marriage over homosexual marriage in humans by using "natural laws".

    But then again, when you have an agenda, you'll grab at any straw man in arms reach.

  • but then again, you have no point, since you are misusing the term "natural law".

    It's what liberals do.

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    Natural law
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For other uses, see Natural law (disambiguation).
    Thomas Aquinas, the leading proponent of natural law.

    Natural law is a philosophy that certain rights or values are inherent by virtue of human nature, and universally cognizable through human reason. Historically, natural law refers to the use of reason to analyze both social and personal human nature to deduce binding rules of moral behavior. The law of nature, being determined by nature, is universal.[1]

  • so, it isn't "law of nature"....

    it's "natural law".

    Jblu translation;

  • Who cares? Kim Davis was married like 50 times, and pretty much everybody else who gets married gets divorced too.

    If you don't like it, don't let them get married in your church. Letting them get the license has no effect on anybody.

    It's not like by giving them equal rights has any affect on your day to day life. You could make the argument for illegal immigrants or refugees getting handouts, but the only problem some people have with gays is "I don't like it my bible says no"

  • baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

  • baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    @calfoxwc said:

    baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    Really now? As a biologist, you have piqued my interest. This is the 2nd post of yours that i've noticed that you mentioned that homosexual marriage goes against science, so i'm assuming that is your hypothesis. Which discipline of science are you referring to? Please post your peer-reviewed research that supports your theory.

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  • baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    @calfoxwc said:

    baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    Im curious as to the other reasons ?

    As I've never heard a single one that doesn't end up sounding like 'in the bible, it's a sin'.

    There is no other logical reason to deny gays the right beyond that line.

    As for 'it's science'. Ron Burgundy ??

  • He has no argument. He's attempted this many times. No one that is against gay marriage has any real argument. He's just fighting for team Wrong Side of History.

    and it appears my posts either got deleted or didn't show up from earlier, but I made a similar comment laughing at the term "natural marriage". Every time he uses it (or one of his chain emails does), I find it hilarious.

    no, wait, i forgot.... Magnets. That's his science. Magnets.

  • Who cares? Kim Davis was married like 50 times, and pretty much everybody else who gets married gets divorced too.

    If you don't like it, don't let them get married in your church. Letting them get the license has no effect on anybody.

    It's not like by giving them equal rights has any affect on your day to day life. You could make the argument for illegal immigrants or refugees getting handouts, but the only problem some people have with gays is "I don't like it my bible says no"

    @bbedward said:

    Who cares? Kim Davis was married like 50 times, and pretty much everybody else who gets married gets divorced too.

    If you don't like it, don't let them get married in your church. Letting them get the license has no effect on anybody.

    It's not like by giving them equal rights has any affect on your day to day life. You could make the argument for illegal immigrants or refugees getting handouts, but the only problem some people have with gays is "I don't like it my bible says no"

    This is the correct stance.
  • @calfoxwc said:

    baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    Really now? As a biologist, you have piqued my interest. This is the 2nd post of yours that i've noticed that you mentioned that homosexual marriage goes against science, so i'm assuming that is your hypothesis. Which discipline of science are you referring to? Please post your peer-reviewed research that supports your theory.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Really now? As a biologist, you have piqued my interest. This is the 2nd post of yours that i've noticed that you mentioned that homosexual marriage goes against science, so i'm assuming that is your hypothesis. Which discipline of science are you referring to? Please post your peer-reviewed research that supports your theory.

    Stuart

    I think he means that nature designed rod "A" to fit into slot "B" to produce an outcome "C"...and marriage is the "moral" way by which civilized people are supposed to procreate.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=marry

    I know, I know, morality is not absolute, its another can of worms.

    I would love to see Alabama get its way however, but when it comes to it, representatives of the govt should comply. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars and give unto God what is Gods.

    I'm sure God won't hold it against Kim Davis if she issues a marriage license to a couple of homos.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Really now? As a biologist, you have piqued my interest. This is the 2nd post of yours that i've noticed that you mentioned that homosexual marriage goes against science, so i'm assuming that is your hypothesis. Which discipline of science are you referring to? Please post your peer-reviewed research that supports your theory.

