Jonathan Paul Manziel
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/10/johnny_manziel_heather_mcphee_nfl_lisa_friel.html
BEREA, Ohio -- Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel met with NFL investigators Wednesday evening at the Browns facility regarding his Oct. 12 domestic incident, league sources told cleveland.com.
Manziel met with NFL senior advisor Lisa Friel and was represented by NFLPA attorney Heather McPhee. The meeting began at about 5:30 p.m.
Friel was one of four women appointed by NFL Commisioner Roger Goodell last year to help shape the league's policies on domestic violence and sexual assault.
For more than a decade, Friel was head of the Sex Crimes Prosecution Unit in the New York County District Attorney's Office. There, she investigated and prosecuted cases of domestic violence, sexual assault, human trafficking and other similar crimes.
She now investigates the league's off-the-field incidents, and is uniquely qualified to determine if Manziel physically harmed his girlfriend, Colleen Crowley, who initially told Avon police that he did, before taking it back and saying that Manziel didn't hurt her.
McPhee, who represents NFL players in personal conduct violations, was responsible for Ray Rice winning his appeal against the NFL and having his indefinite suspension overturned. Rice, whom the Browns discussed signing this summer, struck his then-fiancee in an elevator and then dragged her out unconscious. Goodell originally suspended Rice for two games, and later banned him indefinitely.
McPhee helped Rice, the former Raven, win the appeal in arbitration and he was immediately re-instated last November. He has yet to sign with another team however. She also represented Tom Brady in his Deflate-Gate appeal.
The NFL came to town last week to talk to the Avon police, and spent the morning interviewing the officers who questioned and released Manziel and Crowley that day. Manziel was not arrested or charged, and the police suspended the investigation without turning it over to the prosecutor for review. Sgt. George Ruple told cleveland.com that the case is closed regardless of what the NFL decides to do.
The Browns turned the matter over to the NFL and are following its lead on the matter. The NFL can fine or suspend Manziel under its personal conduct policy.
It is not yet known if Manziel, who spent 10 weeks in an addiction treatment center in the offseason, is in the league's substance abuse program. If he is, he could be fined or suspended under that policy if he's required to abstain from alcohol. But an NFL spokesman told cleveland.com that the review is for a "possible violation of the personal conduct policy.''
The incident took place around 6 p.m. on I-90 near Avon, where Manziel lives. According to a witness, Manziel was speeding down the berm at about 90 mph and crossing lanes erratically to exit at Nagel Road in Avon. Police detected the slight odor of alcohol on Manziel's breath, and he admitted to having two drinks earlier in the afternoon. Another witness said he saw Manziel's arm and elbow around Crowley's neck, trying to keep her from exiting the moving vehicle.
Crowley also told police that Manziel pushed her head against the glass of the car and hit her a couple of times. One of the witnesses told police that Crowley told her that Manziel was beating her. On the DashCam footage released by Avon police, Crowley stated that she was "in fear for her life.''
Crowley was later asked if she was fearful of Manziel's actions or if she thought he was cause her physical harm and she said "no he was fine.''
Manziel emphatically denied to police that he had struck or punched Crowley or pulled her hair. Crowley had an abrasion on her wrist but police determined that was from Manziel grabbing it try to keep Crowley in the car.
Ultimately, police did not charge Manziel because of the inconsistencies in Crowley's story, their relationship status, the lack of physical evidence and the fact that Crowley did not wish to pursue charges.
On Friday Oct. 16, Crowley posted a statement on her Instagram account that "we're all good'' which has since been deleted, but the account still contains numerous pictures of her and Manziel together.
The Browns had the option of making Manziel inactive for the Broncos game six days after the incident, but kept him as the backup quarterback to Josh McCown instead.
The Browns are awaiting the NFL's decision, but it's not likely to come before the Browns face the Cardinals Sunday at 1 p.m. at FirstEnergy Stadium. Manziel took the first-team reps on Wednesday while McCown rested his sore shoulder and ribs.
McCown expects to play Sunday, a source told cleveland.com, but he's currently day-to-day. He said he'd try to throw some on Wednesday and see if he was okay to practice at least on a limited basis on Sunday.
If all goes as planned, McCown will start the game and Manziel will be the backup while he waits for the league to wrap up its investigation.
