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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000572205/article/whisenhunt-relieved-of-duties-as-titans-head-coach

    The Tennessee Titans have parted ways with head coach Ken Whisenhunt, the team announced Tuesday.

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    • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      Well, that is kind of fucked up. He is playing with a rookie QB that got hurt. Unjustified imo.

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        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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        From Whisenhunt to Mularkey.....(replace your retread with a retread)......hahahaha!......

        This is why firing Pettine isnt a good idea.....only retreads are available.....

        AND, when firing during the season, all teams usually tap an existing coach to act as interim.....so we'd be firing pettine and inserting who?.....Oneill?....Flip?.....some other coach none of us even have heard of?.....

        HEY, wait just a minute!!!...maybe we can get Whisenhunt....?!?!

        Hahhahaaaaaaaa.......way to go Titans!!!

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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          They went 2-14, drafted a QB everyone knew would take time to develop, and a WR in DGB who every knew would take time to develop. What did they seriously expect?

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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            If we fired Pettine by years end (I don't think we will OFC), Whisenhunt will be one of the guys we talk to and everybody will complain that we aren't interviewing Bill Cowher.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              We should fire Pettine and get him while we can.

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                T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                there are literally dozens of upgrades over mike pettine. Whisenhunt wouldnt be my first pick, or even in my top ten......but he would be a massive upgrade over the waste of space that is Mike pettine.

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                  MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                  Id only point out that Pettines team just beat Whisenhunts team......by a large margin......

                  So, yeah, Its obvious he'd be a massive upgrade........ 😕

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    OMG I want Ken Whisenhut. Gotta have us some Ken Whisenhut. Some of you fuckers are clowns for real.

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                    • MudflyM Mudfly

                      From Whisenhunt to Mularkey.....(replace your retread with a retread)......hahahaha!......

                      This is why firing Pettine isnt a good idea.....only retreads are available.....

                      AND, when firing during the season, all teams usually tap an existing coach to act as interim.....so we'd be firing pettine and inserting who?.....Oneill?....Flip?.....some other coach none of us even have heard of?.....

                      HEY, wait just a minute!!!...maybe we can get Whisenhunt....?!?!

                      Hahhahaaaaaaaa.......way to go Titans!!!

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                      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                      @mudfly said:

                      From Whisenhunt to Mularkey.....(replace your retread with a retread)......hahahaha!......

                      This is why firing Pettine isnt a good idea.....only retreads are available.....

                      AND, when firing during the season, all teams usually tap an existing coach to act as interim.....so we'd be firing pettine and inserting who?.....Oneill?....Flip?.....some other coach none of us even have heard of?.....

                      HEY, wait just a minute!!!...maybe we can get Whisenhunt....?!?!

                      Hahhahaaaaaaaa.......way to go Titans!!!

                      Biggest reason why firing Pettine before year's end doesn't make sense. Seriously, who on this staff would you want as a HC even at an interim level? That's what we would be looking at if we let Pettine go before year's end. Although the trend appears to be to hire tight end coaches which would be Brian Angelichio?

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                        @mudfly said:

                        From Whisenhunt to Mularkey.....(replace your retread with a retread)......hahahaha!......

                        This is why firing Pettine isnt a good idea.....only retreads are available.....

                        AND, when firing during the season, all teams usually tap an existing coach to act as interim.....so we'd be firing pettine and inserting who?.....Oneill?....Flip?.....some other coach none of us even have heard of?.....

                        HEY, wait just a minute!!!...maybe we can get Whisenhunt....?!?!

                        Hahhahaaaaaaaa.......way to go Titans!!!

                        Biggest reason why firing Pettine before year's end doesn't make sense. Seriously, who on this staff would you want as a HC even at an interim level? That's what we would be looking at if we let Pettine go before year's end. Although the trend appears to be to hire tight end coaches which would be Brian Angelichio?

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @jrb12711 said:

                        Biggest reason why firing Pettine before year's end doesn't make sense. Seriously, who on this staff would you want as a HC even at an interim level? That's what we would be looking at if we let Pettine go before year's end. Although the trend appears to be to hire tight end coaches which would be Brian Angelichio?

                        Well, he took Barnidge from 3 career TDs to 6 this season - if he can have a similar impact everywhere then I'm up for it...

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                          D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                          Players win and lose games. Period. Problem is you can't fire the 53 of them, so the captain of the ship takes the fall.

                          Talent on the field wins games.

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                            Id only point out that Pettines team just beat Whisenhunts team......by a large margin......

                            So, yeah, Its obvious he'd be a massive upgrade........ 😕

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                            T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                            @mudfly said:

                            Id only point out that Pettines team just beat Whisenhunts team......by a large margin......

