Joe Thomas
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I said good, maybe great or excellent would be a better word
Bottom line is he's really, really good and many non-savvy people underrate what he brings to the table.
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Quoting a verified ESPN reporter is bullshit. You are right.
OMG! I didn't realize a VERIFIED Espn reporter is totally credible!! LMAO
OMG! I didn't realize a VERIFIED Espn reporter is totally credible!! LMAO
Actually, they are. The list of verified news personnel is perpetually curated on social media sites for this exact reason.
I get that you're old, but at least plead ignorance when it comes to that there newfangled social mediums. Things are different nowadays, pop pop.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Baloney. Just last year, he was the best run blocker. Give the rest of us a break from the nonsense already.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_browns_joe_thomas.html
"The season will end with an eighth consecutive trip to the Pro Bowl for No. 73. He's not only ProFootballFocus.com's highest-rated tackle, but its top-rated offensive player. He's performed at a high level while undergoing the biggest schematic chance of his career.
New offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan prefers a wide-zone blocking scheme for his run game. Thomas estimates the Browns ran such plays maybe five times a season in past years. They employed it about 20 times a game this campaign.
How did it impact Thomas? Best known for his pass protection, he's the NFL's top-rated, run-blocking tackle, according to ProFootballFocus.
"There's a reason that he's one of, if not, the best to play the position," Shanahan said."
"The season will end with an eighth consecutive trip to the Pro Bowl for No. 73. He's not only ProFootballFocus.com's highest-rated tackle, but its top-rated offensive player. He's performed at a high level while undergoing the biggest schematic chance of his career."
Well that scheme was the ZBS which is a lot like pass blocking...
As said he's an elite pass blocker with excellent technique. The ZBS gave him angles to make blocks... suited him perfectly. He is a very good run blocker that the ZBS makes better.
It's power blocking that is not Joe's thing... It's not like he's a powderpuff, but he's no roadgrader either.
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Agreed - Joe is no roadgrader, but I figure there is no roadgrader in the NFL,
who can also do what Joe does. Surely the abilities are mutually exclusive.
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LoL
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Trade Joe Thomas crowd = Looney.
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OMG! I didn't realize a VERIFIED Espn reporter is totally credible!! LMAO
Actually, they are. The list of verified news personnel is perpetually curated on social media sites for this exact reason.
I get that you're old, but at least plead ignorance when it comes to that there newfangled social mediums. Things are different nowadays, pop pop.
Actually, they are. The list of verified news personnel is perpetually curated on social media sites for this exact reason.
I get that you're old, but at least plead ignorance when it comes to that there newfangled social mediums. Things are different nowadays, pop pop.
My experience is that today's media has far less credibility than in the past. NFL Network & others actually posted the Browns' re-signing of Jordan Cameron just before he signed with Miami. That's just ONE example. You & I simply chose to disagree. I can tolerate that. What I have a hard time tolerating is your arrogant, know it all attitude, & lack of respect for others. I find your penchant for childish insults & name calling almost humorous, but then I just consider the source. As we used to say in the Army, you wouldn't make a pimple on a good man's ass.
Mike
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Actually, they are. The list of verified news personnel is perpetually curated on social media sites for this exact reason.
I get that you're old, but at least plead ignorance when it comes to that there newfangled social mediums. Things are different nowadays, pop pop.
My experience is that today's media has far less credibility than in the past. NFL Network & others actually posted the Browns' re-signing of Jordan Cameron just before he signed with Miami. That's just ONE example. You & I simply chose to disagree. I can tolerate that. What I have a hard time tolerating is your arrogant, know it all attitude, & lack of respect for others. I find your penchant for childish insults & name calling almost humorous, but then I just consider the source. As we used to say in the Army, you wouldn't make a pimple on a good man's ass.
Mike
My experience is that today's media has far less credibility than in the past. NFL Network & others actually posted the Browns' re-signing of Jordan Cameron just before he signed with Miami. That's just ONE example. You & I simply chose to disagree. I can tolerate that. What I have a hard time tolerating is your arrogant, know it all attitude, & lack of respect for others. I find your penchant for childish insults & name calling almost humorous, but then I just consider the source. As we used to say in the Army, you wouldn't make a pimple on a good man's ass.
Mike
I have a hard time tolerating irrational and illogical thinking, so I guess we can call it even.
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My experience is that today's media has far less credibility than in the past. NFL Network & others actually posted the Browns' re-signing of Jordan Cameron just before he signed with Miami. That's just ONE example. You & I simply chose to disagree. I can tolerate that. What I have a hard time tolerating is your arrogant, know it all attitude, & lack of respect for others. I find your penchant for childish insults & name calling almost humorous, but then I just consider the source. As we used to say in the Army, you wouldn't make a pimple on a good man's ass.
Mike
I have a hard time tolerating irrational and illogical thinking, so I guess we can call it even.
I have a hard time tolerating irrational and illogical thinking, so I guess we can call it even.
OK, we'll call it even & let's both understand that we won't always agree OR disagree but we both can do so in a more civil fashion, so how about we shake hands & move forward with no hard feelings.
