The Final Solution?
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john i love it all. alice cooper, gabriel and bowie could've been categorized as glam in the 70s and 80s but were some of the best songwriters to ever grace this planet.
difference of opinions. didn't get into the whole hair band thing but there were some classics that came out of that group that you'll sing along to when the jukebox is pumping down at the corner bodega gettin the last 40 oz staggering back to the love shack.
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Of the 5 you mentioned, only Motley Crue qualifies as bona fide gay. You know what I am talking about. Those LA bands from the mid 80s that wrote crap and cashed in. Guns could actually rock.
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Zombo said:
Of the 5 you mentioned, only Motley Crue qualifies as bona fide gay. You know what I am talking about. Those LA bands from the mid 80s that wrote crap and cashed in. Guns could actually rock.
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Oh no you din'dt! Shame on you! Just because a group of guys wear more make up and lacy frilly shit than most chicks does not mean they're gay.
Or maybe it does. Helliphino. But Kick Start My Heart? Dr. Feelgood? Looks That Kill? Come on!
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iron maiden, motorhead, motley crue, guns and roses, aerosmith gay.
pearl jam, soundgarden, screaming trees, alice in chains not gay?
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I want this thread to end, because this title, plus the constant playing of the Geico commericial combine to never let this Gayass song out of my head:
Zombo said:
I want this thread to end, because this title, plus the constant playing of the Geico commericial combine to never let this Gayass song out of my head:
You may be correct here though. Something about the hairspray to keyboard ratio with this song.
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What in fucking hell does all this have to do with QB prospects? Or maybe you think these guys come out of a hair band:
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Our boy Josh is coming close to rockin' it Hitler Youth style though
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I guess a Thread called "The Final Solution" had to end up here, fair to say. Here is another spitting image of Josh McCown:
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lol... and I feel shame...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No, this thread is not about The Holocaust.....but about 2016 NFL draft prospects. Specifically: Quarterbacks.
Do any of these float your boat?:
3 Jared Goff QB 1 California Jr 6-4 210 1 10
Connor Cook QB 2 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220 1 45
Cardale Jones QB 3 Ohio State rJr 6-5 250 2 48
Christian Hackenberg QB 4 Penn State Jr 6-4 236 2 66
Gunner Kiel
QB 5 Cincinnati rJr 6-4 208 2-3 75Joshua Dobbs QB 6 Tennessee Jr 6-3 212 2-3 85
Dak Prescott QB 7 Mississippi State rSr 6-2 230 3 89
Carson Wentz QB 8 North Dakota State Sr 6-5 231 3 101
Brandon Doughty QB 9 Western Kentucky rSr 6-3 216 3-4 117
Cody Kessler QB 10 Southern California rSr 6-1 215 3-4 157
Nate Sudfeld QB 11 Indiana Sr 6-6 240 4-5 173
Kevin Hogan QB 12 Stanford rSr 6-4 225 5 201
Jacoby Brissett QB 13 NC State rSr 6-3 235 5-6 213
Trevone Boykin QB 14 TCU rSr 6-1 205 6 230
Blake Frohnapfel QB 15 Massachusetts rSr 6-6 230 6-7 237
Mike Bercovici QB 16 Arizona State rSr 6-0 205 6-7 270
Vad Lee QB 17 James Madison rSr 6-1 225 7-FA 280
Taysom Hill
QB 18 Brigham Young Sr 6-2 232 7-FA 285Jeff Driskel QB 19 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-4 234 7-FA 303
Travis Wilson QB 20 Utah Sr 6-7 233 7-FA 359
Max Wittek QB 21 Hawaii rSr 6-3 240 –– 369
Matt Johnson QB 22 Bowling Green rSr 6-0 221 –– 381
Vernon Adams Jr. QB 23 Oregon rSr 5-11 205 –– 397
Jake Coker QB 24 Alabama rSr 6-5 232 –– 409
John Robertson
QB 25 Villanova rSr 6-1 221 ––No, this thread is not about The Holocaust.....but about 2016 NFL draft prospects. Specifically: Quarterbacks.
