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  • I was gone all day, but I know the final score. I just got home and the game is waiting for me on my DVR......... I deleted it.

    My Sunday with my family was awesome and I kicked ass in fantasy......... A great day that I won't spoil watching the Browns.

  • This isnt the first time a QB has gotten hurt and tried to forge ahead and his coach continues to roll with his guy. Its the NFL, all these guys know whats on the line. Youd think this fan base would appreciate a above average QB thats willing to put the pain aside to try and lead this team to victory, especially given the horrid QB's that we've had to witness in the past. Pett was ridin his horse just the same as any other coach woulda done.

  • Am I done with what? It's a great point and you obviously are dancing around and avoiding the question.

    "The backs kinda rotate"

    what the fuck kind of answer is that?

    @walterwhite said:

    Am I done with what? It's a great point and you obviously are dancing around and avoiding the question.

    "The backs kinda rotate"

    what the fuck kind of answer is that?

    Danny Sheldon just sacked Palmer, so great play, now sit down. I get it Walter. The Chinese Fire Drill isn't working.

    Neither is the overpaid- and worthless Dwayne Bowe. He was brought in to be the go to guy- the only thing he's doing is going to the bank and laughing at us. Possibly one of the worst FA pickups in the history of the NFL, if you consider the contract.

  • A look at Josh McCown leading the Browns huddle:

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    @walterwhite said:

    A look at Josh McCown leading the Browns huddle:

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    is that you in the middle walter???....that's great...I can't stop laughing...however it's not a laughing matter for josh. The poor dude probably won't be able to crawl tommorrow...fucking ol...

  • McCown played a great game, showed toughness and grit in there, it's not on McCown that Turbin fumbled the ball twice, it's NOT on McCown that Hartline dropped crucial first down passes. It's not on McCown the D couldn't stop the Cardinals in the second half.

  • @hoorta said:

    Petrine? Can I start calling him Petri dish? That's a little thing they use in labs to grow bacteria. Maybe Perigrine- that's a small falcon- so maybe Mike will just fly away.

    Aw gee- it's all peaches and cream when the Browns lay another shit sandwich on the fans. It's all good here. LALALALA The coaching isn't the problem, the players aren't the problem- it's just those pesky fans that are F**king tired of losing.

    Watch the pressers with an objective eye- Pettine is acting like a beaten man. "Well, we're going to put this one behind us- and get ready to promptly get our asses kicked again on Thursday."

    Gee, it's funny that all you guys can focus on is the misspelling.

    Pettine. Mike Pettine. Our head coach. Isn't going anywhere. So, once again, sack up everyone and get ready for Thursday.

    Or go root for Buffalo, no skin off my balls. We could do with some of these "fans" going away.(Not you, specifically, of course.)

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Gee, it's funny that all you guys can focus on is the misspelling.

    Pettine. Mike Pettine. Our head coach. Isn't going anywhere. So, once again, sack up everyone and get ready for Thursday.

    Or go root for Buffalo, no skin off my balls. We could do with some of these "fans" going away.(Not you, specifically, of course.)

    why don't you and patrine as you call him both go fuck yourselves...you stupid brocolli iq piece of shit..

  • This year has been a disappointment. But is complaining like many other fans of other teams won't make it better. Lions anyone

    @lbc-mike said:

    This year has been a disappointment. But is complaining like many other fans of other teams won't make it better. Lions anyone

    which yr hasn't been a disappointment since 99?

  • Am I done with what? It's a great point and you obviously are dancing around and avoiding the question.

    "The backs kinda rotate"

    what the fuck kind of answer is that?

    @walterwhite said:

    Am I done with what? It's a great point and you obviously are dancing around and avoiding the question.

    "The backs kinda rotate"

    what the fuck kind of answer is that?

    you know what kind of answer that is...its like nyuck nyuck nyuck...hey moe, hey larry....

  • I just don't see a Pettine issue here. It's not like McCown tried to come out and they forced him to play. There is oweness on the athlete to speak up if he feels like he can't play. The difference between sore and injured aren't always visually obvious from the sideline or the stands.