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I strongly doubt anything comes of it, I'm sure McCown's status will be solidified today - McCown is a warrior though he could probably lose an arm and keep playing.
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I know the guy is a hot topic for obvious reason. I also always try to hear the voice of the domestic violence victims in cases like this. With that being said, this woman is an absolute fraud. If she got her head slammed against a window, there's no way that wouldn't leave a mark. She got mad, lied to get back at him for it, then realizing the gravy train would stop told the truth.
Is Manziel a saint in this this? Absolutely not, and the few drinks is of concern no doubt. But it just saddens me when any person male or female exaggerates or flat out lies about this stuff. It takes away from the serious domestic incidents that occur sadly every day and reinforces bad stereotypes.
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I know the guy is a hot topic for obvious reason. I also always try to hear the voice of the domestic violence victims in cases like this. With that being said, this woman is an absolute fraud. If she got her head slammed against a window, there's no way that wouldn't leave a mark. She got mad, lied to get back at him for it, then realizing the gravy train would stop told the truth.
Is Manziel a saint in this this? Absolutely not, and the few drinks is of concern no doubt. But it just saddens me when any person male or female exaggerates or flat out lies about this stuff. It takes away from the serious domestic incidents that occur sadly every day and reinforces bad stereotypes.
I know the guy is a hot topic for obvious reason. I also always try to hear the voice of the domestic violence victims in cases like this. With that being said, this woman is an absolute fraud. If she got her head slammed against a window, there's no way that wouldn't leave a mark. She got mad, lied to get back at him for it, then realizing the gravy train would stop told the truth.
Is Manziel a saint in this this? Absolutely not, and the few drinks is of concern no doubt. But it just saddens me when any person male or female exaggerates or flat out lies about this stuff. It takes away from the serious domestic incidents that occur sadly every day and reinforces bad stereotypes.
Hey Johnny- Kruger has it right- ditch this chick before you get in more trouble. I'm thinking he might get a fine- but no suspension. If they suspend him, it's not going to be for more than a couple games. This wasn't a Ray Rice haymaker, or a Hardy "I'm gonna kill you" situation.
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How in the hell does no one know still if JM is or is not in this so called substance abuse program? When the NFL stumbles across the lost Ray Rice video hope they find this mystery list.. Put Crowley on your list JM than move on..
How in the hell does no one know still if JM is or is not in this so called substance abuse program? When the NFL stumbles across the lost Ray Rice video hope they find this mystery list.. Put Crowley on your list JM than move on..
I agree with that. How shitty does the reporting have to be for no one to know anything at all?
This is the NFL, not the NSA!
WSS
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You guys don't have to believe this, as I can't prove it, but I have no reason to lie. But I figured it tell you guys if you didn't know, because we're all die hard Browns fans.
I know a guy who lives with his girlfriend at Red Tail, the golfing community that Manziel lives at. Everyone remember when Manziel all of a sudden had the elbow tendinitis that supposedly has been bothering him since HS? There's a reason why it never showed up on anyone's radar during the draft process.. because it's a lie.
Early in training camp he was drunk and was riding around on one of those little Razor scooters for kids. He fell and slammed his elbow on the concrete, and has been slowly recovering since then. Everyone at Red Tail knows this, even the old ladies who don't even care about the Browns.
Also, the real reason Manziel went to rehab was for nose candy. Sure alcohol was a part of it, but it was mostly for the blow. I just don't get why Gronk parties with coke too, but no one cares..
Anyways, just figured I'd let you guys in on that. Believe me if you want, or don't believe me.
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Well Johnny wasn't twisting his money into a straw because it fit into his wallet better, that's for sure
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I know a guy who knows 3 guys who know the drug dealer who knows the drug lord who is friends with the drug kingpin that supplies Johnny with his coke, and he confirms what you're saying.
I know a guy who knows 3 guys who know the drug dealer who knows the drug lord who is friends with the drug kingpin that supplies Johnny with his coke, and he confirms what you're saying.
LOL, ya know there just might be some truth to what the OP is saying. For sure JM was drinking when he had the incident with the girlfriend. And then there's the rumors he's been sighted in bars of late.