Do any of these float your boat?:
3 Jared Goff QB 1 California Jr 6-4 210 1 10
Connor Cook QB 2 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220 1 45
Cardale Jones QB 3 Ohio State rJr 6-5 250 2 48
Christian Hackenberg QB 4 Penn State Jr 6-4 236 2 66
Gunner Kiel
QB 5 Cincinnati rJr 6-4 208 2-3 75Joshua Dobbs QB 6 Tennessee Jr 6-3 212 2-3 85
Dak Prescott QB 7 Mississippi State rSr 6-2 230 3 89
Carson Wentz QB 8 North Dakota State Sr 6-5 231 3 101
Brandon Doughty QB 9 Western Kentucky rSr 6-3 216 3-4 117
Cody Kessler QB 10 Southern California rSr 6-1 215 3-4 157
Nate Sudfeld QB 11 Indiana Sr 6-6 240 4-5 173
Kevin Hogan QB 12 Stanford rSr 6-4 225 5 201
Jacoby Brissett QB 13 NC State rSr 6-3 235 5-6 213
Trevone Boykin QB 14 TCU rSr 6-1 205 6 230
Blake Frohnapfel QB 15 Massachusetts rSr 6-6 230 6-7 237
Mike Bercovici QB 16 Arizona State rSr 6-0 205 6-7 270
Vad Lee QB 17 James Madison rSr 6-1 225 7-FA 280
Taysom Hill
QB 18 Brigham Young Sr 6-2 232 7-FA 285Jeff Driskel QB 19 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-4 234 7-FA 303
Travis Wilson QB 20 Utah Sr 6-7 233 7-FA 359
Max Wittek QB 21 Hawaii rSr 6-3 240 –– 369
Matt Johnson QB 22 Bowling Green rSr 6-0 221 –– 381
Vernon Adams Jr. QB 23 Oregon rSr 5-11 205 –– 397
Jake Coker QB 24 Alabama rSr 6-5 232 –– 409
John Robertson
QB 25 Villanova rSr 6-1 221 ––Definitely's:
Connor Cook
Paxton Lynch
Maybe's:
Max Wittek
Cody Kessler
Gunnar Kiel
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In all likelihood, Paxton Lynch may get the Christian Ponder treatment and go in the first round. This will probably kill his NFL career, because he is not a day one starter by any means. Let me be clear, I am in no way advocating that we take Lynch in the first round. However, I think he has a great framework of intangibles as well as the right physical frame to be a good NFL QB.
I couldn't tell you his stats offhand - I prefer it that way, because I believe looking at a prospect's stats before analyzing their play gives the viewer a skewed look. So my analysis is solely based off of what I'm seeing on the field. And what I see on the field is that Lynch just has "it". He is clearly the leader of that offense, he is not overwhelmed with the playbook, he is always attempting to move the ball downfield even when a play is broken, and he knows where his guys are.
Lynch, in my opinion, is being horribly misused in Memphis and is still managing to play decently well. To me, Lynch's strengths lie in his ability to work the pocket and recognize open players when under duress. Those are two things he is unflinchingly talented at. However, Memphis has him oftentimes throwing on the run, rolling the pocket to the left and to the right to buy him time, which exploits his biggest weakness - his accuracy on the run.
When Lynch executes what I call an "real" play - a play that you'd actually see an NFL QB run on Sundays - his talent is apparent. Clean drop back, work up the pocket, pick his receiver and strike...that's where Lynch excels. Under duress, he works back up the pocket, then out, identifying an open man...that is also where Lynch excels. However, the disconnect lies in his ability to accurately deliver the ball on the move...that's where he fails.
As for his physical strength, Lynch has what scouts call an "active arm" - that is, his balls have some mustard on them. (That is the weirdest sentence I have ever typed). Lynch has exhibited the ability to make throws that would make even Tom Brady cream in his pants. Conversely, Lynch also throws some of the ugliest passes I have ever seen. As I stated before, his throws tend to be a hell of a lot nicer when he's executing a "real" play.
In my eyes, Lynch is a great second or third round prospect. He needs to be thrown in QB school, but the intangibles are there, the physicality is there, and the talent is there. Lynch would be a GREAT backup to McCown for a year (or two).
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Mel Kiper moved Lynch up to the #2 QB in the next draft behind Goff. But I think he can come back for a another year after this season.
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Mel Kiper moved Lynch up to the #2 QB in the next draft behind Goff. But I think he can come back for a another year after this season.
Mel Kiper moved Lynch up to the #2 QB in the next draft behind Goff. But I think he can come back for a another year after this season.
And it's shit like that that kills QB's. Mel Kiper is the worst thing in the world when it comes to evaluating talent correctly. He arbitrarily inflates the stock of prospects according to absolutely nothing, and then it ruins the careers of players - especially quarterbacks.
EJ Manuel would have likely been a great "project" QB. Kyle Boller too. But Kiper just blows them up all out of proportion in order to say he was there first and to capitalize on the hype, and then these guys go WELL ahead of where they actually should go because a trigger-happy GM is afraid of missing out. Then these guys get thrown into the fire immediately and collapse like a flan in a cupboard under all of the pressure, and are crapped out of the league in 5 years.
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Sound like Lynch is already a Tannehill type, draft riser... I haven't seen him yet.
Can't fault Kiper though for agreeing with you, TC. Not Kiper's fault if a GM goes crazy. Also no rule that says a #1 can't sit and learn... even if you already have one of those. Not exactly the road less traveled, but it's a way teams can still go.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sound like Lynch is already a Tannehill type, draft riser... I haven't seen him yet.
Can't fault Kiper though for agreeing with you, TC. Not Kiper's fault if a GM goes crazy. Also no rule that says a #1 can't sit and learn... even if you already have one of those. Not exactly the road less traveled, but it's a way teams can still go.
Pretty sure he was playin on ESPN when you typed this haha. Looked pretty damn good too.Sound like Lynch is already a Tannehill type, draft riser... I haven't seen him yet.
Can't fault Kiper though for agreeing with you, TC. Not Kiper's fault if a GM goes crazy. Also no rule that says a #1 can't sit and learn... even if you already have one of those. Not exactly the road less traveled, but it's a way teams can still go.
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