    Funny to see folks jumping on Pet who routinely bemoan the sissification of the NFL...

    Yeah, lookin' at you Walter...

    @jcam222 said:

    I just don't see a Pettine issue here. It's not like McCown tried to come out and they forced him to play. There is oweness on the athlete to speak up if he feels like he can't play. The difference between sore and injured aren't always visually obvious from the sideline or the stands.

    Yup... the pain and injury difference... I thought initially it was aggravation of his shoulder, but clearly was not the case. Sounds now like it was rib cartilage. Painful as hell... hurts to breathe let alone fall or get hit.

    Probably the bravest effort by a Browns QB since Bernie played on his broken ankle...

    @slimdawg said:

    Youd think this fan base would appreciate a above average QB thats willing to put the pain aside to try and lead this team to victory, especially given the horrid QB's that we've had to witness in the past.

    I said in the tavern the rest of the team did not deserve McC's painful effort. It's likely that was an overstatement about the team, but it obviously goes for a chunk of the fanbase as well.

    Yeah... lookin' at you again Walter...

  • @hoorta said:

    Petrine? Can I start calling him Petri dish? That's a little thing they use in labs to grow bacteria. Maybe Perigrine- that's a small falcon- so maybe Mike will just fly away.

    Aw gee- it's all peaches and cream when the Browns lay another shit sandwich on the fans. It's all good here. LALALALA The coaching isn't the problem, the players aren't the problem- it's just those pesky fans that are F**king tired of losing.

    Watch the pressers with an objective eye- Pettine is acting like a beaten man. "Well, we're going to put this one behind us- and get ready to promptly get our asses kicked again on Thursday."

    Gee, it's funny that all you guys can focus on is the misspelling.

    Pettine. Mike Pettine. Our head coach. Isn't going anywhere. So, once again, sack up everyone and get ready for Thursday.

    Or go root for Buffalo, no skin off my balls. We could do with some of these "fans" going away.(Not you, specifically, of course.)

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Gee, it's funny that all you guys can focus on is the misspelling.

    Pettine. Mike Pettine. Our head coach. Isn't going anywhere. So, once again, sack up everyone and get ready for Thursday.

    Or go root for Buffalo, no skin off my balls. We could do with some of these "fans" going away.(Not you, specifically, of course.)

    actually you would make a good fit in the browns front ofc.....actually i really think you are mike pettine using an alias of tim crotch pulls out...

  • Browns52

    You seriously just bitched about the same post twice?! Are you fucking Retarded?

  • Maybe Jim Tressel will come into Cleveland with his complete lack of NFL coaching experience, 1 BCS championship and lack of institutional control and lead the Browns to the promised land. Maurice Clarett is only 32 he can be the bell cow. This all can work, trust me.

    @baconhound said:

    Maybe Jim Tressel will come into Cleveland with his complete lack of NFL coaching experience, 1 BCS championship and lack of institutional control and lead the Browns to the promised land. Maurice Clarett is only 32 he can be the bell cow. This all can work, trust me.

    I think Clarett might still be able to do 8 yards in a game. (Go look at the game stats)

  • Funny to see folks jumping on Pet who routinely bemoan the sissification of the NFL...

    Yeah, lookin' at you Walter...

    @jcam222 said:

    I just don't see a Pettine issue here. It's not like McCown tried to come out and they forced him to play. There is oweness on the athlete to speak up if he feels like he can't play. The difference between sore and injured aren't always visually obvious from the sideline or the stands.

    Yup... the pain and injury difference... I thought initially it was aggravation of his shoulder, but clearly was not the case. Sounds now like it was rib cartilage. Painful as hell... hurts to breathe let alone fall or get hit.

    Probably the bravest effort by a Browns QB since Bernie played on his broken ankle...

    @slimdawg said:

    Youd think this fan base would appreciate a above average QB thats willing to put the pain aside to try and lead this team to victory, especially given the horrid QB's that we've had to witness in the past.

    I said in the tavern the rest of the team did not deserve McC's painful effort. It's likely that was an overstatement about the team, but it obviously goes for a chunk of the fanbase as well.

