STALLWORTH UPDATE

Oldcrow1945

@oldcrow1945 said:
I just used an online calculator for DUI testing. I don't know if they vary or not. But this calculator said that a 200 lb male drinking ten 12 ounce beers over a 6 hour period will blow .13
I don't drink much at all and I weigh 200 lbs. If I drink 10 in 6 hours I'm trashed.

I just found another calculator that allowed me to calculate more hours and more drinks. This calculator is made by one of the companies that manufactures a DUI breathalizer.

a 200 lb male drinking 18 beers over 12 hours will blow .13

Stallworth blew a .14. Maybe 19 beers over 12 hours?

I know I'd be completely trashed....If I had started at 7 pm, drank 19 beers and was still up at 7 AM, I'd be trashed and tired!

Kid Rex

I just wanted to interject with this little tid-bit....I was living in St Louis when this happened....

After a drunken birthday in 1998, NFL star Leonard Little crashed into and killed another motorist. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent. Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service. Six years later, after the involuntary manslaughter conviction was wiped from his record, Little was again arrested for drunk driving.

For those of you who did not even see this let me tell you what happened.....After a night of birthday celebration Little was driving his Navigator through downtown St Louis when he struck and killed a mother of 2 who was on her way to pick up her children...Little got out of his car and started yelling.."look what that bitch did to my navigator!" When police arrived on the scene Little was screaming ..."That bitch ran a yellow light!" ....which by all accounts dumbass makes your light RED! Little received what amounts to a slap on the wrist for this...only to be arrested for DUI again in the future.

Now if this were you or me????? We would still be UNDER the jail!...Sometimes it pays to have celebrity status and lots of cash!...Who wants to bet that Stallworth gets a 5 game suspension...30 days in jail....and 1000 hrs community service....????anyone???? Especially since his victim was an immigrant.

Oldcrow1945

@kid-rex said:
I just wanted to interject with this little tid-bit....I was living in St Louis when this happened....
After a drunken birthday in 1998, NFL star Leonard Little crashed into and killed another motorist. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent. Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service. Six years later, after the involuntary manslaughter conviction was wiped from his record, Little was again arrested for drunk driving.

For those of you who did not even see this let me tell you what happened.....After a night of birthday celebration Little was driving his Navigator through downtown St Louis when he struck and killed a mother of 2 who was on her way to pick up her children...Little got out of his car and started yelling.."look what that bitch did to my navigator!" When police arrived on the scene Little was screaming ..."That bitch ran a yellow light!" ....which by all accounts dumbass makes your light RED! Little received what amounts to a slap on the wrist for this...only to be arrested for DUI again in the future.

Now if this were you or me????? We would still be UNDER the jail!...Sometimes it pays to have celebrity status and lots of cash!...Who wants to bet that Stallworth gets a 5 game suspension...30 days in jail....and 1000 hrs community service....????anyone???? Especially since his victim was an immigrant.

Do you think that it may be a bit harsher since it seems this offense is even more frowned upon that it was 10 years ago?

That Little story was very interesting. Thanks.

By the way, If Little weighed 270 when that happened then it means he drank almost a case in 10 hours to blow that.

ClevelandFanForLife

apparently he saw the guy, honked his horn and flashed his lights, but kept on going anyway. this was a human being, not a deer. clearly his judgment was impaired. i don't care if it was the highway, this is completely his fault.

DieHardBrownsFan

@playgroundlegend said:
I know I said a .14 was bad, and that it was an awful decision but I do stand by my previous statement that after hearing the reports, and looking at the crime scene, it wasn't Dante's fault, if he was sober he couldn't have done anything different so the fact that he was drunk is really bad luck... I feel so bad for him, and the family of the deceased. The majority of the blame should go on the guy crossing a CAUSEWAY with no crosswalk... I mean, I jaywalk all the time, but running across a barricaded causeway at AM isn't smart.

It was really bad luck for the poor bastard who was ending a night shift going home and got hit by the millionaire in his Bentley, who also happened to be drunk.

