Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I posing a simple question. If an athlete had a relapse of cancer would you be mad at him? Alcoholism / addiction is a disease. I'll get flamed for that sure but I don't give a shit. It's a fact. I'm not excusing his actions and yes he has to be accountable but I empathize more than hate. I've experienced addiction from both sides of the fence. I'm 25 years clean after rehab for coke and alcohol. Thank god I never tell relapsed but most do. I spent 10 of those clean years with an active addict. I hope he can get clean and realize his potential. Being fired may be what he needs to who knows. I just feel sad for him and his family. Tiamat I'll ad I don't make the comparison lightly as my mother passed from lung cancer. There's a good chance I think this has been an issue over the last month and is behind the signing of Davis.I know you're not comparing alcoholism to cancer.
I posing a simple question. If an athlete had a relapse of cancer would you be mad at him? Alcoholism / addiction is a disease. I'll get flamed for that sure but I don't give a shit. It's a fact. I'm not excusing his actions and yes he has to be accountable but I empathize more than hate. I've experienced addiction from both sides of the fence. I'm 25 years clean after rehab for coke and alcohol. Thank god I never tell relapsed but most do. I spent 10 of those clean years with an active addict. I hope he can get clean and realize his potential. Being fired may be what he needs to who knows. I just feel sad for him and his family. Tiamat I'll ad I don't make the comparison lightly as my mother passed from lung cancer. There's a good chance I think this has been an issue over the last month and is behind the signing of Davis.
Hats off man. That was honest and open, and well said.
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I wasn't the one getting upset over someone taking offense over comparing cancer to alcoholism/drug addiction.
But you were the one saying some ignorant shit. So you don't understand it? Fine. No shame in that. It's never something you had to deal with. Yay for your life choices.
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I've heard from a few people I know that Johnny is back up to his old tricks and it sounds like it's an open secret downtown. I have it on good authority (a CPD cop I know and trust) that he was actually carried out of a downtown bar at 2 AM late last month because he was too drunk to walk. Sure sure, it could all be bullshit, but in my experience in these matters smoke means fire.
I want the dude to succeed here but if these accounts are true, it's gonna be really hard.
Not apologizing for the kid at all but let's apply some critical thinking here. Wouldn't him partying have gotten out in some way?
Not apologizing for the kid at all but let's apply some critical thinking here. Wouldn't him partying have gotten out in some way?
I hope you're right. He's a Brown, and like any Browns player I want him to succeed.
But if alcohol is a problem for him, and he is trying to "control it", well then he's fucked. If a person has a substance abuse problem, they can't fuck with that substance. Period. Google Audrey Kishline for a good example of what happens to alcoholics who try to play the moderation game. Sooner or later it's going to bite them in the ass.
(It is important to point out that, as far as I know, we were never told what his real issue was in going to rehab. I think most of us assume it was for alcohol, but it could be anything for all we know. Maybe he's just a coke fiend who drinks like Oliver Reed when he gets jacked but when not snorting yak he can have a couple beers and be fine etc etc etc. Maybe he has a heroin problem. Who knows. Anything is possible.)
Bottom line: Alcoholics shouldn't drink. If they do, bad shit happens. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF JM IS AN ALCOHOLIC, but if he is and he is still drinking, then sooner or later this is gonna happen:
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It's the hooker he keeps around cuz she swallows. I've been with many crazy bitches in my years of fucking around. They will ruin your life if you let them. Hell I woulda helped her throw herself out the car.
"Women, dey can't hold dey smoke!"
My woman's birthday was yesterday. Went to our fave restaraunt she had a couple of glasses of wine. Stopped at the store to pick up some more Merlot for her for HER day. By 6 o'clock I was the biggest scumbag in the world, I was fucking my assistant ten years ago and I have to get the fuck out of 'her' house.
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I wasn't the one getting upset over someone taking offense over comparing cancer to alcoholism/drug addiction.
But you were the one saying some ignorant shit. So you don't understand it? Fine. No shame in that. It's never something you had to deal with. Yay for your life choices.
But you were the one saying some ignorant shit. So you don't understand it? Fine. No shame in that. It's never something you had to deal with. Yay for your life choices.