    Yeah... lookin' at you again Walter...

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... the pain and injury difference... I thought initially it was aggravation of his shoulder, but clearly was not the case. Sounds now like it was rib cartilage. Painful as hell... hurts to breathe let alone fall or get hit.

    Probably the bravest effort by a Browns QB since Bernie played on his broken ankle...

    I said in the tavern the rest of the team did not deserve McC's painful effort. It's likely that was an overstatement about the team, but it obviously goes for a chunk of the fanbase as well.

    Yeah... lookin' at you again Walter...

    Hey, no one can question McCown's courage Tour- but the bottom line is we still lost. I'll take another look at the tape, but MHO is that horrendous interception is all on Josh. That was truly a game changer.

    The Bengals pass rush will be worse.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Gee, it's funny that all you guys can focus on is the misspelling.

    Pettine. Mike Pettine. Our head coach. Isn't going anywhere. So, once again, sack up everyone and get ready for Thursday.

    Or go root for Buffalo, no skin off my balls. We could do with some of these "fans" going away.(Not you, specifically, of course.)

    why don't you and patrine as you call him both go fuck yourselves...you stupid brocolli iq piece of shit..

    @browns52 said:

    why don't you and patrine as you call him both go fuck yourselves...you stupid brocolli iq piece of shit..

    This is awesome

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... the pain and injury difference... I thought initially it was aggravation of his shoulder, but clearly was not the case. Sounds now like it was rib cartilage. Painful as hell... hurts to breathe let alone fall or get hit.

    Probably the bravest effort by a Browns QB since Bernie played on his broken ankle...

    I said in the tavern the rest of the team did not deserve McC's painful effort. It's likely that was an overstatement about the team, but it obviously goes for a chunk of the fanbase as well.

    Yeah... lookin' at you again Walter...

    Hey, no one can question McCown's courage Tour- but the bottom line is we still lost. I'll take another look at the tape, but MHO is that horrendous interception is all on Josh. That was truly a game changer.

    The Bengals pass rush will be worse.

    @hoorta said:

    Hey, no one can question McCown's courage Tour- but the bottom line is we still lost. I'll take another look at the tape, but MHO is that horrendous interception is all on Josh. That was truly a game changer.

    The Bengals pass rush will be worse.

    First... we got the Bengals number.

    Second... yes, bad pass, ugliest one McC threw all day. Wobbly with too much air under it. But it was not into double coverage as you claimed in the Tavern. It was into the wind from what I understood about the game conditions.

    The Safety who made the interception was simply playing centerfield. Doesn't mean the pick wasn't on Josh, it was... just a different source of error. At least as I saw it...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... the pain and injury difference... I thought initially it was aggravation of his shoulder, but clearly was not the case. Sounds now like it was rib cartilage. Painful as hell... hurts to breathe let alone fall or get hit.

    Probably the bravest effort by a Browns QB since Bernie played on his broken ankle...

    I said in the tavern the rest of the team did not deserve McC's painful effort. It's likely that was an overstatement about the team, but it obviously goes for a chunk of the fanbase as well.

    Yeah... lookin' at you again Walter...

    Hey, no one can question McCown's courage Tour- but the bottom line is we still lost. I'll take another look at the tape, but MHO is that horrendous interception is all on Josh. That was truly a game changer.

    The Bengals pass rush will be worse.

    @hoorta said:

    Hey, no one can question McCown's courage Tour- but the bottom line is we still lost. I'll take another look at the tape, but MHO is that horrendous interception is all on Josh. That was truly a game changer.

    The Bengals pass rush will be worse.

    Yes.....McCown made a bad pass on the interception. He played an excellent game, consideriing all other factors. In fact....he played way above the level of any other player on that team. If you're suggesting Manziel would have done better...well.... I'm laughing my ass off.

  • Manziel wasn't one hit away from having jagged rib bits jammed into his lungs. If it's clear we're not going to win why are you trying to get mccown killed?

