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Obama Loves the Military Sooo Much..........

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  • Q: Did this hit the floor yet?

    mz. said:

    Q: Did this hit the floor yet?

    Because it will never make it to a vote does not change anything. His own Secretary of the VA pretty much told him it is a stupid fooking idea and recommends that BHO never bring it up again. That is how stupid the proposal is.

    Bush made a boat load of mistakes, and now the ultra-right of the Republican party are coming out of the word work trying to pounce on the POTUS for everything. I am not one of those people. I want Obama to do well. But this is a bad idea, and it does not need to "hit the floor" to be an example of piss poor thinking.

  • I understand mistakes. Bush made em, but HE caught hell for it.

    Obama makes em, and it's all smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that he isn't qualified

    to be Commander in Chief. This last "plan" is outrageous, and so wrong that you can't

    possibly consider Obama a MISTAKE as such.

    And, although he has plenty of time to have been a good pres...

    he is off to a -poor- start and doesn't show signs of getting it.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I understand mistakes. Bush made em, but HE caught hell for it.

    Obama makes em, and it's all smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that he isn't qualified

    to be Commander in Chief. This last "plan" is outrageous, and so wrong that you can't

    possibly consider Obama a MISTAKE as such.

    And, although he has plenty of time to have been a good pres...

    he is off to a -poor- start and doesn't show signs of getting it.

    For a person who supported one of the worst decision making presidents this country has EVER had, you seem to have a lot of stones to throw from that glass house of yours. You have an entire board of threads worth of stones.

  • anyone find it ironic that this and the brass shredding proposal were canceled on the same day?

  • With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    Even active soldiers are treated exteremly poorly when they get wounded.

  • With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    Even active soldiers are treated exteremly poorly when they get wounded.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    Even active soldiers are treated exteremly poorly when they get wounded.

    Bush passed enormous increases in VA spending the last two years, and that was all before the stimulus. I sell to the VA here in Vegas, Reno and Oregon. You have no clue that what you just said was false, do you?

  • It could be but I seem to remember cutbacks in that area.

    Yep, he was planning on it. I think this qualifies under wanting to cut veteran's benefits. More so than what you are blasting Obama for.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/12/...D8N8BJ480.shtml

  • With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    Even active soldiers are treated exteremly poorly when they get wounded.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    Even active soldiers are treated extremely poorly when they get wounded.

    Another idiotic statement. Where do you get your facts from? Military medicine is fantastic. They get the best treatment. The only area where treatment needs to improve is mental illness. This has alot to do with the take it like a man and deal with it attitude that goes with being in the military.

  • It could be but I seem to remember cutbacks in that area.

    Yep, he was planning on it. I think this qualifies under wanting to cut veteran's benefits. More so than what you are blasting Obama for.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/12/...D8N8BJ480.shtml

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    It could be but I seem to remember cutbacks in that area.

    Yep, he was planning on it. I think this qualifies under wanting to cut veteran's benefits. More so than what you are blasting Obama for.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/12/...D8N8BJ480.shtml

    As I said you don't know jack shit. This is what you said:

    With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    You first said he cut them, and now you're trying to cover it up. You're wrong. And what Obama proposed has nothing to do with Bush.

    You were wrong, got called on it, and now you want to be a child about it and try and point the finger at Bush. Fooking hilarious that you're wrong, and somehow it is Bush's fault.

    Get your facts straight.

  • With the cuts the the Bush administration passed through, I think most soldiers would be better off going anywhere else than to the VA hospital.

    Even active soldiers are treated exteremly poorly when they get wounded.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Even active soldiers are treated exteremly poorly when they get wounded.

    Oh really now? Care to back that up with personal knowledge? Prove it !!!!!

  • http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...nded-veterans/BMT

    President Obama, after an uproar by veterans groups, has scrapped a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for the treatment of troops injured in service.

    "In considering the third-party billing issue, the administration was seeking to maximize the resources available for veterans," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday in a written statement. "However, the president listened to concerns raised by the [veteran service organizations] that this might, under certain circumstances, affect veterans' and their families' ability to access health care.

    "Therefore, the president has instructed that its consideration be dropped," Gibbs said.

    Smart move. It was doomed the minute he thought it up.

  • For a person who supported one of the worst decision making presidents this country has EVER had, you seem to have a lot of stones to throw from that glass house of yours. You have an entire board of threads worth of stones. VD

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    I supported Bush because of the two goofs that should not have run for president. Far loonyier and worthless

    than Bush by a long ways.

    I dissed Bush in a huge way for not stopping illegal immigration.

    But Bush never did the things I detest ...that Obama has done or wants to do. I will criticize either one as see fit.

    You, however, don't seem to have the nads to criticize Obumbly for anything, no matter what he does, what he says,

    or for his appts, or what he wants to do.

    Bush never hurt anyone I know in my life....

    Obama already has upset several friends who VOTED for HIM. So, there ya go.

  • For a person who supported one of the worst decision making presidents this country has EVER had, you seem to have a lot of stones to throw from that glass house of yours. You have an entire board of threads worth of stones. VD

    ************************************************************************

    I supported Bush because of the two goofs that should not have run for president. Far loonyier and worthless

    than Bush by a long ways.

    I dissed Bush in a huge way for not stopping illegal immigration.

    But Bush never did the things I detest ...that Obama has done or wants to do. I will criticize either one as see fit.

    You, however, don't seem to have the nads to criticize Obumbly for anything, no matter what he does, what he says,

    or for his appts, or what he wants to do.

    Bush never hurt anyone I know in my life....

    Obama already has upset several friends who VOTED for HIM. So, there ya go.

    @calfoxwc said:

    You, however, don't seem to have the nads to criticize Obumbly for anything, no matter what he does, what he says,

    Are you growing marijuana on that farm of yours? Take a look at this thread alone and there are criticisms of Obama by me. I criticize all politicians because they fooking deserve it, but if you're not going to take the time to research before slinging comments my way then I guess you have that right. Just makes you wrong most of the time.

  • If you have, my bad, but I'm really busy farming. And I'm tired and I still have a ton of work to do.

    OTH, we're having a lot of fun. Greenhouse is done and has electric in it. Ready to plant seedings, and work

    on the rest of the full page of jobs.

    I don't know whether to go cut wood, or go prune the fruit trees, or put the new fine seeder on the grain drill,

    or spring clean out the shed...

    but the new bracket to put the step on the John Deere works beautiful. We bought the step ($200), but it

    wouldn't bolt to the tractor, because the front end loader went there.

    So, we designed an auxillary bracket that would fit over the heads of those bolts, and

    bolted the step bracket to that. Works beautiful... I am going to check on a patent.

    but I could split wood with the new log splitter, or take the tractor and small hay wagon and go

    get another load of wood we've cut so far... but I need to study my hay book, and test the soil

    for PH... and...

    well, anyways. I'm busy. Cut me some slack.

  • Sounds like your busy, we finished the garden ourselves down here and have plenty of leafy vegetables that were allready harvesting. Nothing like a fresh salad right out of your own greenhouse. 🙂

    soon the idiots will make gardening illegal if you dont believe me read this

    http://standeyo.com/NEWS/09_Food_Water/090...food.HR875.html

  • And we're back to remembering Obama using economics as a weapon to manipulate,

    and what Stalin did to the Ukraine.

    But I think Obama will back off that one. Even green weenie global warming libs who garden will

    hate that one.

    Won't fly, and had better freakin not.