Joe Thomas

browns52

@tacosman said:
cool....didnt get done. This tells you something about what we would have given up thomas for though.....maybe denver wanted a third instead, or maybe we wanted to not give up the fourth but a 5th. Something like that.

@bbedward said:

JT hasn't been traded, it was a premature ejaculation.

/thread

what's the difference...denver or some other team will probably get him after the season anyway and we ain't going to no playoffs just because he is still here....

bbedward

@browns52 said:
what's the difference...denver or some other team will probably get him after the season anyway and we ain't going to no playoffs just because he is still here....

He's not hurting our chances of going to the playoffs.

I think JT is pretty safe unless he wants out or we get a really high price for him. Denver was calling because their starting LT is on IR but our price was too high.

Their interest will be way lower in the off season.

Canton Dawg

@tour2ma said:
Mission accomplished...From the other side... How does Denver quibble over our 3rd vs. our 4th?Back on our side... How do we even consider a late first and a late second for JT and a 4th?

We should've sweetened the deal by throwing in Dwayne Bowe.

Tour2ma

Zombo said:
Ya, seems kinda mean now ... I will update it.

The "NOT" helped a little...

@jbluhm86 said:
In a way, he sort of reminds me of the horse from "Animal Farm". He'll be loyal to the Browns cause until he physically can't play anymore, then we'll ship him off to the glue factory in Jacksonville or Oakland or San Francisco for like a 4th rounder or something.

Not everyday we get and Orwell allusion 'round these parts...

Canton Mike

Wait, was this another "Fans quote gossip monger media statements as fact" thing again?

To quote Bob Dylan......"When will we ever learn..."

Mike

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@canton-mike said:

Wait, was this another "Fans quote gossip monger media statements as fact" thing again?

To quote Bob Dylan......"When will we ever learn..."

Mike

How is it any different than "fan doesn't like (so-and-so), he should be fired?"

Harry Taintsniffer

I didn't understand the rationale behind this idea anyway. Why trade a elite LT that wants to be on your team? Glad you guys got to keep your guy.

bbedward

@harry-taintsniffer said:
I didn't understand the rationale behind this idea anyway. Why trade a elite LT that wants to be on your team? Glad you guys got to keep your guy.

I think it was more of a "Denver's talking so we'll listen" not like we were actively shopping him.

Everybody is expendable for the right price, luckily we're smart enough to value him high (though who wouldn't be)

Harry Taintsniffer

@bbedward said:

I think it was more of a "Denver's talking so we'll listen" not like we were actively shopping him.

Everybody is expendable for the right price, luckily we're smart enough to value him high (though who wouldn't be)

Makes sense. I guess I assumed he was actively being shopped aggressively. ESPN likes to throw around assumptions lol. Good for Browns fans that the Browns stuck to their asking price.

Axe

If you are Joe Thomas.. How happy are you right now?

Canton Mike

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

How is it any different than "fan doesn't like (so-and-so), he should be fired?"

I posted an apology that I over reacted to what I SAW that angered me. Totally different than quoting the medias bullshit.

Flyin J

Joe Thomas is not an elite run blocker. Id say hes an average at best run blocker on a team who that has to run the ball to be competitive.

BaconHound

Wouldn't care if they traded Thomas. It appears by the time they get the QB and WRs they need he'll be long in the tooth and expensive.

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@canton-mike said:

I posted an apology that I over reacted to what I SAW that angered me. Totally different than quoting the medias bullshit.

Quoting a verified ESPN reporter is bullshit. You are right.

Canton Mike

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
Quoting a verified ESPN reporter is bullshit. You are right.

OMG! I didn't realize a VERIFIED Espn reporter is totally credible!! LMAO

browns52

@baconhound said:
Wouldn't care if they traded Thomas. It appears by the time they get the QB and WRs they need he'll be long in the tooth and expensive.

great point...this team is soooooo far from being a playoff contender. If they ever do become one, joe will be old and we will probably need to find another lt.We just can't sync up when we get a couple pieces together...we simply cannot find the other parts needed to become a whole. We always have 2 or 3 probowlers and then we go thru 8-9 seasons of bullshit football because we can't find the other parts and meanwhile those 2-3, 3-4 good players start getting old and have to be replaced. And the whole cycle starts over again...it's crazy...

bbedward

@flyin-j said:
Joe Thomas is not an elite run blocker. Id say hes an average at best run blocker on a team who that has to run the ball to be competitive.

He's a good,not average, run blocker and an elite pass blocker.

Elite pass blocker is the most important quality for the blind side tackle to have.

calfoxwc

Baloney. Just last year, he was the best run blocker. Give the rest of us a break from the nonsense already.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_browns_joe_thomas.html

"The season will end with an eighth consecutive trip to the Pro Bowl for No. 73. He's not only ProFootballFocus.com's highest-rated tackle, but its top-rated offensive player. He's performed at a high level while undergoing the biggest schematic chance of his career.

New offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan prefers a wide-zone blocking scheme for his run game. Thomas estimates the Browns ran such plays maybe five times a season in past years. They employed it about 20 times a game this campaign.

How did it impact Thomas? Best known for his pass protection, he's the NFL's top-rated, run-blocking tackle, according to ProFootballFocus.

"There's a reason that he's one of, if not, the best to play the position," Shanahan said."

bbedward

I said good, maybe great or excellent would be a better word

Bottom line is he's really, really good and many non-savvy people underrate what he brings to the table.

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@canton-mike said:

OMG! I didn't realize a VERIFIED Espn reporter is totally credible!! LMAO

Actually, they are. The list of verified news personnel is perpetually curated on social media sites for this exact reason.

I get that you're old, but at least plead ignorance when it comes to that there newfangled social mediums. Things are different nowadays, pop pop.