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  • @canton-mike said:

    Too many immediate needs to waste a 3rd or higher on Cardale, but that's just my opinion.

    Mike

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    Cardale is a long way from being a franchise QB

  • "Dane Brugler, an NFL Draft analyst for CBSSports.com, said that thoughts of Jones losing NFL money this year are overblown, because in the eyes of the NFL, Jones is simply the same player he was at the end of last year.

    "I think he looks like the exact same player, and I think that's what NFL scouts see on tape as well -- a player who's still very raw," Brugler told Northeast Ohio Media Group on Tuesday night. "The physical traits are outstanding, but from a maturity standpoint as a passer, he's just still very unpolished and he's not really progressing at the rate you would want to see.""

    Looks like most NFL scouts haven't given up on Cardilly

    @columbusking said:

    "Dane Brugler, an NFL Draft analyst for CBSSports.com, said that thoughts of Jones losing NFL money this year are overblown, because in the eyes of the NFL, Jones is simply the same player he was at the end of last year.

    "I think he looks like the exact same player, and I think that's what NFL scouts see on tape as well -- a player who's still very raw," Brugler told Northeast Ohio Media Group on Tuesday night. "The physical traits are outstanding, but from a maturity standpoint as a passer, he's just still very unpolished and he's not really progressing at the rate you would want to see.""

    Looks like most NFL scouts haven't given up on Cardilly

    Spoken like your true Avitar..

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    Cardale is a long way from being a franchise QB

    @canton-mike said:

    Cardale is a long way from being a franchise QB

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise qb?

  • Hackenberg is terrible. He was graded the worst QB in D1 last year by PFF. The absolute worst. The hype is based on his recruiting ranking, size, starting as a true fish, and playing in a pro system. That's about it. Hell even I got sucked into it.

    Tour, I'm no QB scout but I don't see any sort of Russell Wilson with Prescott at all.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    Cardale is a long way from being a franchise QB

    @canton-mike said:

    Cardale is a long way from being a franchise QB

    and alot closer to being a Retard.....IMO.

  • Two guys Im keeping an eye on are Paxton Lynch from Memphis and Carson Wentz from North Dakota St.

  • "Dane Brugler, an NFL Draft analyst for CBSSports.com, said that thoughts of Jones losing NFL money this year are overblown, because in the eyes of the NFL, Jones is simply the same player he was at the end of last year.

    "I think he looks like the exact same player, and I think that's what NFL scouts see on tape as well -- a player who's still very raw," Brugler told Northeast Ohio Media Group on Tuesday night. "The physical traits are outstanding, but from a maturity standpoint as a passer, he's just still very unpolished and he's not really progressing at the rate you would want to see.""

    Looks like most NFL scouts haven't given up on Cardilly

    @columbusking said:

    "Dane Brugler, an NFL Draft analyst for CBSSports.com, said that thoughts of Jones losing NFL money this year are overblown, because in the eyes of the NFL, Jones is simply the same player he was at the end of last year.

    "I think he looks like the exact same player, and I think that's what NFL scouts see on tape as well -- a player who's still very raw," Brugler told Northeast Ohio Media Group on Tuesday night. "The physical traits are outstanding, but from a maturity standpoint as a passer, he's just still very unpolished and he's not really progressing at the rate you would want to see.""

    Looks like most NFL scouts haven't given up on Cardilly

    That's what you got from that? I don't know about others but it reads to me like "he wasn't really good last year, and hasn't really progressed this year"

  • Kevin Hogan please

  • @columbusking said:

    "Dane Brugler, an NFL Draft analyst for CBSSports.com, said that thoughts of Jones losing NFL money this year are overblown, because in the eyes of the NFL, Jones is simply the same player he was at the end of last year.

    "I think he looks like the exact same player, and I think that's what NFL scouts see on tape as well -- a player who's still very raw," Brugler told Northeast Ohio Media Group on Tuesday night. "The physical traits are outstanding, but from a maturity standpoint as a passer, he's just still very unpolished and he's not really progressing at the rate you would want to see.""

    Looks like most NFL scouts haven't given up on Cardilly

    That's what you got from that? I don't know about others but it reads to me like "he wasn't really good last year, and hasn't really progressed this year"

    @gftchris said:

    That's what you got from that? I don't know about others but it reads to me like "he wasn't really good last year, and hasn't really progressed this year"

    Well further into the article it says last year Cardale was the 3rd best QB in the draft, which means he would have been taken in the 3rd Round, This year the same scout says Cardale is still the 4th best QB in the upcoming draft.

  • @gftchris said:

    That's what you got from that? I don't know about others but it reads to me like "he wasn't really good last year, and hasn't really progressed this year"

    Well further into the article it says last year Cardale was the 3rd best QB in the draft, which means he would have been taken in the 3rd Round, This year the same scout says Cardale is still the 4th best QB in the upcoming draft.

    @columbusking said:

    Well further into the article it says last year Cardale was the 3rd best QB in the draft, which means he would have been taken in the 3rd Round,

    Really?......1 QB per round?.....I think most years the top 3 QB's are gonna easily be gone in the first......

  • @columbusking said:

    Well further into the article it says last year Cardale was the 3rd best QB in the draft, which means he would have been taken in the 3rd Round,

    Really?......1 QB per round?.....I think most years the top 3 QB's are gonna easily be gone in the first......

    @mudfly said:

    Really?......1 QB per round?.....I think most years the top 3 QB's are gonna easily be gone in the first......

    Just look at last years draft, the 3rd QB taken was taken in the 3rd Round. MOST years the top 3 QBs are taken quicker but we are talking about LAST YEAR not most years.

