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How much does Obama want to stay in power?

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  • Mr. T Mr. TM
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    Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by Mr. T
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    A man who hates capatalism.

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      A man who hates capatalism.

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      @mr.-t said:

      A man who hates capatalism.

      Instead of adding more garbage, would you care to address my concerns about your previous trash??

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        Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party

        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=78945

        That is World Net fcuking Daily quoting WHAT exactly??

        Come on. This is not a source. Sorry.

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        Obama Was Endorsed by American Socialist Party

        http://www.nobamanation.com/ObamaEndorsedBySocialists.html

        So? That's terrible logic, T.

        The Klan endorsed Bush, but that doesn't make him a Klansman.

        http://www.romulus2.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=93722

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        mz. said:

        That is World Net fcuking Daily quoting WHAT exactly??

        Come on. This is not a source. Sorry.

        So? That's terrible logic, T.

        The Klan endorsed Bush, but that doesn't make him a Klansman.

        http://www.romulus2.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=93722

        "Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency," he wrote.

        In Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father," he repeatedly refers to his friend and adviser as "Frank."

        The mysterious "Frank" cited as a friend and adviser by Democratic president contender Barack Obama while he was growing up in Hawaii has been identified as Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.

        The identification comes from Cliff Kincaid in his column, "Obama's Communist Mentor," which was made available on the Accuracy in Media website.

        "Let's challenge the liberal media to report on this," he wrote in his column. "Will they have the honesty and integrity to do so?"

        Kincaid, who earlier reported on Obama's pending plan to ship $845 billion overseas to battle "global poverty" as evidence of his socialist leanings, said the newly revealed connection is even more worrisome.

        Isn't it a shame that men in power would or will starve their country in order to make them submit to them?

        Here is an article from the right wing mz the pussy, so it may not be to credible for you. Sometimes we need to read everything. I read the Ft Wayne Post, Sorry but KKK guys suck and most are Ignorant, so I allready discredited their claims.

        View from the right

        http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012526.html

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          mz. said:

          That is World Net fcuking Daily quoting WHAT exactly??

          Come on. This is not a source. Sorry.

          So? That's terrible logic, T.

          The Klan endorsed Bush, but that doesn't make him a Klansman.

          http://www.romulus2.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=93722

          "Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency," he wrote.

          In Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father," he repeatedly refers to his friend and adviser as "Frank."

          The mysterious "Frank" cited as a friend and adviser by Democratic president contender Barack Obama while he was growing up in Hawaii has been identified as Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA.

          The identification comes from Cliff Kincaid in his column, "Obama's Communist Mentor," which was made available on the Accuracy in Media website.

          "Let's challenge the liberal media to report on this," he wrote in his column. "Will they have the honesty and integrity to do so?"

          Kincaid, who earlier reported on Obama's pending plan to ship $845 billion overseas to battle "global poverty" as evidence of his socialist leanings, said the newly revealed connection is even more worrisome.

          Isn't it a shame that men in power would or will starve their country in order to make them submit to them?

          Here is an article from the right wing mz the pussy, so it may not be to credible for you. Sometimes we need to read everything. I read the Ft Wayne Post, Sorry but KKK guys suck and most are Ignorant, so I allready discredited their claims.

          View from the right

          http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012526.html

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          @mr.-t said:

          Sorry but KKK guys suck and most are Ignorant, so I allready discredited their claims.

          You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

          How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

          If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

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            @mr.-t said:

            Sorry but KKK guys suck and most are Ignorant, so I allready discredited their claims.

            You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

            How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

            If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

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            mz. said:

            You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

            How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

            If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

            Okay kkk guys that endorsed Bush Not that Big of a deal I am sure he dosn't wear a pointed hood and is out burning crosses. But what bothers me is that when the communist party USA endorses our president, when it is well known that he is and has studied abroad socialism along with communism with his mentor Frank in Hawaii. It is disturbing to watch how he has not done anything but throw gas on the fire while fanning the flames of this ressesion we are in.

            Obama Is Endorsed By Former Klansman http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-i...former-klansman

            socialist who endorsed Obama

            The Communist Party USA’s emergency program to repair, renew and rebuild America is a contribution toward this effort. . . .

            http://iperceive.net/communist-party-usa-p...endorses-obama/

            Now to get back to Cals subject, How do feel about leaders who starve the people into submission?

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              @mr.-t said:

              Sorry but KKK guys suck and most are Ignorant, so I allready discredited their claims.

              You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

              How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

              If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

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              mz. said:

              You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

              How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

              If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

              If I may, what I think T is infering from his post where he mentions Obama's Book Dreams.. is in regards to referencing Frank Marshall Davis as an adviser.