Yeah,I am a real dick for saying that being a booze hound isn't on par with cancer.
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He needs to break ties with her, send her back to Texas on a jet, and
find a girlfriend who is the kind of gal with values he wants to keep to.
Maybe he realized it was over, talked to her about it...and she was totally po'd, got drunk....
and he'll be just fine.
More the problem solver than the problem....we'll see. Hope he's good to go forward.
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Ernie, regardless of what he went to rehab for, alcohol is a gateway "drug," and he thus shouldn't be drinking it. But I do find it hard to believe that he's been running the downtown bars for a month without that going viral in some way.
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Here is her Instagram:
https://instagram.com/coll_crowley/?hl=en
Note the most recent statement. Just reading that shows what she is. Telling people that they should always stop if they see a guy and girl arguing? Wow...... who wants the bet each and every issue that guy has had has been attributed to this broad? Sure he is an adult and a man and needs to be accountable but man oh man that's a shitty mentality.
Apparently she was attempting to jump out of the car on the highway, he grabbed her, yanked her back in, hit her head in the process of saving her life.... and then.... baam... he's blamed. I've been a critic of JM but there is no way in hell he is at fault here. None.....
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Ernie, regardless of what he went to rehab for, alcohol is a gateway "drug," and he thus shouldn't be drinking it. But I do find it hard to believe that he's been running the downtown bars for a month without that going viral in some way.
Ernie, regardless of what he went to rehab for, alcohol is a gateway "drug," and he thus shouldn't be drinking it. But I do find it hard to believe that he's been running the downtown bars for a month without that going viral in some way.
Locals and the sports media would not be able to keep a lid on something like that.
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Right.
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Here is her Instagram:
https://instagram.com/coll_crowley/?hl=en
Note the most recent statement. Just reading that shows what she is. Telling people that they should always stop if they see a guy and girl arguing? Wow...... who wants the bet each and every issue that guy has had has been attributed to this broad? Sure he is an adult and a man and needs to be accountable but man oh man that's a shitty mentality.
Apparently she was attempting to jump out of the car on the highway, he grabbed her, yanked her back in, hit her head in the process of saving her life.... and then.... baam... he's blamed. I've been a critic of JM but there is no way in hell he is at fault here. None.....
Here is her Instagram:
https://instagram.com/coll_crowley/?hl=en
Note the most recent statement. Just reading that shows what she is. Telling people that they should always stop if they see a guy and girl arguing? Wow...... who wants the bet each and every issue that guy has had has been attributed to this broad? Sure he is an adult and a man and needs to be accountable but man oh man that's a shitty mentality.
Apparently she was attempting to jump out of the car on the highway, he grabbed her, yanked her back in, hit her head in the process of saving her life.... and then.... baam... he's blamed. I've been a critic of JM but there is no way in hell he is at fault here. None.....
Ten Pictures on her front page: Johnny in one of them. Mom in one of them. Dog's in four of them ... she is making the duck face in six of them.
What is she 12? Run, Johnny, run ... Please find a nice chick that doesn't take pictures of herself making the duck face.
He shoulda got rid of her when he went to rehab. A drunk narcissistic batshit chick isn't probably what he needs.
Zombo
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From looking at her Instagram account, she looks like a poster child for plastic surgery. She looks totally fake
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
He needs to go. I'd say he would be worth the trouble if he was on the field and contributing.
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Here is her Instagram:
https://instagram.com/coll_crowley/?hl=en
Note the most recent statement. Just reading that shows what she is. Telling people that they should always stop if they see a guy and girl arguing? Wow...... who wants the bet each and every issue that guy has had has been attributed to this broad? Sure he is an adult and a man and needs to be accountable but man oh man that's a shitty mentality.
Apparently she was attempting to jump out of the car on the highway, he grabbed her, yanked her back in, hit her head in the process of saving her life.... and then.... baam... he's blamed. I've been a critic of JM but there is no way in hell he is at fault here. None.....
Ten Pictures on her front page: Johnny in one of them. Mom in one of them. Dog's in four of them ... she is making the duck face in six of them.
What is she 12? Run, Johnny, run ... Please find a nice chick that doesn't take pictures of herself making the duck face.
