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  • B BaconHound

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Wasn't it you who was shitting over using passer rating and YPG as metrics for successful QB's?

    Quite the opposite I was praising Mccown for Rating, Yards per Game as top 10 QB stats.

    @baconhound said:

    Quite the opposite I was praising Mccown for Rating, Yards per Game as top 10 QB stats.

    Oh, okay. I couldn't remember who it was.

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    B Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @baconhound said:

    How many teams draft 20 first round picks consecutively and end up with one who actually contributes to the team for five years?

    Patriots let Welker, Ty Law, Vinateri, Revis, Asanta Samuel & Seymour all go when they were All Pro caliber

    Even more reason not to trade him....lets see, team misses on every first round pick, almost every year....

    So, lets trade our best player for another shot at screwing up the draft.....hey, odds are good well hit with that pick too 😉

    And every team lets players "go" in FA, including the Browns(and Pats, amazing)....Call me when they trade their best player.....

    Your logic..."that we arent good, so we dont need good players".....just doesn't work...

    And the idea that trading a GREAT player so you can draft a PROSPECT is also a very very bad idea....

    @mudfly said:

    Even more reason not to trade him....lets see, team misses on every first round pick, almost every year....

    So, lets trade our best player for another shot at screwing up the draft.....hey, odds are good well hit with that pick too 😉

    And every team lets players "go" in FA, including the Browns(and Pats, amazing)....Call me when they trade their best player.....

    Your logic..."that we arent good, so we dont need good players".....just doesn't work...

    And the idea that trading a GREAT player so you can draft a PROSPECT is also a very very bad idea....

    i hear ya, but i think i would leave the trade decision up to joe..he has his money. There does not seem to be a superbowl in the immediate future of this organization. He needs to ask himself what is more important at this point...Playing for a championship or playing to make the fans happy by staying in cleveland and going nowhere as far as playoffs and championships....

  • I think I would use Joe Thomas as an example. Next penalty on #73 I call time out and say why don't u sit out the rest of this series Joe.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • cdl15C cdl15

    I think I would use Joe Thomas as an example. Next penalty on #73 I call time out and say why don't u sit out the rest of this series Joe.

    @cdl15 said:

    I think I would use Joe Thomas as an example. Next penalty on #73 I call time out and say why don't u sit out the rest of this series Joe.

    LoL

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @baconhound said:

    Quite the opposite I was praising Mccown for Rating, Yards per Game as top 10 QB stats.

    Oh, okay. I couldn't remember who it was.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Oh, okay. I couldn't remember who it was.

    And I don't want this to be a "bash Joe Thomas" thread. Joe is great and the teams woes aren't his fault. I just want to be practical. If you think Farmer is competent then give him as many picks as you can over the next 2 years to build his vision. If you don't fire Ray Ray keep all your players and let the next guy lay out his plan.

    The Browns are the organization who franchised tag their fucking kicker twice.

  • B BaconHound

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Oh, okay. I couldn't remember who it was.

    And I don't want this to be a "bash Joe Thomas" thread. Joe is great and the teams woes aren't his fault. I just want to be practical. If you think Farmer is competent then give him as many picks as you can over the next 2 years to build his vision. If you don't fire Ray Ray keep all your players and let the next guy lay out his plan.

    The Browns are the organization who franchised tag their fucking kicker twice.

    @baconhound said:

    The Browns are the organization who franchised tag their fucking kicker twice.

    Dawson is probably wishing he had never left.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @baconhound said:

    The Browns are the organization who franchised tag their fucking kicker twice.

    Dawson is probably wishing he had never left.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Dawson is probably wishing he had never left.

    10-14 with San Fran, Browns 9-15

    Salary $4.1 million vs $3 million

    California weather vs Cleveland weather

    Organizational History

    Thinking he is glad he left.

  • B BaconHound

    @canton-dawg said:

    Dawson is probably wishing he had never left.

    10-14 with San Fran, Browns 9-15

    Salary $4.1 million vs $3 million

    California weather vs Cleveland weather

    Organizational History

    Thinking he is glad he left.

    @baconhound said:

    10-14 with San Fran, Browns 9-15

    Salary $4.1 million vs $3 million

    California weather vs Cleveland weather

    Organizational History

    Thinking he is glad he left.

    I'm sure Phil is having a great time kicking those moral victory field goals in front of 5000 fans.

    The niners organization is a tire fire and one of the few places currently worse than Cleveland.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @baconhound said:

    10-14 with San Fran, Browns 9-15

    Salary $4.1 million vs $3 million

    California weather vs Cleveland weather

    Organizational History

    Thinking he is glad he left.

