Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Tell me where Cowher is wrong:
"I've watched Johnny Manziel now for a year and a half and I think he's a backup quarterback at best. And he's a distraction off the field," Cowher said on The NFL Today. "And listen, I believe in second chances but after the second chance, to me there's a zero-tolerance policy. He can't put himself into the position he put himself into.
"I would ask for his release and I would do it for this reason: in that locker room players want accountability ... and that's the message that needs to be sent right here, that you're accountable for your actions both on the field and off the field."
Tell me where Cowher is wrong:
"I've watched Johnny Manziel now for a year and a half and I think he's a backup quarterback at best. And he's a distraction off the field," Cowher said on The NFL Today. "And listen, I believe in second chances but after the second chance, to me there's a zero-tolerance policy. He can't put himself into the position he put himself into.
"I would ask for his release and I would do it for this reason: in that locker room players want accountability ... and that's the message that needs to be sent right here, that you're accountable for your actions both on the field and off the field."
He's not...you are....you're a brown's fan...don't learn from winners/success...learn from these puss-guts!
Poor Johnny..... steals from our team and the fans help him drive the get away car....geez!
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Truth is the truth no matter who says it. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.
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"I've watched Johnny Manziel now for a year and a half and I think he's a backup quarterback at best. Agree And he's a distraction off the field," agree Cowher said on The NFL Today. "And listen, I believe in second chances agree but after the second chance, to me there's a zero-tolerance policy agree. He can't put himself into the position he put himself into agree.
"I would ask for his release agree and I would do it for this reason: in that locker room players want accountability agree ... and that's the message that needs to be sent right here agree, that you're accountable for your actions both on the field and off the field. agree"
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He's only played a handful of games in a year and a half. Cowher has no clue what's happening in the locker room, behind the scenes, or otherwise.
The story is not as big of a deal as it's being made out to be. The general consensus is his girlfriend was causing problems and the dash cam video seemed to agree with that.
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He's only played a handful of games in a year and a half. Cowher has no clue what's happening in the locker room, behind the scenes, or otherwise.
The story is not as big of a deal as it's being made out to be. The general consensus is his girlfriend was causing problems and the dash cam video seemed to agree with that.
He's only played a handful of games in a year and a half. Cowher has no clue what's happening in the locker room, behind the scenes, or otherwise.
The story is not as big of a deal as it's being made out to be. The general consensus is his girlfriend was causing problems and the dash cam video seemed to agree with that.
What? Cowher knows what can't happen and what effects it has on a group trying to become a team. General consensus of people here? He fucked up and was out all night parting many times last year, even before games. Did you listen to the dash cam....maybe you do, but if you touch a woman in front of me, you're gonna get some!
I think some of you are jealous of her and wish it was you lying next to him in bed by the way you "stand by your man".
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The Man Boy Love for this moron is a little unsettling. Of coarse ill just be labeled a hater because I was 100% correct when I hated the draft pick in the first place.
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Unless Cowher becomes our HC, he can STFU as far as I am concerned.
Yeah, I wouldn't listen to Cowher either.....he thinks he knows better than I what is needed to be a team+focus+moral+personel= SuperB..PISS-OFF!
You folks sound like they are glued at the hip! You have tagged her as BSC and made all kinds of excuses for a known jackass. If it gets out of control and she is BSC, pull the car over and call 911.....oh wait, can't do that because he was drinking.
He has no one to blame but himself and we should hold his feet to the fire as fans........we are a nation wide JOKE!
Yeah, I wouldn't listen to Cowher either.....he thinks he knows better than I what is needed to be a team+focus+moral+personel= SuperB..PISS-OFF!
Here's a helpful tip......always highlight your sarcasm in pink ^^^^^^^^^ then even the thick ones will understand......
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He's only played a handful of games in a year and a half. Cowher has no clue what's happening in the locker room, behind the scenes, or otherwise.
The story is not as big of a deal as it's being made out to be. The general consensus is his girlfriend was causing problems and the dash cam video seemed to agree with that.
What? Cowher knows what can't happen and what effects it has on a group trying to become a team. General consensus of people here? He fucked up and was out all night parting many times last year, even before games. Did you listen to the dash cam....maybe you do, but if you touch a woman in front of me, you're gonna get some!
I think some of you are jealous of her and wish it was you lying next to him in bed by the way you "stand by your man".
What? Cowher knows what can't happen and what effects it has on group trying to become a team. General consensus of people here? He fucked up and was out all night parting many times last year, even before games. Did you listen to the dash cam....maybe you do, but if you touch a woman in front of me, you're gonna get some!
I think some of you are jealous of her and wish it was you lying next to him in bed by the way you "stand by your man".
I don't have man boy love for Johnny, Money McCown is the only one I want to be in bed with.