  • @mudfly said:

    Really?......1 QB per round?.....I think most years the top 3 QB's are gonna easily be gone in the first......

    Just look at last years draft, the 3rd QB taken was taken in the 3rd Round. MOST years the top 3 QBs are taken quicker but we are talking about LAST YEAR not most years.

    @columbusking said:

    Just look at last years draft, the 3rd QB taken was taken in the 3rd Round. MOST years the top 3 QBs are taken quicker but we are talking about LAST YEAR not most years.

    Gotcha.....didnt read it that way, but can see it now....😉

  • Being how I hate running QBs this'll get me razzed big time, but one QB I like is Dak Prescott.

    Loved his guts and his size the last couple years, but not much else. This year the twice I've seen him, it looks like:

    - his mechanics are vastly improved;

    - his running is down; and

    - he's taking much better care of the ball... yet to throw an INT this season.

    Comparisons are dangerous, but he has the look of a bigger Russell Wilson.

    There is another QB that impressed me one game I happened upon, but I'll be damned if I can remember who or where... Wasn't any of the "name" QBs...

    @tour2ma said:

    Being how I hate running QBs this'll get me razzed big time, but one QB I like is Dak Prescott.

    Loved his guts and his size the last couple years, but not much else. This year the twice I've seen him, it looks like:

    - his mechanics are vastly improved;

    - his running is down; and

    - he's taking much better care of the ball... yet to throw an INT this season.

    Comparisons are dangerous, but he has the look of a bigger Russell Wilson.

    There is another QB that impressed me one game I happened upon, but I'll be damned if I can remember who or where... Wasn't any of the "name" QBs...

    How about Lynch? is it from Memphis St. Has them undefeated. A lot a people are looking at him.

  • @canton-mike said:

    Too many immediate needs to waste a 3rd or higher on Cardale, but that's just my opinion.

    Mike

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    We need a nasty OLB who scares the offense. I'd pick an Eric Turner type as well and just keep going with McCown at QB for another year.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    What's two positions we need more than a franchise quarterback?

    We need a nasty OLB who scares the offense. I'd pick an Eric Turner type as well and just keep going with McCown at QB for another year.

    @mark-o said:

    We need a nasty OLB who scares the offense. I'd pick an Eric Turner type as well and just keep going with McCown at QB for another year.

    Turner was a Strong Safety I believe. How do you judge if someone is "nasty"......unless they have like the names of Butkus or Tatum or Lott or Nitschke on their back.

  • @mark-o said:

    We need a nasty OLB who scares the offense. I'd pick an Eric Turner type as well and just keep going with McCown at QB for another year.

    Turner was a Strong Safety I believe. How do you judge if someone is "nasty"......unless they have like the names of Butkus or Tatum or Lott or Nitschke on their back.

    @the-gipper said:

    Turner was a Strong Safety I believe. How do you judge if someone is "nasty"......unless they have like the names of Butkus or Tatum or Lott or Nitschke on their back.

    yes....LB and Safety are two positions I think are more of need than QB at this point. We need players in those 2 positions that scare the opposition offense. Guys that the QB comes to line and has to look to see where they are before they snap the ball.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Turner was a Strong Safety I believe. How do you judge if someone is "nasty"......unless they have like the names of Butkus or Tatum or Lott or Nitschke on their back.

    yes....LB and Safety are two positions I think are more of need than QB at this point. We need players in those 2 positions that scare the opposition offense. Guys that the QB comes to line and has to look to see where they are before they snap the ball.

    @mark-o said:

    yes....LB and Safety are two positions I think are more of need than QB at this point. We need players in those 2 positions that scare the opposition offense. Guys that the QB comes to line and has to look to see where they are before they snap the ball.

    That works fine for me.

    Are you saying that none of our LBs and none of our Safeties have those attributes?

    Of course, the rules prohibit a lot of the "nastiness" that used to be exhibited by LBs and Safeties. You have to think of that as a factor.

  • @mark-o said:

    yes....LB and Safety are two positions I think are more of need than QB at this point. We need players in those 2 positions that scare the opposition offense. Guys that the QB comes to line and has to look to see where they are before they snap the ball.

    That works fine for me.

    Are you saying that none of our LBs and none of our Safeties have those attributes?

    Of course, the rules prohibit a lot of the "nastiness" that used to be exhibited by LBs and Safeties. You have to think of that as a factor.

    @the-gipper said:

    That works fine for me.

    Are you saying that none of our LBs and none of our Safeties have those attributes?

    Of course, the rules prohibit a lot of the "nastiness" that used to be exhibited by LBs and Safeties. You have to think of that as a factor.

    I don't think they really do at this point.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Being how I hate running QBs this'll get me razzed big time, but one QB I like is Dak Prescott.

    Loved his guts and his size the last couple years, but not much else. This year the twice I've seen him, it looks like:

    - his mechanics are vastly improved;

    - his running is down; and

    - he's taking much better care of the ball... yet to throw an INT this season.

    Comparisons are dangerous, but he has the look of a bigger Russell Wilson.

    There is another QB that impressed me one game I happened upon, but I'll be damned if I can remember who or where... Wasn't any of the "name" QBs...

    How about Lynch? is it from Memphis St. Has them undefeated. A lot a people are looking at him.

    I think we're OK at Safety... and to a degree intimidating Safeties have been legislated out of the game.

    OLB? No... we are not near where we need to be.

    @the-gipper said:

    How about Lynch? is it from Memphis St. Has them undefeated. A lot a people are looking at him.

    Haven't seen Memphis St. this year...

    I knew at the time I should have written the name down.

  • Lynch plays for Memphis. They just destroyed Ole Miss