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  • Re: Our defense. That over call O'Neil likes to give. We need to more work on holding the backside contain and filling the B gap. Might have been game speed and I missed it, but it felt like several times Mingo, Kirksey just didn't fill and after Manning would audible to the weakside, Denver would make it a solid gain.

  • W Why

    Just got home from the game and for once I actually felt the Browns had as good a chance to win as lose . . . Which is a step in the right direction. But coaching is still killing us.

    Beyond the decision to go for 2, which I questioned, but at least could see the reasoning, the overtime period was amateur hour. Our D couldn't get up to the line or get off the field in time (because we have to switch our lineman every play), it was on coaching to call the time out and get that shit corrected. The fact we didn't have a chance to kick the game winning field goal after intercepting on their 39 lays completely at the feet of the coaching staff. Why on god's green earth do you call the most risky running play in the book on first down in that situation. I know we have a rookie kicker, but you run up the middle a couple times and hopefully gain 6 yards and you at least have a shot. Pettine having no faith in his players unless they are grizzled veterans is costing this team.

    @why said:

    Just got home from the game and for once I actually felt the Browns had as good a chance to win as lose . . . Which is a step in the right direction. But coaching is still killing us.

    Beyond the decision to go for 2, which I questioned, but at least could see the reasoning, the overtime period was amateur hour. Our D couldn't get up to the line or get off the field in time (because we have to switch our lineman every play), it was on coaching to call the time out and get that shit corrected. The fact we didn't have a chance to kick the game winning field goal after intercepting on their 39 lays completely at the feet of the coaching staff. Why on god's green earth do you call the most risky running play in the book on first down in that situation. I know we have a rookie kicker, but you run up the middle a couple times and hopefully gain 6 yards and you at least have a shot. Pettine having no faith in his players unless they are grizzled veterans is costing this team.

    i have not read every post but my first post was why the f did we run turbin to the outside...that was the play that cost us the game at that point..whoever called itneeds to get their ass kicked......jeez....

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @baconhound said:

    We're not?

    We dropped 23 on the best defense in the league and took an undefeated team to overtime.

    We're not what we were before.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    We dropped 23 on the best defense in the league and took an undefeated team to overtime.

    We're not what we were before.

    me thinks we have been 2-4 before...many times as a matter of fact...don't care who we play...good teams mediocre teams etc...nothing has changed..bad play calling, horrible ol play...no pass rush.. another 100 plus rusher ..really...so what if haden was out...he is having a shitty yr anyway...i have seen his ass get kicked more often than not this yr...and what did gibson do prior to his injury.....makes an int then fumbles it right back to the jets on the same play...yeah great...got news for ya...if ware would have played we would have got crushed the way our ol played today...we......still......suck......it's all about the w's and the l's...

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Fire Pettine and Farmer. JFF would have won this game, bank it.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fire Pettine and Farmer. JFF would have won this game, bank

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Fire Pettine and Farmer. JFF would have won this game, bank it.

    a heheheheeee. a heheheeeeeee...

  • A lot of what ifs, missed opportunities and mistakes are the reason we are 2-4 right now and not 5-1. Even the Jets game I have to wonder if the outcome would have been different had McCown not gone out of the game in the first quarter? In the Oakland game we started playing with some urgency in the second half and made a good comeback that fell short. Why didn't we have the sense of urgency the whole game? Against the Chargers we put enough points on the board to win but defense cost us that game. In today's game I put more of the blame on the offense. The defense played well enough for us to win but the offense could not come through when needed. You cannot waste an opportunity in OT of an interception and getting the ball at the opponents 40 and have to punt. You can't do it. The other team will say thank you very much and make you pay for missing the golden opportunity which Manning did.

  • Better question is- did the Brown's defense even TOUCH Manning all game

    Only when they shook hands at the end of the game.

  • I blame not getting the extra point, all else was ebb and flow in the game, well fought and hell even mingo showed up. I put this loss on pettine. Live and learn.

    OldBrownsFanO 1 Reply
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Bottom line, if fat ass Pettine had gone for 1 instead of 2, we would have 1, capish?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Bottom line, if fat ass Pettine had gone for 1 instead of 2, we would have 1, capish?

    Wow.. Too much sand in your vagina today?

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  • T tiredbrownsfan

    JM is a better QB...simple as that. i have been watching the browns ALMOST do it for 35 years now and im TIRED OF IT!!! same stupid crap no matter who is HC...QB...ECT... JM looks good! PUT HIM IN AND LET HIM LEARN by playing.