He shoulda got rid of her when he went to rehab. A drunk narcissistic batshit chick isn't probably what he needs.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Ten Pictures on her front page: Johnny in one of them. Mom in one of them. Dog's in four of them ... she is making the duck face in six of them.
What is she 12? Run, Johnny, run ... Please find a nice chick that doesn't take pictures of herself making the duck face.
He shoulda got rid of her when he went to rehab. A drunk narcissistic batshit chick isn't probably what he needs.
Zombo
And yet we've all had at least one!
WSS
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Zombo said:
Ten Pictures on her front page: Johnny in one of them. Mom in one of them. Dog's in four of them ... she is making the duck face in six of them.
What is she 12? Run, Johnny, run ... Please find a nice chick that doesn't take pictures of herself making the duck face.
He shoulda got rid of her when he went to rehab. A drunk narcissistic batshit chick isn't probably what he needs.
Zombo
And yet we've all had at least one!
WSS
And yet we've all had at least one!
WSS
Yes, this is experience talking.
Spent way too much time in the Danger Zone
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He needs to go. I'd say he would be worth the trouble if he was on the field and contributing.
He needs to go. I'd say he would be worth the trouble if he was on the field and contributing.
Well he's won every game he's started this season.
WSS
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Oh yea, just what we thought. The AM news is already adding him to the abuser list. He pulled the drunk tramp back into his truck & yea her head may have hit a window. Who now thinks they make him inactive till his talk with the League or should the league react to the police report in this at all? Thanks Media!!
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Here is her Instagram:
https://instagram.com/coll_crowley/?hl=en
Note the most recent statement. Just reading that shows what she is. Telling people that they should always stop if they see a guy and girl arguing? Wow...... who wants the bet each and every issue that guy has had has been attributed to this broad? Sure he is an adult and a man and needs to be accountable but man oh man that's a shitty mentality.
Apparently she was attempting to jump out of the car on the highway, he grabbed her, yanked her back in, hit her head in the process of saving her life.... and then.... baam... he's blamed. I've been a critic of JM but there is no way in hell he is at fault here. None.....
Ten Pictures on her front page: Johnny in one of them. Mom in one of them. Dog's in four of them ... she is making the duck face in six of them.
What is she 12? Run, Johnny, run ... Please find a nice chick that doesn't take pictures of herself making the duck face.
He shoulda got rid of her when he went to rehab. A drunk narcissistic batshit chick isn't probably what he needs.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Ten Pictures on her front page: Johnny in one of them. Mom in one of them. Dog's in four of them ... she is making the duck face in six of them.
What is she 12? Run, Johnny, run ... Please find a nice chick that doesn't take pictures of herself making the duck face.
He shoulda got rid of her when he went to rehab. A drunk narcissistic batshit chick isn't probably what he needs.
Zombo
If I woke up next to that nightmare, I wouldn't have a drinking problem. In fact, I'd have no problem getting drunk.
The kid goes to bed thinking he's sleeping with Jessica Alba only to wake up next to something looking like Caitlyn Jenner.
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i'm super glad this latest brush was minimal and appears fairly petty.
it's the "go hard or stay home" type of partying situation i fear which would no doubt lead to a probable point of no return, that thankfully this was not.
this is a positive to me, a "check and balance" instance which can serve as another welcome wake-up call to reinforce his recovery and temperance. after all the work he's put in this will hopefully serve as an apparently needed reminder to him to fully curb his tendencies.
this calls for a celebration and high fives, not a pile-on-fest of disrepute. Johnny o Johnny, you make me imagine what my parents felt like raising me...and how it affected their blood pressure every time i went on Dead tour or they went out of town for vacations.
there clearly is some writing on the wall, but it can still be painted over. at this point at least.
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It doesnt sound like too big of a deal to me, except......Ive often wondered if Johnny is now in the NFL substance abuse program....
There are MANY ways to get into the program and they include college indiscretions and other incidents that do not include actual testing.....just the act of entering rehab is enough to trigger it......sooooooo......if he is, this could be a problem for him going forward...
I guess we will have to wait and see if the league responds......And if he's in the program, they will.......
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