European scientists' study shows woodypeckerhead rejects science MINI ICE AGE
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Sure, but that's the case for basically anything, including oxygen. The air we breathe contains CO2 naturally, and we aren't poisoned by it.
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Water is poison if you huff it
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She is not a scientist. She is a math teacher.
She is predicting the sun will be cooler, which has nothing to do with the conditions creating climate change.
I found more than 10 articles discrediting this "research" and found none that agreed.
The Blaze is a worthless piece of shit with a massive agenda. Anyone who uses it as a source has no interest in knowing the truth about anything.
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She is not a scientist. She is a math teacher.
She is predicting the sun will be cooler, which has nothing to do with the conditions creating climate change.
I found more than 10 articles discrediting this "research" and found none that agreed.
The Blaze is a worthless piece of shit with a massive agenda. Anyone who uses it as a source has no interest in knowing the truth about anything.
The Blaze is a worthless piece of shit with a massive agenda. Anyone who uses it as a source has no interest in knowing the truth about anything.
To be fair most places have an agenda, but usually only creeps into their editorials. The Blaze power fucks it's agenda into every piece of information about anything on that website.
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There is only one woodypeckerhead, for different reasons than being wrong.
I never said the sun was the ONLY cause of climate changing. That is utter nonsense.
This has been argued many times before, and just believe me - libs have bashed CO2
as THE reason we are supposed to have a "crisis" and we're all gonna die unless
we vote for Al Gore...
CO2 has been declared a "poison" many times on this board. It's plant food.
That's when I first brought up the destruction of the earth's rainforests.
I've posted legit graphs of the direct correlation between sun activity, and global temp.
It is THAT much a significant factor. CO2 must not be very significant, because it is cooling
in spite of the fact that CO2 is climbing. So, the libs' CO2 claim was silly from the gitgo.
I'm not saying rising CO2 is a good thing - I'm saying that over-industrialization, urbanization, paving,
building, major forest fires, volcano eruptions... there are a lot of reasons our global temp is
what it is.
It's really inane for libs to harp on suv's, cows farting, and not enough money taxed and spent, etc etc etc..
all that shows is the political intent of their "emphatic declarations of crisis".
There is only one woodypeckerhead, for different reasons than being wrong.
I never said the sun was the ONLY cause of climate changing. That is utter nonsense.
This has been argued many times before, and just believe me - libs have bashed CO2
as THE reason we are supposed to have a "crisis" and we're all gonna die unless
we vote for Al Gore...
CO2 has been declared a "poison" many times on this board. It's plant food.
You're correct. CO2 is a plant food, because they "breathe" in CO2 as part of their metabolic process, and release O2. However, for those who depend on oxygen for breathing, such as....humans..., CO2 is most definitely a poison. Hence the actual medical condition Hypercapnia, or "CO2 Poisioning".
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That's when I first brought up the destruction of the earth's rainforests.
I've posted legit graphs of the direct correlation between sun activity, and global temp.
It is THAT much a significant factor. CO2 must not be very significant, because it is cooling
in spite of the fact that CO2 is climbing. So, the libs' CO2 claim was silly from the gitgo.
Both CO2 and the rainforests are significant factors in climate modulation. Plants are huge carbon sinks, so they would trap and store a great deal of CO2 in the atmosphere. Naturally, rainforests are among the biggest concentrations of plant matter on the planet, so they would be equally huge carbon sinks. In fact, scientists are already beginning to discover evidence that the Earth is beginning to green at an increased rate because of this:
The oceans are another huge carbon sink as well. The oceans can absorb huge amounts of CO2 and dissolve it into the water, reducing the amount of atmospheric CO2.
However, these carbon sinks are not infinite; they have their limits. The point at which the concentration of CO2 in a carbon sink becomes so high that the sink becomes virtually ineffective at further carbon absorption is called "saturation".