    @tiredbrownsfan said:

    JM is a better QB...simple as that. i have been watching the browns ALMOST do it for 35 years now and im TIRED OF IT!!! same stupid crap no matter who is HC...QB...ECT... JM looks good! PUT HIM IN AND LET HIM LEARN by playing.

    Have you even watched the last three games?? You are a moron.
  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    I blame not getting the extra point, all else was ebb and flow in the game, well fought and hell even mingo showed up. I put this loss on pettine. Live and learn.

    @kvoethe said:

    I blame not getting the extra point, all else was ebb and flow in the game, well fought and hell even mingo showed up. I put this loss on pettine. Live and learn.

    On one hand the 2 points would put us up by 2 field goals yet on the other hand if Denver would score a td next on the very first play (which they did now we need a field goal to tie instead of a fg to win). It was not a good decision by Pettine but I thought the odds of our being successful on the 2 point conversion went up huge when Denver got the penalty and we got the ball on the one yard line. Still you are right, should have kicked the extra point and put the pressure on Denver to go for 2 on their score.

  • Defense definitely did not play like world beaters today. Another 150 yards given up on the ground, db's routinely getting torched on the outside and almost no pressure.

    They did make some nice stops and a few nice grabs, but they haven't turned any corners . . . Let's not forget this isn't the manning of old or some high powered offense . . . Manning god love him is at the end of his rope.

    I wonder how much grease the NFL is gonna put on the Denver wheels so he can go out top?

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @tour2ma said:

    Thank you, TCPO, for taking the torch and carrying on...

    Carry on...

    Touch? Yes, Meder did. Impact? No.

    h,

    Was it as quiet at the game as it seemed during the broadcast? Saw a lot of shots of fans yelling late, but could still hear Manning over the crowd.

    You've got to be a gay mother fucker.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You've got to be a gay mother fucker.

    It just occurred to me you are a literal clone of Soju. You two should hook up. You're both dumb as hell and both very fond of gay references. Give in to it you are meant for each other.
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  • Coaches are to coach to win period. Not play for Ties that you may lose. Today we failed as a Team at both. plenty to go around but at the 39, chart or no chart, it's in the line & Coons. Pet & Flip let it go wrong today many times not playing for the win imo. But they don't tackle either..

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  • Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

    We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

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  • The pick 6 was killer, especially with Denver offense struggling.

    Pick by the defense in OT should have been the game clincher, but we took sacks and gave it back to Manning so he could win because we were feeling generous I guess.

    Also the pick at the end of regulation, impossibly frustrating.

    We had so many chances to win, we just didn't seem to want to.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

    We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

    We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

    i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

    jcam222J miktoxicM 2 Replies
  • B browns52

    @jrb12711 said:

    Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

    We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

    i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

    @browns52 said:

    i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

    The worlds longest sentence call Guinness. Take your Ritalin, take a deep breath and see if you can form whole rational sentences. Were you poked in the head a lot while still in the womb?? Sorry about that I should have been more careful.
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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @tour2ma said:

    Thank you, TCPO, for taking the torch and carrying on...

    Carry on...

    Touch? Yes, Meder did. Impact? No.

    h,

    Was it as quiet at the game as it seemed during the broadcast? Saw a lot of shots of fans yelling late, but could still hear Manning over the crowd.

    You've got to be a gay mother fucker.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You've got to be a gay mother fucker.

    You use both brain cells to come up with that one?

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  • B browns52

    @jrb12711 said:

    Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

    We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

    i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

    @browns52 said:

    i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

    alot of so=called fans don't have the fortitude to stick by the team they love.

    broken hearts are for assholes but if you let a game and some scrub fans turn your position.....you are not a soldier.

    hoortaH W 2 Replies
  • jcam222J jcam222

    @browns52 said:

    i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

    The worlds longest sentence call Guinness. Take your Ritalin, take a deep breath and see if you can form whole rational sentences. Were you poked in the head a lot while still in the womb?? Sorry about that I should have been more careful.

    @jcam222 said:

    The worlds longest sentence call Guinness. Take your Ritalin, take a deep breath and see if you can form whole rational sentences. Were you poked in the head a lot while still in the womb?? Sorry about that I should have been more careful.

    @jcam222 said:

    The worlds longest sentence call Guinness. Take your Ritalin, take a deep breath and see if you can form whole rational sentences. Were you poked in the head a lot while still in the womb?? Sorry about that I should have been more careful.

    all right...took my ritalin...we can't draft well, we suck at free agency...that all points to the owner and gm...nuff said...we ain't turnin any corners until that is fixed. end of story...

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