    Stuart

    I think he means that nature designed rod "A" to fit into slot "B" to produce an outcome "C"...and marriage is the "moral" way by which civilized people are supposed to procreate.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=marry

    I know, I know, morality is not absolute, its another can of worms.

    I would love to see Alabama get its way however, but when it comes to it, representatives of the govt should comply. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars and give unto God what is Gods.

    I'm sure God won't hold it against Kim Davis if she issues a marriage license to a couple of homos.

    @stinkhole said:

    Stuart

    I think he means that nature designed rod "A" to fit into slot "B" to produce an outcome "C"...and marriage is the "moral" way by which civilized people are supposed to procreate.

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=marry

    I know, I know, morality is not absolute, its another can of worms.

    I would love to see Alabama get its way however, but when it comes to it, representatives of the govt should comply. Give unto Caesar what is Caesars and give unto God what is Gods.

    I'm sure God won't hold it against Kim Davis if she issues a marriage license to a couple of homos.

    This, is the fucking point I've mentioned multiple times; Although with a bit more tact.

  • I think the contradictory line in the first sentence of the cited "article" shows just how dubious it actually is:

    "The fight for natural marriage..."

    The concept of marriage, in itself, is not a natural phenomenon; there are no examples in nature of institutionalized marriage anywhere in the animal kingdom. Marriage is a strictly man-made construct, and unique to humanity. Therefore, it is rather poor logic to attempt to legitimize heterosexual marriage over homosexual marriage in humans by using "natural laws".

    But then again, when you have an agenda, you'll grab at any straw man in arms reach.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    I think the contradictory line in the first sentence of the cited "article" shows just how dubious it actually is:

    "The fight for natural marriage..."

    The concept of marriage, in itself, is not a natural phenomenon; there are no examples in nature of institutionalized marriage anywhere in the animal kingdom. Marriage is a strictly man-made construct, and unique to humanity. Therefore, it is rather poor logic to attempt to legitimize heterosexual marriage over homosexual marriage in humans by using "natural laws".

    But then again, when you have an agenda, you'll grab at any straw man in arms reach.

    Yes, marriage itself is directly against nature.

    So is most of religion and civilization itself. Perfect allegory is in the old film Island of Dr Moreau, redone as island of lost souls. I believe it was from at HG Wells story where the mad scientist tries to turn animals into human beings yet they revert to their animal nature. Are we not men?

    WSS

  • Yet since marriage is a contract basically for procreation and family then there can be a distinct difference between natural and unnatural. That doesn't mean right or wrong. That means that a mock apple pie made with Ritz crackers is not the same as an apple pie made with Macintosh apples

    WSS

  • Really now? As a biologist, you have piqued my interest.​ Jblu

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    Well, Emily jblu latella......

    You see.... you take two magnets. Now, watch how, always, that N repels N, and S repels S when you try to put them together.

    It's science. Now,try doing N-S, and S-N. See?

    Sure, with biology, human beings' sexuality isn't as concretely true as that, but it's still unnatural, per natural law -

    it's a grotesque anomaly. Like a two-headed snake. Not normal. Kinda makes most people puke kind of not normal.

    So, there ya go. You can't argue with simple science, ya know. Perverted definition of REAL MARRIAGE supporters

    just get hosed, because they are science deniers, and sciencephobes.

  • He's 100% serious too. That's the funny thing.

  • baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    @calfoxwc said:

    baloney. There are a lot of reasons people abhor sick perverted garbage,

    and what the Bible says is often not one of them.

    Of course it has a lot of affect on a lot of people. Hundreds of millions of people believe

    that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

    It's science.

    no it's always something from the bible. Let it go Cal. We've moved on.

  • It's the procreation thing that's getting Cal tripped up. He doesn't understand that most of us now consider marriage as the union between two people who love each other, procreation is secondary to that. Cal is still living 2000 years ago.

  • like I could personally give a shit that two guys or two girls can't technically procreate with each other. If they love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives with each other and create a stable union which imo is more important to society than simple procreation....than so be it. It's none of my business.