Plants, while being able to utilize CO2 as part of photosynthesis, are not infinitely able to continuously absorb it. Also referenced in the Nature article above is the fact that plants readily absorb CO2 up to the point of saturation, after which their ability as carbon sinks greatly diminishes.
And when it comes to the rainforests, the fact that they are being destroyed for logging and farmland faster than they can be replinished also reduces their ability to be a carbon sink, hence, less CO2 can be absorbed by them, leaving more CO2 to build up in the atmosphere. It's comparable to a smoker's lung being damaged by smoke, thereby reducing his or her ability to breathe effectively. The rainforests are like the Earth's lungs.
The oceans, too, are fast approaching their saturation point. When CO2 dissolves into the ocean, it reacts with the water to form carbonic acid, which slowly acidifies the ocean. As the ocean becomes more acidic, its ability to ability to abosrb CO2 will diminish. At a certain point, the ocean will become so acidic, that it will not absorb anymore CO2, which, again, will allow it to accumulate in the atmosphere:
http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/explore/pristine-seas/critical-issues-ocean-acidification/
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I'm not saying rising CO2 is a good thing - I'm saying that over-industrialization, urbanization, paving,
building, major forest fires, volcano eruptions... there are a lot of reasons our global temp is
what it is.
But again, Cal, I believe that is the point that most climate scientists are trying to make. Its not that having CO2 and other greenhouse gases is a bad thing; in the right amounts, they are critical to life on Earth. However, these greenhouse gases are already produced in sufficient amounts by natural processes. The ever increasing amounts of greenhouse gases produced by human activity can only cause harm at this point. The vast majority of scientists are warning against factors that we humans can control, not natural processes out of our hands.
It's really inane for libs to harp on suv's, cows farting, and not enough money taxed and spent, etc etc etc..
all that shows is the political intent of their "emphatic declarations of crisis".
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The Blaze is a worthless piece of shit with a massive agenda. Anyone who uses it as a source has no interest in knowing the truth about anything.
To be fair most places have an agenda, but usually only creeps into their editorials. The Blaze power fucks it's agenda into every piece of information about anything on that website.
The Blaze power fucks it's agenda into every piece of information about anything on that website.
Like I said. The Blaze is the worst news source ever. You dont go there for the truth. You go there for confirmation of your agenda.
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She is not a scientist. She is a math teacher.
She is predicting the sun will be cooler, which has nothing to do with the conditions creating climate change.
I found more than 10 articles discrediting this "research" and found none that agreed.
The Blaze is a worthless piece of shit with a massive agenda. Anyone who uses it as a source has no interest in knowing the truth about anything.
She is not a scientist. She is a math teacher.
That does not necessarily disqualify her research. Mathematicians are responsible for discovering many of the theories and equations that other scientific disiplines use, and climate modeling is very math intensive.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
The Blaze power fucks it's agenda into every piece of information about anything on that website.
Like I said. The Blaze is the worst news source ever. You dont go there for the truth. You go there for confirmation of your agenda.
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Science is just a type of math.
Math rules all
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Since we're on the subject of climate change, and how scientific studies can be misinterpreted and politicalized, I figured i'd just go ahead and post this here. This story was just released today, so you know we are soon to be inundated by more Blaze articles about scientific conspiracy theories and liberal plots. Better to just nip it in the bud now:
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Wait, what? Antarctica gaining ice despite climate change, study says
Considering it's a barren, unimaginably cold wasteland at the bottom of the world — where penguins far outnumber people — Antarctica is sure making a lot of news these days.
A recent study in the Journal of Glaciology reported that despite the effects of man-made global warming, the frozen continent is actually gaining ice rather than losing it.
The study, led by Jay Zwally, a NASA glaciologist, claims that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers, especially in eastern and central portions of the continent.
Meanwhile, another study out Monday said that the destabilization and eventual collapse of the massive West Antarctic ice sheet — because of global warming — would lead to as much as a nine-foot sea level rise worldwide, inundating coastal cities.
