Pierre Desir in the doghouse?

[letsgojackets]

I have no idea whats going on anymore with this team. Duke Johnson is barely used.

[Mudfly]

@letsgojackets said:

I have no idea whats going on anymore with this team. Duke Johnson is barely used.

Ha!....not using him last week REALLY pissed me off...

He had those 2 big plays in the first quarter....then they never went back to him the rest of the game......

maybe he got to sit as a reward for being so good in the first qtr????.....thats the only thing I can figure...

[LondonBrown]

The Duke business is crazy, he was great in Baltimore the week after his long TD in San Diego.

[bbedward]

We need a consistent #1 RB and it needs to be Johnson. Rotate the others but we need a #1 consistently. We have a different #1 every drive it seems like.

[Mark O]

@bbedward said:

We need a consistent #1 RB and it needs to be Johnson. Rotate the others but we need a #1 consistently. We have a different #1 every drive it seems like.

I don't think Johnson will hold up as an every down back.

[Opal312]

What about all the injuries this week? Browns Website lists:

Defensive backs Joe Haden (concussion), Donte Whitner (concussion) and Jordan Poyer (shoulder); wide receivers Brian Hartline (concussion) and Andrew Hawkins (concussion) and quarterback Josh McCown (shoulder/ribs) have been declared out for Cleveland’s primetime matchup at Cincinnati.

Why would they not play Gilbert as a cornerback? None of this makes sense to me?

Duke Johnson is no smaller than Darren Sproles and Sproles was great when he was young. It seems like they give up to early on the run game. Pettine is not cut out for this. He has no feel for the game or the players. He's a stiff!

[calfoxwc]

There is no doghouse, imho.

It's a matter of arrogant choices by Oneil, on switching personnel right and left,

because of perceptions about which one would be better suited...

He's turned the defense into musical chairs.

based on what, who knows. Height? weight? 40 time?

Oneil is reminding me of Phil Savage... that is very, very bad.

[letsgojackets]

@mark-o said:

I don't think Johnson will hold up as an every down back.

I'm willing to find out...

[miktoxic]

@letsgojackets said:

I'm willing to find out...

sure YOU are. maybe pettine doesn't want to see him in a wheelchair when he's 25.

[jcam222]

@opal312 said:

What about all the injuries this week? Browns Website lists:

Defensive backs Joe Haden (concussion), Donte Whitner (concussion) and Jordan Poyer (shoulder); wide receivers Brian Hartline (concussion) and Andrew Hawkins (concussion) and quarterback Josh McCown (shoulder/ribs) have been declared out for Clevelands primetime matchup at Cincinnati.

Why would they not play Gilbert as a cornerback? None of this makes sense to me?

Duke Johnson is no smaller than Darren Sproles and Sproles was great when he was young. It seems like they give up to early on the run game. Pettine is not cut out for this. He has no feel for the game or the players. He's a stiff!

Short answer on Gilbert. HE SUCKS

[nickers]

Both Wilbert Montgomery and Jim O'Neil need to go... They suck as far as position coaches go.

[gftChris]

As I recall, Bademosi was part of some special packages on D for that game, where Desir wasn't, so they figured it was easier to get Bademosi in there full time, per Pett.

I'm not sure this is a good excuse - presumably the plays don 't differ *that* much from week to week and Desir, who had played in relief of haden the week or two before, would have been well prepared? Potentially this is an insight in to why the D has been struggling - overly specialised game plans from week to week that don't allow the players to get comfortable in any of them?

[LondonBrown]

@gftchris said:

As I recall, Bademosi was part of some special packages on D for that game, where Desir wasn't, so they figured it was easier to get Bademosi in there full time, per Pett.

I'm not sure this is a good excuse - presumably the plays don 't differ *that* much from week to week and Desir, who had played in relief of haden the week or two before, would have been well prepared? Potentially this is an insight in to why the D has been struggling - overly specialised game plans from week to week that don't allow the players to get comfortable in any of them?

I think you're right, maybe it could work elsewhere but it doesn't with these players. We need to go back to basics.

[Tour2ma]

@mark-o said:

I don't think Johnson will hold up as an every down back.

He won't, but more to the point is he is not a good every-down back... use him on 3rds and in passing situations.

[Mudfly]

@tour2ma said:

... use him on 3rds and in passing situations.

Or.....use him in the first quarter.....then sit him for no reason....(consistency is important)......

[gftChris]

@mudfly said:

Or.....use him in the first quarter.....then sit him for no reason....(consistency is important)......

"I'm a big fan of you've got to ride the cold hand..." Mike Pettine, probably.

[Mudfly]

@gftchris said:

"I'm a big fan of you've got to ride the cold hand..." Mike Pettine, probably.

hahaha.....

My theory has been that the other teams "expect" us to use our best players, so Pettine tries to keep em off balance by doing the opposite.......

Duke doing great? SURPRISE! here's Turbin......

Shelton gets a sack? SURPRISE! heres John Hughes......

Desir does great filling in for Haden? SURPRISE! We're starting Bademosi.....

We WILL stop the run. SURPRISE!....we lied.....

[miktoxic]

@mudfly said:

hahaha.....

My theory has been that the other teams "expect" us to use our best players, so Pettine tries to keep em off balance by doing the opposite.......

Duke doing great? SURPRISE! here's Turbin......

Shelton gets a sack? SURPRISE! heres John Hughes......

Desir does great filling in for Haden? SURPRISE! We're starting Bademosi.....

We WILL stop the run. SURPRISE!....we lied.....

not enough accountability from pet's underlings. needs to take control and steady the ship....on both sides of the ball.