But seriously she was changing her story and piss drunk, the mark on her arm was consistent with keeping her from getting out of the car.
Many people are incriminating him over something that was determined to not be a crime.
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What? Cowher knows what can't happen and what effects it has on group trying to become a team. General consensus of people here? He fucked up and was out all night parting many times last year, even before games. Did you listen to the dash cam....maybe you do, but if you touch a woman in front of me, you're gonna get some!
I think some of you are jealous of her and wish it was you lying next to him in bed by the way you "stand by your man".
I don't have man boy love for Johnny, Money McCown is the only one I want to be in bed with.
But seriously she was changing her story and piss drunk, the mark on her arm was consistent with keeping her from getting out of the car.
Many people are incriminating him over something that was determined to not be a crime.
Many people are incriminating him over something that was determined to not be a crime.
I think people are incriminating him for being part of yet another negative news story and creating negative press for the team.....
for about the 10th time in 16 months....(how much is too much????).....
Dating this girl and taking her out to get drunk on a Monday afternoon is just another glaring example of his inability to make good decisions....
and the team endures all this distraction & negative press for a guy who has provided nothing in return......(but news)
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Many people are incriminating him over something that was determined to not be a crime.
I think people are incriminating him for being part of yet another negative news story and creating negative press for the team.....
for about the 10th time in 16 months....(how much is too much????).....
Dating this girl and taking her out to get drunk on a Monday afternoon is just another glaring example of his inability to make good decisions....
and the team endures all this distraction & negative press for a guy who has provided nothing in return......(but news)
I think people are incriminating him for being part of yet another negative news story and creating negative press for the team.....
for about the 10th time in 16 months....(how much is too much????).....
Dating this girl and taking her out to get drunk on a Monday afternoon is just another glaring example of his inability to make good decisions....
and the team endures all this distraction & negative press for a guy who has provided nothing in return......(but news)
That's my feeling as well.
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Here's a helpful tip......always highlight your sarcasm in pink ^^^^^^^^^ then even the thick ones will understand......
although cower also said once that brady Quinn is a winner.
I don't agree or disagree with anything just because Cowher said it. On what he said about Manziel I agree 100 percent.
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Some of the stuff written in here about a young girl nobody knows nor has ever met is terrible. Maybe I'm just old fashioned
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The girl is a entitled piece of trash party girl, nothing more.
Here's the full dashcam video, along with the dashcam video of Kruger talking to the police.
http://bustedcoverage.com/2015/10/19/johnny-manziel-police-report-raw-police-video/
Best line "She's not the one he should be with, I'll tell you that."
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I dont think its a non story at all....In fact, Im thinking this may be the end of Johnny here in Cleveland.....
Pettine's "contentious press conference" today...... Pet seemed pretty irritated over the whole thing ..... Dude looked stressed in the 15 second clip they showed.
Just a few weeks ago, Pat McManamon was saying "his info" already had the Browns at the "fed up" level. Honestly, I think Pet wishes he'd never even heard of Johnny, let alone having to be his coach. So, he endures yet another hi pressure pressy all about his Back Up QB. What coach wants to deal with this over and over and over and over. Which is what Pet has been doing.
Manziel could face NFL discipline for domestic incident ...
.....and/or possible alcohol consumption.....ala Josh Gordon....."if" he's in the program(and I think he is)...
Following his rocky rookie seasaon, Manziel spent 70 days in a Pennsylvania rehab facility during the offseason for an unknown condition. It's not known if he is in the league's substance-abuse program. If he is and if he violated any conditions, Manziel could face additional fines or suspensions.As above....I think the odds say he is already in the program and it was probably the reason he entered rehab to begin with. After all his statements of "I aint changing for nobody", he suddenly decided 70 days in a clinic was needed all on his own???....(cmon)...hahaha....I think someone decided for him or it was negotiated to prevent other action....Pettine would not say if the Browns have considered trading Manziel, a first-round draft pick in 2014.You can bet they have considered it and are, in fact, trying to find a suitor as we speak.....Finally...FARMER, who has not spoken since his return, should be the one answering all the Johnny Distraction questions....Pettine should be coaching, not baby sitting or spinning PR on our loose cannon back up.....I dont think its a non story at all....In fact, Im thinking this may be the end of Johnny here in Cleveland.....
There's a "final straw" out there somewhere. Hard for me to see this as being it.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Dont care if this chick is a straight up kunt, he put hands on her he needs to be held accountable. Again she doesn't wanna press charges only cause it'll Fuck up her meal ticket. She needs to get away from him just as much as he needs to vet away from her. This is only the tip of the ice berg. Alcohol + young man with temper and ego issues+ drama kunt= DANGER
So letting her jump out of the car is a better alternative? Ok.