"What we call the eternal ice of Antarctica unfortunately turns out not to be eternal at all," said Johannes Feldmann of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. Feldmann is lead author of the second study, which appeared in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
"In our simulations, 60 years of melting at the presently observed rate are enough to launch a process which is then unstoppable and goes on for thousands of years," Feldmann said in a release.
"This certainly is a long process," Feldmann added, "but it's likely starting right now."
How is this possible — can both studies be true? Yes, said Ted Scambos, a scientist with the National Snow and Ice Data Center, who was not directly involved in either study.
Scambos said that the first study is more of a short-term look at what's happening today and over the next couple decades in Antarctica, while the other is looking long-term at what will happen over centuries or even millennia if the planet continues to warm.
Additionally, he also questioned the methodology of the first study, saying that the claim of thickening ice in some portions of Antarctica could be based on incomplete data.
Overall, the long-term trend is what's most alarming: "It is clear that further greenhouse-gas emission will heighten the risk of an ice collapse in West Antarctica and more unstoppable sea-level rise," said co-author and sea-level expert Anders Levermann, also from the Potsdam Institute.
"It might be something to worry about, because it would destroy our future heritage by consuming the cities we live in — unless we reduce carbon emission quickly."
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I also have a link to the Scientific American article dealing with this. It's a bit more heavy in the scientific jargon, but it comes to the same conclusions: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-antarctica-losing-ice-or-gaining-it/
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Antarctica gaining ice is posted by cal on here every few months. Every time it is misleading and/or inaccurate.
The last few have come down to volume vs surface area
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Man its hot today. 75 degrees in November. Must be global warming.
Just using the logic of those who deny warming every time its really cold.
Its not about facts. Its about money. And most who deny are only worried about being taxed.
If it was possible to promise no cost to tax payers. No one would deny the reality.
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That does not necessarily disqualify her research. Mathematicians are responsible for discovering many of the theories and equations that other scientific disiplines use, and climate modeling is very math intensive.
I didnt say it disqualified her research. I said she is not a scientist. She is a math teacher.
And even though math factors into much. Just being a math teacher does not make you an expert on the sun and its cycles.
Where are her credentials? Other than the Blaze liking what she says that is.
Like I said. I found evidence that she has none and that many in the scientific community discredit this report. And almost all discredit the twist that the Blaze applied. So I would like to see someone other than Cal or the Blaze saying otherwise. Someone credible would be nice.
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To be fair it's kind of ridiculous to be sweating at work 5 days into November. Dafuq is going on?
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To be fair it's kind of ridiculous to be sweating at work 5 days into November. Dafuq is going on?
To be fair it's kind of ridiculous to be sweating at work 5 days into November. Dafuq is going on?
I'm not complaining, but our office was pretty toasty since the heat was on through the weekend and earlier this week.
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It's beautiful out don't get me wrong, but the issue I have with these throwback days is that we get this cycling of weather that fuck with everyone's immune system so everyone's a veritable petry dish at these ttiems of the year.
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A major part of the mmgw biz, is the scare tactics that liberals hate, unless
they get to use scare tactics to get what they want.
And, CO2 is going up....and the earth is cooling.
The earth cools and warms in cycles.
The plain truth is, mmgw is just a theory, not fully proven at all.
The idea that CO2 IS the main factor in gw...is trashed when CO2
going up is irrevelent to temp increases and decreases.
Like a lot of other issues, mmgw is just a leftist money maker, a political
rallying cry, and a global redistribution of wealth tool.
The earlier reports of mass flooding, deserts where none use to be...
by ..eh...about ten years ago, make gore's predications and warnings
a bunch of nonsense.
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Actually it isn't religion so I'm not sure why you reject climate change evidence
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Haha, grow hemp. Harness the power of nature to a much larger extent. Solar powered cars and roads. Clean renewable fuel. It's always been on us to find a way to fix what our fathers have done. When they drew oil from the earth it started the industrial revolution. We are chasing their ghosts instead of leaving new and better ghosts to be chased. The world needs a wakeup call, and so do we.
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