Also, pedestrians ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT of way. Even if they are jaywalking. Driving is not a right, it is a privilege.

? AdaM

@oldcrow1945 said:
Do you think that it may be a bit harsher since it seems this offense is even more frowned upon that it was 10 years ago?
That Little story was very interesting. Thanks.

By the way, If Little weighed 270 when that happened then it means he drank almost a case in 10 hours to blow that.

A case in 10 hours is weak. I've downed 22 in 3 hours and I was all of about 165lbs at the time.

NFL players must be light weights

ATENEARS

AdaM said:
A case in 10 hours is weak. I've downed 22 in 3 hours and I was all of about 165lbs at the time.
NFL players must be light weights

Drinking a case of beer is tough to do just because of the "pee-factor", you spend as much time pissing as consuming.

ATENEARS

It just occurred to me that Mangini needs to get innovated and equip our Line Backers with flashing lights and honking horns, because they've never went around anyone to hit someone else in over a decade.

ClevelandFanForLife

@atenears said:
Drinking a case of beer is tough to do just because of the "pee-factor", you spend as much time pissing as consuming.

that's why the world needs to invent a recliner/toilet for when this happens.

JewDago

@kid-rex said:
I just wanted to interject with this little tid-bit....I was living in St Louis when this happened....
After a drunken birthday in 1998, NFL star Leonard Little crashed into and killed another motorist. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent. Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service. Six years later, after the involuntary manslaughter conviction was wiped from his record, Little was again arrested for drunk driving.

For those of you who did not even see this let me tell you what happened.....After a night of birthday celebration Little was driving his Navigator through downtown St Louis when he struck and killed a mother of 2 who was on her way to pick up her children...Little got out of his car and started yelling.."look what that bitch did to my navigator!" When police arrived on the scene Little was screaming ..."That bitch ran a yellow light!" ....which by all accounts dumbass makes your light RED! Little received what amounts to a slap on the wrist for this...only to be arrested for DUI again in the future.

Now if this were you or me????? We would still be UNDER the jail!...Sometimes it pays to have celebrity status and lots of cash!...Who wants to bet that Stallworth gets a 5 game suspension...30 days in jail....and 1000 hrs community service....????anyone???? Especially since his victim was an immigrant.

what makes it worse is that her husband was and still is a photographer for the rams.

since the accident, he's refused to photograph little, but he still has to watch him play eight times a year.

little should be in prison, no doubt. he's not only killed someone, he's endangered others by engaging in the exact same behavior that already proved deadly.

there will definitely be different consequences for stallworth, though, because goodell has made player conduct a point of emphasis, while tagliabue pretty much gave the guys free rein, with notable exceptions like rae carruth.

? AdaM

@atenears said:
It just occurred to me that Mangini needs to get innovated and equip our Line Backers with flashing lights and honking horns, because they've never went around anyone to hit someone else in over a decade.

How about something like this?

please excuse the suckiness.

YtownBrownsBacker

@kid-rex said:
I just wanted to interject with this little tid-bit....I was living in St Louis when this happened....
After a drunken birthday in 1998, NFL star Leonard Little crashed into and killed another motorist. When tested, his blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent. Little received 60 days and 1000 hours of community service. Six years later, after the involuntary manslaughter conviction was wiped from his record, Little was again arrested for drunk driving.

For those of you who did not even see this let me tell you what happened.....After a night of birthday celebration Little was driving his Navigator through downtown St Louis when he struck and killed a mother of 2 who was on her way to pick up her children...Little got out of his car and started yelling.."look what that bitch did to my navigator!" When police arrived on the scene Little was screaming ..."That bitch ran a yellow light!" ....which by all accounts dumbass makes your light RED! Little received what amounts to a slap on the wrist for this...only to be arrested for DUI again in the future.

Now if this were you or me????? We would still be UNDER the jail!...Sometimes it pays to have celebrity status and lots of cash!...Who wants to bet that Stallworth gets a 5 game suspension...30 days in jail....and 1000 hrs community service....????anyone???? Especially since his victim was an immigrant.

