Joe Thomas doesnt want traded
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Agree, sisko... of all our pieces, Joe's the crown jewel.
Laughed when someone in another thread said we'd be lucky to get a 2nd round pick for him.
Someone would have to offer two #1's for me to take their call... and then I'd ask "what else are you going to add."
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a 2nd rounder? probably wasn't Vesna Ghoolie, he doubtfully even values him that high.
i agree he's worth 2 #1's plus an Andrew Hawkins at least.
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a 2nd rounder? probably wasn't Vesna Ghoolie, he doubtfully even values him that high.
i agree he's worth 2 #1's plus an Andrew Hawkins at least.
i agree he's worth 2 #1's plus an Andrew Hawkins at least.
2 #1's at Texans slot & Hopkins at least. And I would still find a way to bitch
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Joe Thomas is the only jersey I'd buy from anyone on the browns since 99' (except maybe Phil Dawson)
Losing him would suck for sure
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It's commendable that he feels that way but it's not his call and if he goes to a winner I think he'll change his mind
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just keep him and win.
seriously, how hard can it be?
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just keep him and win.
seriously, how hard can it be?
just keep him and win.
seriously, how hard can it be?
Apparently very very hard.
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I don't want to see him go but if he does for some reason I do hope he sees a winner. Not many guys like Joe in the league who deserve a chance at the title. For those of you saying we'd get a bunch of high picks for him, we just won't so get that out of your minds. He might be a top 3 LT still but trades in the NFL aren't like that. I'm not kidding when I say the Richardson trade might seriously have been the biggest steal of a 1st rounder of all time. Joe would likely be offered late 2nd from a contender or 3rd, no way in hell we would get a 1st round pick for him.
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Even if they get a 1st rounder for him, does anybody here feel like the chances are good that the Front Office could do anything with the pick?
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Even if they get a 1st rounder for him, does anybody here feel like the chances are good that the Front Office could do anything with the pick?
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Even if they get a 1st rounder for him, does anybody here feel like the chances are good that the Front Office could do anything with the pick?
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lol. good point.
But in that Joe Thomas says that.... the Browns are closer to getting it right that
we thing they are, based on the games we watch.
If Pettine and Flip sucked, etc etc etc....
I can't imagine Joe not having a different opinion. I just hope Joe gets a
super bowl ring.Just somebody find out what the (*%*&^% deal is with Dwayne Bowe. Somebody like him would
have made a huge difference to this offense.
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Fire sale :
Browns are having a fire sale, Barkevious Mingo also on the block
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 1, 2015, 11:16 AM EST
Oh, my God, the Browns are having a fire sale.
We already noted that the Brownsâ two best offensive linemen, left tackle Joe Thomas and center Alex Mack, are both on the trade block, as is linebacker Paul Kruger. Now Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that Barkevious Mingo is on the block as well, and the Browns have told teams that Mingo is available.
The 6-foot-4, 240-pound Mingo is a talented pass rusher who hasnât always looked like a great fit for what the Browns want to do on defense. Cleveland took him with the sixth overall pick in the 2013 draft, and he has just seven career sacks â none this year.
The Browns surely wonât be able to get anything close to the Top 10 pick they spent on Mingo, but if they could get anything of value in a trade, theyâd probably be willing to let Mingo go. This is a team building for the future, not trying to win in 2015.
Don't think they can trade Mack as I recall there was a clause in his Contract about that.
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mary kay cabbagehead. Enough already, mary kay.
(could we trade HER to another city?)
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I don't want to see him go but if he does for some reason I do hope he sees a winner. Not many guys like Joe in the league who deserve a chance at the title. For those of you saying we'd get a bunch of high picks for him, we just won't so get that out of your minds. He might be a top 3 LT still but trades in the NFL aren't like that. I'm not kidding when I say the Richardson trade might seriously have been the biggest steal of a 1st rounder of all time. Joe would likely be offered late 2nd from a contender or 3rd, no way in hell we would get a 1st round pick for him.
I don't want to see him go but if he does for some reason I do hope he sees a winner. Not many guys like Joe in the league who deserve a chance at the title. For those of you saying we'd get a bunch of high picks for him, we just won't so get that out of your minds. He might be a top 3 LT still but trades in the NFL aren't like that. I'm not kidding when I say the Richardson trade might seriously have been the biggest steal of a 1st rounder of all time. Joe would likely be offered late 2nd from a contender or 3rd, no way in hell we would get a 1st round pick for him.
Not even one #1?
Here's the deal for a then 2-time, Pro Bowler. He's added five more since then, but has been 1st-team only twice... and he has missed games due to injury... including all of 2012.
I'm pretty sure an 8-timer with five 1st-team berths, who has never missed a game would command an even better deal.
Reviewing the Jason Peters trade
At the time, Philadelphia was in need of a Left tackle, as franchise cornerstone Tra Thomas had just left in free agency to sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Armed with the 21st and 28th overall picks in the 2009 NFL draft, their options were slim in that regard, with the top offensive tackles projected to be on the board at the time the 21st overall pick came around were Baltimore Ravens disappointment Michael Oher and journeyman Eben Britton, while the top overall players projected to be available in that range were star wide receiver Jeremy Maclin and All-Pro center Alex Mack. With their options slim in that regard, Philadelphia turned toward the trade block, and came to find that 2-time Pro Bowl LT Jason Peters, who was in a contract stalemate with Buffalo, was available for the right price. After lengthy negotiations that included preliminary contract extension talks, Philadelphia sent Buffalo the 28th overall pick in 2009 it had received from Carolina, their 4th round pick in 2009, and a 2010 6th round pick.
In return, the Eagles received the man whom Andy Reid gushed over as âthe best left tackle in footballâ, who quickly signed a 4-year, $53 million dollar extension with his new team.
http://www.footballsavages.com/reviewing-jason-peters-trade/
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