                            So, yeah, Its obvious he'd be a massive upgrade........ 😕

                            Whisenhunt also took a team to a super bowl once as a head coach.....so yeah it is pretty obvious its a massive upgrade.

                            note that the titans did the right thing in firing him. He's been terrible, the team is going backwards, and its year 2. After year 2 in the nfl if you arent moving forward and you still suck, it's hit the bricks pal. Pettine is about to find that out at the end of this season.

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                              @mudfly said:

                              Id only point out that Pettines team just beat Whisenhunts team......by a large margin......

                              So, yeah, Its obvious he'd be a massive upgrade........ 😕

                              Whisenhunt also took a team to a super bowl once as a head coach.....so yeah it is pretty obvious its a massive upgrade.

                              note that the titans did the right thing in firing him. He's been terrible, the team is going backwards, and its year 2. After year 2 in the nfl if you arent moving forward and you still suck, it's hit the bricks pal. Pettine is about to find that out at the end of this season.

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                              B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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                              @tacosman said:

                              Whisenhunt also took a team to a super bowl once as a head coach.....so yeah it is pretty obvious its a massive upgrade.

                              note that the titans did the right thing in firing him. He's been terrible, the team is going backwards, and its year 2. After year 2 in the nfl if you arent moving forward and you still suck, it's hit the bricks pal. Pettine is about to find that out at the end of this season.

                              He had a fucking QB. Of course he went to the super bowl. You idiots don't understand that any coach can look awful when they don't have playmakers. Swap Belichick and Wizenhunt this year and tell me who still has a job..

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                                Players win and lose games. Period. Problem is you can't fire the 53 of them, so the captain of the ship takes the fall.

                                Talent on the field wins games.

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                                OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                @d-bone said:

                                Players win and lose games. Period. Problem is you can't fire the 53 of them, so the captain of the ship takes the fall.

                                Talent on the field wins games.

                                So why did the now 6-2 Falcons suck last year? Most of the talent is the same. The Browns on talent alone aren't great, but they are better than 2-6. Look at our coaches:

                                Flip: Explains in detail why things went wrong and adapts his scheme to the talent he has, hence all the spread-style plays where he tries to put the little shifty guys in space. Result: the better of the two main units on this team.

                                O'Neil: Gets fiery and defensive in press conferences when he can't explain why they suck. Plays to his players weaknesses (i.e. Kruger), doing the opposite of what Flip does on offense.

                                Pettine: Has a cliche excuse for every question, has no problem getting his QB killed. Looks like a beaten man and won't hold his players accountable.

                                Don't get me wrong, I don't want Pettine fired (yet), but that's mostly because hitting the reset button repeatedly hasn't worked in the past, and because I like Flip and we'd lose him if Pettine got fired, and also because there isn't really anyone better who would come here (though we could've waited for Quinn). The Browns suck this year because of the coaching, and it began in training camp. Listen to the people who watched it, all of them say how low-energy the camp was and how all these players were getting a lot of time off for minor things.

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                                  DeputyDawgD DeputyDawg wrote on last edited by
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                                  Surely the Pettine/Farmer regime needs to be given longer than a season and a half? You can't turn around a franchise that has been in the doldrums since a long time ago in that short space of time.

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                                    @d-bone said:

                                    Players win and lose games. Period. Problem is you can't fire the 53 of them, so the captain of the ship takes the fall.

                                    Talent on the field wins games.

                                    So why did the now 6-2 Falcons suck last year? Most of the talent is the same. The Browns on talent alone aren't great, but they are better than 2-6. Look at our coaches:

                                    Flip: Explains in detail why things went wrong and adapts his scheme to the talent he has, hence all the spread-style plays where he tries to put the little shifty guys in space. Result: the better of the two main units on this team.

                                    O'Neil: Gets fiery and defensive in press conferences when he can't explain why they suck. Plays to his players weaknesses (i.e. Kruger), doing the opposite of what Flip does on offense.

                                    Pettine: Has a cliche excuse for every question, has no problem getting his QB killed. Looks like a beaten man and won't hold his players accountable.

                                    Don't get me wrong, I don't want Pettine fired (yet), but that's mostly because hitting the reset button repeatedly hasn't worked in the past, and because I like Flip and we'd lose him if Pettine got fired, and also because there isn't really anyone better who would come here (though we could've waited for Quinn). The Browns suck this year because of the coaching, and it began in training camp. Listen to the people who watched it, all of them say how low-energy the camp was and how all these players were getting a lot of time off for minor things.

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                                    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                    @osiris said:

                                    The Browns suck this year because of the coaching, and it began in training camp.