              The difference in Bush's memoirs (assuming he were capable of writing them) would be the lack of acknowledgment of David Duke as an adviser.

              I don't think it's so much that the socialist party endorses Obama, or that the KKK endorses Bush, but that at some point in Barry's history, he's considered a Socialist as an adviser - is the point T is trying to make.

              Rather than compare to Bush & the Klan, perhaps a comparison should be drawn to Robert Byrd & the Klan. I think that is your SAT best answer.

              I also think the notion of any of it, is ridiculous.

              Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                @mr.-t said:

                Sorry but KKK guys suck and most are Ignorant, so I allready discredited their claims.

                You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

                How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

                If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

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                mz. said:

                You don't get it, so I'll ask it differently.

                How is some Socialist group endorsing Obama any different than some KKK group endorsing Bush??

                If they endorse Bush, and we agree Bush is not a Klan member, how does this differ from the Obama situation??

                Actually they didn't, even if you're trying to equate the Socialist party with the Klan.

                (which is ridiculous)

                The Klan hates Bush.

                Why?

                Immigraton and fighting in Iraq "at the behest of the Jewish lobby."

                They supported Cindy Sheehan for that reason.

                ps Vermont actually elected a socialist representative, he may now have switched to another party.

                ahem...

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                • Mr. T Mr. TM
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                  Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                  Oh I do get it mz the pussy, and I do understand the nature of the question. Thanks Leg & Steve for your replies.

                  Bush & Obama alike are not members of the kkk, But we have shown in threads before that Obama used to be a member of the socialist party here in the United states, But trying to find this information on google or wikipedia anymore is hard since Obama has taken office most of the search engines have been sanatized. I would challenge anyone to take a crack at it, I currently dont have the time.

                  But I still hav not seen a reply from the lefty supporters on this question...... How do feel about leaders who starve the people into submission?

                  In Moscow, Stalin responded to their unyielding defiance by dictating a policy that would deliberately cause mass starvation and result in the deaths of millions.

                  By mid 1932, nearly 75 percent of the farms in the Ukraine had been forcibly collectivized. On Stalin's orders, mandatory quotas of foodstuffs to be shipped out to the Soviet Union were drastically increased in August, October and again in January 1933, until there was simply no food remaining to feed the people of the Ukraine.

                  Much of the hugely abundant wheat crop harvested by the Ukrainians that year was dumped on the foreign market to generate cash to aid Stalin's Five Year Plan for the modernization of the Soviet Union and also to help finance his massive military buildup. If the wheat had remained in the Ukraine, it was estimated to have been enough to feed all of the people there for up to two years.

                  Ukrainian Communists urgently appealed to Moscow for a reduction in the grain quotas and also asked for emergency food aid. Stalin responded by denouncing them and rushed in over 100,000 fiercely loyal Russian soldiers to purge the Ukrainian Communist Party. The Soviets then sealed off the borders of the Ukraine, preventing any food from entering, in effect turning the country into a gigantic concentration camp. Soviet police troops inside the Ukraine also went house to house seizing any stored up food, leaving farm families without a morsel. All food was considered to be the "sacred" property of the State. Anyone caught stealing State property, even an ear of corn or stubble of wheat, could be shot or imprisoned for not less than ten years.

                  Starvation quickly ensued throughout the Ukraine, with the most vulnerable, children and the elderly, first feeling the effects of malnutrition. The once-smiling young faces of children vanished forever amid the constant pain of hunger. It gnawed away at their bellies, which became grossly swollen, while their arms and legs became like sticks as they slowly starved to death.

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                    This was sent to me, and what was done to the Ukraine is accurate.

                    To ask about Obama doing the same would be ridiculous, I admit.

                    But the POINT is:

                    Obama has VOTED to raise the gun registration fee %500 percent to use $$$$$$$

                    as a weapon.

                    Obama SAID he would raise the fees and fines on coal producers so high, they

                    can continue doing their biz, but they will go broke. Another example of using $$$$

                    as a weapon vs something he wants to get rid of.

                    But despite the fact that using economics as a weapon has been used devastatingly on a

                    drastic scale in the distance past,

                    it is alarming to see Obama's intentions to "restructure" our entire economy (what he SAID),

                    and his ideas on interferring with the farming industry...

                    on a very small scale. so far, of the same kind of use of economics as a weapon.

                    "redistribution of wealth" is not far removed from "redistribution food grown by farmers"....

                    Is it?

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                      hmmm ,hmmm, hmm....

                      Well.... IS IT?

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