So letting her jump out of the car is a better alternative? Ok.
@KosichJohn: "She's not the right one he should be with I'll tell you that much." Paul Kruger on Johnny Manziel's girlfriend. https://t.co/vxmz0Gh98D
Pretty reasonable distillation of the 16-minute, raw dash cam with the Kruger bit added and the audio cleaned up more than a little.
This made me LOL!!!
Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying...
According to cleveland.com MKC stats he had her in a headlock while still driving, it's unbelievable the levels they stoop to, just to add a little extra twist.
I'm done reading the BS written on that site, they're supposed to be supporters.
Actually that is in the full Police report. I believe the first 911-caller on the freeway reported this as what appeared to be going on in the moving vehicle. But to twist it to make it seem to be verifiable fact is irresponsible.
This incident seems a little overblown to me. If it were any other player, it would be a non-issue. But Manziel has a target on him because of who is is. Cowher's right, we should cut him for being a distraction.
Your "logic" made my head hurt...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So letting her jump out of the car is a better alternative? Ok.
@KosichJohn: "She's not the right one he should be with I'll tell you that much." Paul Kruger on Johnny Manziel's girlfriend. https://t.co/vxmz0Gh98D
Pretty reasonable distillation of the 16-minute, raw dash cam with the Kruger bit added and the audio cleaned up more than a little.
This made me LOL!!!
Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying...
According to cleveland.com MKC stats he had her in a headlock while still driving, it's unbelievable the levels they stoop to, just to add a little extra twist.
I'm done reading the BS written on that site, they're supposed to be supporters.
Actually that is in the full Police report. I believe the first 911-caller on the freeway reported this as what appeared to be going on in the moving vehicle. But to twist it to make it seem to be verifiable fact is irresponsible.
This incident seems a little overblown to me. If it were any other player, it would be a non-issue. But Manziel has a target on him because of who is is. Cowher's right, we should cut him for being a distraction.
Your "logic" made my head hurt...
Actually that is in the full Police report. I believe the first 911-caller on the freeway reported this as what appeared to be going on in the moving vehicle. But to twist it to make it seem to be verifiable fact is irresponsible.
If you've read any of MKC on cleveland.com- she's been on a anti-Johnny rampage. I wouldn't be upset if the PD sent her packing.
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Report: Cleveland Browns Actively Trying to Trade Johnny Manziel
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Report: Cleveland Browns Actively Trying to Trade Johnny Manziel
Zombo said:
Report: Cleveland Browns Actively Trying to Trade Johnny Manziel
Rizzo is not the most credible guy when it comes to stirring up rumors.
I don't think we'd have to try that hard to trade him, Dallas would love him - but what we'd get in return is questionable.
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Just listened to Pett's presser.
A. He's dumb for letting the questions drag on so long. Make a statement. Answer a couple questions. Then say "that's all I have to say on that." Repeat answer every time a Johnny question is asked. Walk out of the presser of the reporters don't move on. It's pretty simple.
B. Given A, it's pretty easy to see why Pettine was so annoyed (and he really wasn't THAT annoyed). It looked to me like he was more annoyed by the fact that the media wouldn't shut up than him being annoyed that we're talking about Johnny again.
Yes, Pettine did say "if any other guy had done this, would we be talking about this the entire time?" (Paraphrase). That could either mean he thinks it's no big deal and is being blown out of proportion. Or that could mean that Pettine is annoyed that Johnny's "johnnyness," if you will, just ruined his press conference. You could sell me either way.
Personally, when people asked why Johnny didn't get the treatment that our OL coach received given that there were allegations Johnny hit her, it really felt to me like Pettine wanted to be like "look everyone, Colleen is a dumb idiot. The only marks she had were from Johnny trying to keep her in the car. The cops let Johnny walk. There was no issue. The girl is BSC. Stop wasting my time with the comparison." But that's just my read.
C. Pettine was completely and unequivocally complimentary of Johnny's work in the locker room and on the field this year. Said he has been an "A+ in the building." I really don't think he goes out of the way to take up for the kid in that manner if they're planning on, or even thinking about, cutting him.
Just listened to Pett's presser.
A. He's dumb for letting the questions drag on so long.
B. Given A, it's pretty easy to see why Pettine was so annoyed (and he really wasn't THAT annoyed).
A. That's not Pet. Some of the questions were from different angles and deserved an answer, even if it ended up in part being "not going to get into that."
B. Agree... not all that annoyed... at least not for the first 10 minutes or so. But the question about the locker room not being held accountable clearly stunned and hurt him. He fought to believe it was not true, and it likely is not true, but it hurt. After this and by the end of the JM segment, however, he was annoyed. His sarcasm in reaction to finally being asked a game question showed it. From there it quickly faded.
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