                                    Please. We all talk about "our talented roster", again please. A lot of our starters on defense would never see the field for the Broncos, and most of our "depth" (lol) players wouldn't make the Bronco's 53.......... If you think Bill Walsh would've still been the Genius without Montana, Rice, Taylor, ect... then you are sadly mistaken.

                                    I'm not saying coaching isn't important, but I have never seen a coach throw a pick, drop a pass, blow an assignment, miss a tackle or make a tackle (OK, maybe one coach made a tackle - looking at you Tomlin). Ask any coach, in any sport at any level and he/she will tell you players win games.

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                                      Surely the Pettine/Farmer regime needs to be given longer than a season and a half? You can't turn around a franchise that has been in the doldrums since a long time ago in that short space of time.

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                                      @deputydawg said:

                                      Surely the Pettine/Farmer regime needs to be given longer than a season and a half? You can't turn around a franchise that has been in the doldrums since a long time ago in that short space of time.

                                      yes, yes you can. two years is actually the ideal window(to see major improvements at least)

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                                        @d-bone said:

                                        Players win and lose games. Period. Problem is you can't fire the 53 of them, so the captain of the ship takes the fall.

                                        Talent on the field wins games.

                                        So why did the now 6-2 Falcons suck last year? Most of the talent is the same. The Browns on talent alone aren't great, but they are better than 2-6. Look at our coaches:

                                        Flip: Explains in detail why things went wrong and adapts his scheme to the talent he has, hence all the spread-style plays where he tries to put the little shifty guys in space. Result: the better of the two main units on this team.

                                        O'Neil: Gets fiery and defensive in press conferences when he can't explain why they suck. Plays to his players weaknesses (i.e. Kruger), doing the opposite of what Flip does on offense.

                                        Pettine: Has a cliche excuse for every question, has no problem getting his QB killed. Looks like a beaten man and won't hold his players accountable.

                                        Don't get me wrong, I don't want Pettine fired (yet), but that's mostly because hitting the reset button repeatedly hasn't worked in the past, and because I like Flip and we'd lose him if Pettine got fired, and also because there isn't really anyone better who would come here (though we could've waited for Quinn). The Browns suck this year because of the coaching, and it began in training camp. Listen to the people who watched it, all of them say how low-energy the camp was and how all these players were getting a lot of time off for minor things.

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                        Whisenhunt will end up as someone's OC and he'll do well again. It can be as simple as that is his level of competence.

                                        @osiris said:

                                        So why did the now 6-2 Falcons suck last year? Most of the talent is the same. The Browns on talent alone aren't great, but they are better than 2-6.

                                        And last year we were the overachieving team early. Take another look and you'll see the Falcons have been returning to Earth recently.

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                                          @osiris said:

                                          The Browns suck this year because of the coaching, and it began in training camp.

                                          Please. We all talk about "our talented roster", again please. A lot of our starters on defense would never see the field for the Broncos, and most of our "depth" (lol) players wouldn't make the Bronco's 53.......... If you think Bill Walsh would've still been the Genius without Montana, Rice, Taylor, ect... then you are sadly mistaken.

                                          I'm not saying coaching isn't important, but I have never seen a coach throw a pick, drop a pass, blow an assignment, miss a tackle or make a tackle (OK, maybe one coach made a tackle - looking at you Tomlin). Ask any coach, in any sport at any level and he/she will tell you players win games.

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                                          OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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                                          @d-bone said:

                                          Please. We all talk about "our talented roster", again please. A lot of our starters on defense would never see the field for the Broncos, and most of our "depth" (lol) players wouldn't make the Bronco's 53.......... If you think Bill Walsh would've still been the Genius without Montana, Rice, Taylor, ect... then you are sadly mistaken.

                                          I'm not saying coaching isn't important, but I have never seen a coach throw a pick, drop a pass, blow an assignment, miss a tackle or make a tackle (OK, maybe one coach made a tackle - looking at you Tomlin). Ask any coach, in any sport at any level and he/she will tell you players win games.

                                          I didn't say our roster is talented, I said they aren't as bad as 2-6 without some other factors. Coaches don't make tackles, but they decide how much time is spent in practice tackling, which when people don't practice tackling, they start sucking at it. Same for blowing assignments. When you don't work your players in training camp, which is what happened this year, go ask Nathan Zigura and Jim Donovan who both said as much on CBD and RBS, you end up with guys who are not where they need to be when the games start to matter.

                                          Coaching, players, it ALL matters and it impacts the wins and losses. Seattle won the Super Bowl with a bunch of late round and undrafted picks. Outside of Tom Brady and Gronk, who do the Patriots have on offense? Why is Dion Lewis so effective in New England when he got cut in Cleveland? Our. Coaches. Suck. They can't motivate. They can't scheme. If you think otherwise, you're the one who is mistaken.

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