Mike
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I have a hard time tolerating irrational and illogical thinking, so I guess we can call it even.
OK, we'll call it even & let's both understand that we won't always agree OR disagree but we both can do so in a more civil fashion, so how about we shake hands & move forward with no hard feelings.
Mike
OK, we'll call it even & let's both understand that we won't always agree OR disagree but we both can do so in a more civil fashion, so how about we shake hands & move forward with no hard feelings.
Mike
Agreed.
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Zombo said:
I think I'm just going to keep the headline the way it is to freak out some people.
Zombo
F-U.
Honestly, I'm a little bummed that he didn't get traded to Denver or another playoff bound team.. JT has been such a great player his entire career and a class act; he deserves to win something, and he sure as shit isn't going to win with the Browns anytime soon.
In a way, he sort of reminds me of the horse from "Animal Farm". He'll be loyal to the Browns cause until he physically can't play anymore, then we'll ship him off to the glue factory in Jacksonville or Oakland or San Francisco for like a 4th rounder or something.
That really worked out well for Phil Dawson. Gonna end his career on another dumpster fire team in another city. And SF ain't all it's cracked up to be.
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Joe Thomas is not an elite run blocker. Id say hes an average at best run blocker on a team who that has to run the ball to be competitive.
Joe Thomas is not an elite run blocker. Id say hes an average at best run blocker on a team who that has to run the ball to be competitive.
He's ranked #2 run blocker in the league.....again.....
He's a good,not average, run blocker and an elite pass blocker.
lets just say it.....He's elite....across the board.....none better
Baloney. Just last year, he was the best run blocker. Give the rest of us a break from the nonsense already.
This year #2....must be slipping.......
Trade Joe Thomas crowd = Looney.
Omg.....I agree......miracles DO happen.....
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Joe Thomas is not an elite run blocker. Id say hes an average at best run blocker on a team who that has to run the ball to be competitive.
He's ranked #2 run blocker in the league.....again.....
He's a good,not average, run blocker and an elite pass blocker.
lets just say it.....He's elite....across the board.....none better
Baloney. Just last year, he was the best run blocker. Give the rest of us a break from the nonsense already.
This year #2....must be slipping.......
Trade Joe Thomas crowd = Looney.
Omg.....I agree......miracles DO happen.....
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Agreed - Joe is no roadgrader, but I figure there is no roadgrader in the NFL,
who can also do what Joe does. Surely the abilities are mutually exclusive.
TC...
Is it wrong to think that there is a lot more unverified reporting these days? That second sources are optional and the need to be first often trumps the need to be right?
Agreed - Joe is no roadgrader, but I figure there is no roadgrader in the NFL, who can also do what Joe does. Surely the abilities are mutually exclusive.
Today? None I can think of, but over time?
Munoz... Ogden... Pace... Jones... All were in the same class as Joe as a pass blocker and all were also road graders.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
If we gave up JT + a 3rd, for Denver's 1st and 2nd - I would be in the crowd of torches and pitchforks for Farmer's head.
Earlier report said we wanted 1st + Shaq Barrett, something like that is probably closer to the truth of what we would have taken for JT.
If we gave up JT + a 3rd, for Denver's 1st and 2nd - I would be in the crowd of torches and pitchforks for Farmer's head.
Earlier report said we wanted 1st + Shaq Barrett, something like that is probably closer to the truth of what we would have taken for JT.
If they thought Denver would part with one of their starting OLB'ers, and a stud too, in the middle of a SB hunt? OUr team is run by factual nitwits. No business being around any football operations whatsoever.
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Honestly, I'm a little bummed that he didn't get traded to Denver or another playoff bound team.. JT has been such a great player his entire career and a class act; he deserves to win something, and he sure as shit isn't going to win with the Browns anytime soon.
In a way, he sort of reminds me of the horse from "Animal Farm". He'll be loyal to the Browns cause until he physically can't play anymore, then we'll ship him off to the glue factory in Jacksonville or Oakland or San Francisco for like a 4th rounder or something.
The Browns have enough overall talent to be a playoff contender. They are missing a few key pieces.
The Browns problems are in the FO and coaching....not the on field talent.....except the most important position: QB
The Browns have enough overall talent to be a playoff contender.
um no they don't. Seriously. No they don't. They've got a few players that deserve honorable mentions
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Zombo said:
I think I'm just going to keep the headline the way it is to freak out some people.
Zombo
Me, for instance...
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I'm hoping the broncos called, and ray said "we want a first...and a second..." "OK" "...and then throw in your linebacker as well..." "umm..." "...and give us a 4th while you're at it"
Just to fuck with the broncos. Because the alternative - that he was seriously considering trading JT - is a bit troublesome. You can trade just about anyone on this team, but trade JT and there will be a full scale revolt.
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That was just wrong, Zombo.
and, I gave you a good job on that post, Chris....
(hah !)
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That was just wrong, Zombo.
and, I gave you a good job on that post, Chris....
(hah !)
You know what they say about sun shines and dogs asses. And you, my friend, are a huge dog's ass
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