As BFR said- you roll up a bill in a bathroom for one thing. Well, if it was blow, didn't seem to affect Lawrence Taylor much.
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All these athletes will be dead by 50.
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You guys don't have to believe this, as I can't prove it, but I have no reason to lie. But I figured it tell you guys if you didn't know, because we're all die hard Browns fans.
I know a guy who lives with his girlfriend at Red Tail, the golfing community that Manziel lives at. Everyone remember when Manziel all of a sudden had the elbow tendinitis that supposedly has been bothering him since HS? There's a reason why it never showed up on anyone's radar during the draft process.. because it's a lie.
Early in training camp he was drunk and was riding around on one of those little Razor scooters for kids. He fell and slammed his elbow on the concrete, and has been slowly recovering since then. Everyone at Red Tail knows this, even the old ladies who don't even care about the Browns.
Also, the real reason Manziel went to rehab was for nose candy. Sure alcohol was a part of it, but it was mostly for the blow. I just don't get why Gronk parties with coke too, but no one cares..
Anyways, just figured I'd let you guys in on that. Believe me if you want, or don't believe me.
Early in training camp he was drunk and was riding around on one of those little Razor scooters for kids. He fell and slammed his elbow on the concrete, and has been slowly recovering since then.
So you're saying the elbow is not a chronic condition... that would put it in the good news column.
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I would think if he is doing blow it would show up in a drug test that would be reported. That is....if he is doing it now.
If his rehab stint was for coke, I would think that that would put him into "The Program", which, correct me if I am wrong allows for numerous unannounced drug testing.
I mean, didn't Josh Gordon get hit with like 50 tests when he was in the program just for weed?
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So THECEO knows another guy named THESPEK216 that can post another guys girlfriends story about a Sammy Hager Bad Razor Scooter Stories. God please tell us that JM is on the NFL Substance Abuse Protocol List so we don't stress on this Fine, Suspension or NFL Excempt list thingy?? Can she get 9 holes in tomorrow?
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I would think if he is doing blow it would show up in a drug test that would be reported. That is....if he is doing it now.
If his rehab stint was for coke, I would think that that would put him into "The Program", which, correct me if I am wrong allows for numerous unannounced drug testing.
I mean, didn't Josh Gordon get hit with like 50 tests when he was in the program just for weed?
I would think if he is doing blow it would show up in a drug test that would be reported. That is....if he is doing it now.
If his rehab stint was for coke, I would think that that would put him into "The Program", which, correct me if I am wrong allows for numerous unannounced drug testing.
I mean, didn't Josh Gordon get hit with like 50 tests when he was in the program just for weed?
Yes, Josh was tested a bunch as is any player who is "in the program".
I seriously doubt checking yourself into rehab earns your way in. I seriously doubt the NFL is privy to the reason he was admitted.
We know from the earlier discussions that there is a very short window for a player's once-a-year random test... something like two or three months around August. If he gets and stays clean far enough in advance of his test, then he can pass and party until the next year's sober period comes along.
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I know for a fact it was coke as one of my friends was one of the guys that supplied it. Namely the day they had to go find Johnny to report to his rehab at the Browns facility.
This same friend is also good friends with Rubin and is still in contact with him he even got tickets from him to Seahawks home opener. The stories this guy has are priceless considering he really isn't a sports fan so he just talks about the players like they are random people. Probably why they trust him so much.
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I know a guy who knows 3 guys who know the drug dealer who knows the drug lord who is friends with the drug kingpin that supplies Johnny with his coke, and he confirms what you're saying.
LOL, ya know there just might be some truth to what the OP is saying. For sure JM was drinking when he had the incident with the girlfriend. And then there's the rumors he's been sighted in bars of late.
As BFR said- you roll up a bill in a bathroom for one thing. Well, if it was blow, didn't seem to affect Lawrence Taylor much.
LOL, ya know there just might be some truth to what the OP is saying. For sure JM was drinking when he had the incident with the girlfriend. And then there's the rumors he's been sighted in bars of late.
As BFR said- you roll up a bill in a bathroom for one thing. Well, if it was blow, didn't seem to affect Lawrence Taylor much.
I think it happened to help LT.. I mean things/chemicals affects people differently... Just sayin... But I think it helped enhance his vile state of mind , during games...
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