  • Every week we seem to have major issues with the way Pettine handles the in-game coaching. Whether it's time management, awful playcalling during crunch time, or personnel groupings...this guy just can't seem to get it right. This week, it's once again time management in my eyes. Right before the half, we needed ONE first down to prevent the Cards from getting the ball before halftime. Do you think we could get just ONE first down? Why no...no we can't. I understand running the ball on first and second down, I really do. But on 3rd and 5, we ran the ball yet again. Even the announcers liked the call, but I didn't. I completely understand that you don't want the clock to stop, but for the love of god, you have to get that first down! We're really lucky we didn't give up a freaking touchdown at the end of the game. We got bailed out by a silly penalty, but the WR made an incredible play. That's one thing, and here's the next:

    Johnny Manziel. I believe our first five possessions of the second half went something like this: Punt, punt, punt, McCown pummled-punt, McCown pummled-punt. I know McCown is tough, and I have a TON of respect for the guy, but at some point the coach has to make a decision in the best interest of both the team and his player. Pettine refused to do this. Listen, I am NOT saying Manziel would've done ANY better, but McCown did NOT deserve to get his ass beaten to hell and back. I am certainly not putting this loss on McCown, as we had some killer drops (I'm talking to YOU Hartline).

    And maybe Manziel DOES come in and do something. With absolutely ZERO threat of running the ball, the Cardinals could unleash their pass rush and come after us on EVERY play. Perhaps a more mobile QB could help offset this, no? We weren't going to win the damn game. Heck, we gave up 27 UNANSWERED POINTS for crying out loud. Why keep Josh in the game?

  • Probably a mistake, I wouldn't be willing to crucify pettine over it though.

    McCown really wanted to stay in, said he was fine. He put too much trust into him probably but it's something Pett could learn from.

    Everybody saying he hates Manziel and has it out to get him is likely wrong, I think it's more like he trusts his starting quarterback a lot.

    I have a hard time seeing McCown being able to go Thursday - so everybody will get their wish and be able to see Johnny. Then after the game everybody can load up the excuses about how pettine sucks and run game sucks and defense sucks - not Johnny's fault.

  • Ive been a staunch Pettine defender the whole time and am starting to question a lot of things.....really liked his tough stance with rookies and such, but feel like its going a bit too far now........

    Im seeing poor game time decisions, poor clock management and poor choices at the coordinator positions....I think the lack of experience, by having rookies & beginners making up the ENTIRE coaching staff and front office, is really starting to show.....

    1) Stop with all the cute situational packages and just put the best players out there....let them get in the flow of the game dammit...

    That means put one RB in and let him play....put your best DL in and leave them there......etc etc....when players come in and out and in and out and in and out, no one gets into the flow.....simple......

    2) Stop punishing everybody who you dont like and play a few guys who might actually help out...Hey Mike, instead of sitting the guy who doesnt practice well, how about sitting the guys who SUCK DURING THE GAMES???.....eh?.....

    3) And Mike, youve always been a straight shooter, so stop saying just a tweak here or there....the problems are bigger than that....man up, say we suck, take some drastic measures and get this train rolling again......

    4) McCown should have been pulled....yes, I said that......look, NFL coaches switch QB's all the time.....sometimes a backup can spark the team.....and when your guy is literally broken?, sit him......we should have seen JF for most of the second half...

    5) When your receiver is dropping everything, why not try another one?.....Bowe might have caught those Hartline drops....maybe maybe not.....but we will never know because he will never play.....is it Bowes decision to sit or Petts?....

    6) And it was REALLY stupid to allow trade rumors to hit the street on a Sunday morning.....wtf is wrong with you guys?.....our FO has been a steel trap for keeping things secret, yet suddenly, rumors of a JT trade hit on the morning of a game?.......screw that.....

    Honestly.....Im pretty disgusted with it all.....

    Oh yeah.....I forgot.....when you have a guy like Duke Johnson, who is ripping ass in the short passing game, you DONT SIT HIS ASS DOWN RIGHT AFTER HE GETS 60 YARDS IN THE FIRST 1/2.....WTF ARE YOU DOING? TRYING TO TRICK THE OTHER TEAM?.....WHY, WHENEVER SOMEONE PLAYS WELL, DO WE SIT THEM???......