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  • C Clevfan4life

    Orchards been playing, remains to be seen if he pans out. He hasn't impressed me yet. He has less dynamic pass rushing skills than Kruger. The guy who disappointed me Sunday was Armonty. Like he wasn't coming off the ball explosive at all and wasn't really doing any kind of moves when he met the blocker. Almost looked like he's dinged up again.

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    B browns52 wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Orchards been playing, remains to be seen if he pans out. He hasn't impressed me yet. He has less dynamic pass rushing skills than Kruger. The guy who disappointed me Sunday was Armonty. Like he wasn't coming off the ball explosive at all and wasn't really doing any kind of moves when he met the blocker. Almost looked like he's dinged up again.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Orchards been playing, remains to be seen if he pans out. He hasn't impressed me yet. He has less dynamic pass rushing skills than Kruger. The guy who disappointed me Sunday was Armonty. Like he wasn't coming off the ball explosive at all and wasn't really doing any kind of moves when he met the blocker. Almost looked like he's dinged up again.

    armonty needs to go..he stinks...he really does...

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      @clevfan4life said:

      Orchards been playing, remains to be seen if he pans out. He hasn't impressed me yet. He has less dynamic pass rushing skills than Kruger. The guy who disappointed me Sunday was Armonty. Like he wasn't coming off the ball explosive at all and wasn't really doing any kind of moves when he met the blocker. Almost looked like he's dinged up again.

      @clevfan4life said:

      Orchards been playing, remains to be seen if he pans out. He hasn't impressed me yet. He has less dynamic pass rushing skills than Kruger. The guy who disappointed me Sunday was Armonty. Like he wasn't coming off the ball explosive at all and wasn't really doing any kind of moves when he met the blocker. Almost looked like he's dinged up again.

      armonty needs to go..he stinks...he really does...

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      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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      @browns52 said:

      armonty needs to go..he stinks...he really does...

      I had high hopes for him before he got hurt last year.

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        B browns23 wrote on last edited by
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        Not really sure why we would get rid of our leading pass rusher (Armonty). I could see Kruger and Solomon who have brought us a grand total of 0.5 sacks this year.

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          medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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          Well we only had 1 int before the game Sunday and we came up with 3, The sacks will come. Our D looks to be coming together.

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            Orchard and Cooper were good draft picks. Play them before the season is lost. Play them

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            Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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            @opal312 said:

            Orchard and Cooper were good draft picks. Play them before the season is lost. Play them

            Exactly. We shuffle players in and out constantly, there's no continuity at all. Nobody gets a feel for the game,it's stupid.

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              @opal312 said:

              Orchard and Cooper were good draft picks. Play them before the season is lost. Play them

              Exactly. We shuffle players in and out constantly, there's no continuity at all. Nobody gets a feel for the game,it's stupid.

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              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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              @bob806 said:

              Exactly. We shuffle players in and out constantly, there's no continuity at all. Nobody gets a feel for the game,it's stupid.

              This is stupid. were short handed at DB's playing shorthanded & expect them to cover far to long. Than we run sideline sprints with 300 lb'ers all game that can't get 10 yrds. to a QB. Stick with your best talent on D & stop guessing the next play called.

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                jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                Ya know, when it comes to Peyton Manning, normally I would say that he has such good control of his offense, and knows defenses so well that it's difficult to sack him. But not now. There were MANY TIMES when he was sitting back in the pocket all damn day, and we couldn't even sniff his Papa John's Pizza breath. And it's not like this is a problem that only surfaced against the Broncos. We had ONE game where we got good pressure, and that was against a rookie who held onto the ball WAY too long. Most of the Titans sacks weren't because we did something right, they came because the rookie didn't know what he was doing.

                I have no idea what's wrong with our pass rush, I only know that it appears that OUR QUARTERBACK has about zero damn time to find someone, and opposing quarterbacks sit back there all day and pick us apart. Heck, the one sack we had against Flacco came because he freaking tripped. Paul Kruger looks VERY slow this year, and he's not getting home. I realize the Broncos are the best, but they usually rushed four people and were getting pressure, and if they brought more, we were totally screwed. Our team was supposed to be built on defense. Our coach was supposed to be good at creating schemes. Nothing, and I mean nothing is working out. Yeah, we got three turnovers last game, but we obviously still lost the game (The Colts game from last year come to mind?)

                I don't have any answers, I only know that I'm so angry...more than I have been in a long time. I absolutely HATE blowing a team up and starting over. As a fan, it's the worst. But what are we supposed to hope for? That our coach will somehow figure something out on defense? That he will magically come up with the right idea of how to actually stop the run? We don't set the edge, and we never have. I have no clue what will happen this season, but it sure feels like this last game may have taken it out of our team. That loss combined with the Johnny crap...makes it feel that we're spiraling down the rabbit hole of frustration, incompetence, and failure.

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                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                  I agree with everyone that says we are shuttling the front seven in and out too much.

                  Players aren't getting into flow if the game and the 300 lbers are already gassed when they line up against linemen who play every snap yet are not gassed.

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                    medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                    The Panthers only have 3 more total sacks than we do and what is their record? Our D is coming together. I seen good things this last game. And with the win @ Baltimore

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                      The Panthers only have 3 more total sacks than we do and what is their record? Our D is coming together. I seen good things this last game. And with the win @ Baltimore

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      @medicineman said:

                      The Panthers only have 3 more total sacks than we do and what is their record? Our D is coming together. I seen good things this last game. And with the win @ Baltimore

                      what's the Panthers hurry stats? without knowing for sure i'm gonna assume they're around the QB a lot more than we are. I will give some of the credit to manning, he was getting rid of the ball quick so our rush did't have time to get there. But we do have some serious skill deficiencies on the edge..of that there is no question. Our edge guys just are not that capable. None of them need either double teamed or chipped, even against 2nd stringers.

                      Kruger for one has been completely nerfed from the weight they dropped off him since his days at Blt. First with Horton than with Oneil. He's just not that explosive anymore. He's not a 3-4 OLB'er.

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                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                        We have 10 sacks, but 7 of them were in the Titans game.

                        3 Sacks in the other 5 games ....

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                        Apparently, the key to getting sacks is to start Manziel at QB.

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          drafting a blue chip monster bull rushing DE or MLB might be a good thing to do along with maybe a tall big WR.

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                            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                            Kind of surprised this isn't a thread full of ballsacks.

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                              drafting a blue chip monster bull rushing DE or MLB might be a good thing to do along with maybe a tall big WR.

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              @miktoxic said:

                              drafting a blue chip monster bull rushing DE

                              I got someone in mind. ​

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                                medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                                Let me guess who you have in mind, Some Buckeye?

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                                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                  well if you're from and a fan of an ohio team you'd prob want bosa.

                                  or someone from toledo, kent state, bgsu, ohio u, akron etc. etc.

                                  but in realization how come the browns never draft in-state? meanwhile the steelers love these guys.

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                                    Reggie Ragland may be right there when we pick. He is a true stud with 3-4 experience and more experience against pro-style teams than most.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                      OLBs are where it's at...

                                      ... and, yes, I have two turntables and a microphone...

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                                        W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                        Yeah I agree. Need to find one. I actually don't hate our ILBs as much as most, just responding to Mik.

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                                          OLBs are where it's at...

                                          ... and, yes, I have two turntables and a microphone...

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                                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          ... and, yes, I have two turntables and a microphone...

                                          on the wheels of steel. tour spinnin and rhyming.

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