The Miami paper stated that the punishment for DUI manslaughter is a maximum of 15 years but they would expect Stallworth to get no even close to that. I'll say max will be one year, 6 mo served and he'll be back playing in the league

playing with Vick next year. I hope there's something Cleveland can do about his bonus and guaranteed money owed. It sucks if he can sit around and fat cat with money he never earned.

? AdaM

@ytownbrownsbacker said:
The Miami paper stated that the punishment for DUI manslaughter is a maximum of 15 years but they would expect Stallworth to get no even close to that. I'll say max will be one year, 6 mo served and he'll be back playing in the league
playing with Vick next year. I hope there's something Cleveland can do about his bonus and guaranteed money owed. It sucks if he can sit around and fat cat with money he never earned.

He's going to be ballin outa control in jail, debbie cakes for everyone.

PlaygroundLegend

You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.

? AdaM

@playgroundlegend said:
You guys keep making these beer references.... I dont know about you all but I usually just drink Bacardi 151 straight. About 6 shots of that in 2 hours and Im trashed. I think you people arent thinking that people do drink liquor you know. Stallworth probably knocked a few shots back instead of drinking 16 beers.

Yes, but we're equating it with what white people drink.

CLEVELandMILIDH

Munch Bishop just said on All Bets Are Off with Bruce Brennan that the Browns do have the right to withdraw the bonus Stallworth got but he wasnt sure what the cap hit would be if they let him go

NebBrownsFan

@jewdago said:
we disagree. i'm not going to argue.

Correct. We will have to disagree about a person being punished BEFORE all facts are known.

NebBrownsFan

@jadbf said:
You can cut the sanctimonious "innocent until proven guilty" crap already.
THIS IS A FREAKIN MESSAGE BOARD!!! THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW!!!! Ofcourse every member in here debating what they think should be done to stallworth is doing so basing thier opinions on what they believe the know facts are at this time. If any information comes out later that shows what seems to be the known fact at this time were false, then you can get on your high horse and tell us all you told us so.

No one here is saying he should be punished before he has a trial. People here are voicing their opinions about what they believe a fitting punishment would be.

And also I'll add to that OJ Simpson had a trial too, doesn't mean I believe he didn't do it and should have been punished. There are many reason why it's LIKELY Stallworth will probably get a lesser sentance than a normal person, and one of those is the fact he can afford a good lawyer who will trot out your wonderful "innocent until prove guilty" line too.

It's tired and frankly silly.

xxxx you JADBF. Try following the goddamn posts to see what I was even referring to, which was Jew's statement that Stallworth should be suspended while the investigation is ongoing, BEFORE any evidence of being under the influence. Asshole!

NebBrownsFan

@jadbf said:
I did follow, and I did see his comments and I agree with them. Employers have a right to suspend their employees the second they are involved in an incident involving the police. And Jew I belive also has the same opinion I do. The fact he was under the influence is IMMATERIAL, Stallworth killed a man with his vehicle. and BY ALL COUNTS, the man he killed was not drunk himself. So what if a cop shoots someone and kills them? aren't they suspended or put on desk duty while the investigation is ongoing? There are many examples where employers have the right to change the status of your employment before charges are even filed. And IMO and I would guess Jew's, playing in the NFL is a privaleged occupation that brings with it more responsibility and the need for a faster reaction than if it was a garbage man who hit this pedestrain.
oh and no thank you, I'm Straight. Maybe you can talk to lums.

Whatever dude. Also, at the time there was NOTHING of proof indicating the state of the man killed, i.e. drunk, high, whatever. As for cops, yes, they are put on desk duty. That is NOT suspended. For a prime example of jumping the gun on suspensions before proof, just look at the Duke situation. But believe what ya want, I'm just glad I don't live in a country being run by you two, would seem too much like Russia.

JewDago

@nebbrownsfan said:
But believe what ya want, I'm just glad I don't live in a country being run by you two, would seem too much like Russia.

if i ran a country, it'd be much more like north korea.