    I'm sure Phil is having a great time kicking those moral victory field goals in front of 5000 fans.

    The niners organization is a tire fire and one of the few places currently worse than Cleveland.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I'm sure Phil is having a great time kicking those moral victory field goals in front of 5000 fans.

    The niners organization is a tire fire and one of the few places currently worse than Cleveland.

    Currently but they are three years removed from the Superbowl and two years from NFC Championship

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  • B BaconHound

    @canton-dawg said:

    I'm sure Phil is having a great time kicking those moral victory field goals in front of 5000 fans.

    The niners organization is a tire fire and one of the few places currently worse than Cleveland.

    Currently but they are three years removed from the Superbowl and two years from NFC Championship

    @baconhound said:

    Currently but they are three years removed from the Superbowl and two years from NFC Championship

    Which makes things that much worse. They no longer have the HC that was the root of their success. Benched their $60 million QB. Built a brand new stadium 2-1/2 hours away from San Fran, and can't put asses in the seat. Not to mention the majority of their talented players either jumped ship or retired. Hell, if I wasn't a Browns fan I would almost feel sorry for them.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @baconhound said:

    Quite the opposite I was praising Mccown for Rating, Yards per Game as top 10 QB stats.

    Oh, okay. I couldn't remember who it was.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Oh, okay. I couldn't remember who it was.

    I'm thinking TacoBell...

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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @baconhound said:

    The Browns are the organization who franchised tag their fucking kicker twice.

    Dawson is probably wishing he had never left.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Dawson is probably wishing he had never left.

    not really, at least he played in a superbowl...his career is just about done anyway and if he was still here, he never would have stepped foot on a superbowl turf.

  • Florio calling Thomas out on a secretive deal that never transpired?

    I call bullshit on Florio....again.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • His tweet doesn't make much sense. Sounds like Thomas found out about the trade after the fact. Still a whole bunch of nothing.

    @RapSheet: And when Joe Thomas learned he was nearly traded to #Broncos, his agents smartly asked for guaranteed $ in ’16 and ’17 to remain in Denver.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • agents also try to make the best deals possible, he may not have been even aware of what his agent was trying to get

  • I suspect this had more to do with his agents negotiating for him with carte blanche powers, i.e. did not have to keep him fully informed, just look out for his best interest. That is not unusual at all.

    LOL-Just now saw your response above.

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  • Right....I see speculation on 2 separate issues here....

    1) Did he "ask" to be traded??....In the middle of the season?....I dont believe that for a minute......

    2) Did he demand guaranteed money?......how?.....he's under contract, if the Browns want to trade him, then they trade him(and his contract). He should have no say. And if he did have say, then demanded higher dollars and guarantees, isnt it possible he was just making things hard to accomplish....

    I mean.....if he wanted out so bad.....then WHY make it hard for Denver to agree.....makes no sense at all.....

  • I'd believe anything really concerning this football team. With homeless guy drafting and textgate, are you really shocked? If he wants out so what. Lebron left and most got over it. This team stinks and he's tired of the bullshit and losing. I hope wins a super bowl before he retires because he's a hard worker and seems like a good human being. How would you like to be the best tackle in the league, on a team that can't fucking sniff the postseason? Please tell me.

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  • It's bullshit. The national media knows next to zero about the Browns, and could care less about the Browns.

    It's now fashionable to prop up the favorites/front runners. There is no "underdog" mentality anymore. It's sickening.

    The national media likes to debate if guys like Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Phil Mickelson are "winners." They go as far as stating Tom Coughlin isn't a good coach, stuff like that.

    Don't buy into these national media "sources," they don't know nearly as much as the local folks who cover the team(s) on a daily basis.

    Karlis Missed
  • letsgojacketsL letsgojackets

    I'd believe anything really concerning this football team. With homeless guy drafting and textgate, are you really shocked? If he wants out so what. Lebron left and most got over it. This team stinks and he's tired of the bullshit and losing. I hope wins a super bowl before he retires because he's a hard worker and seems like a good human being. How would you like to be the best tackle in the league, on a team that can't fucking sniff the postseason? Please tell me.

    @letsgojackets said:

    I'd believe anything really concerning this football team. With homeless guy drafting and textgate, are you really shocked? If he wants out so what. Lebron left and most got over it. This team stinks and he's tired of the bullshit and losing. I hope wins a super bowl before he retires because he's a hard worker and seems like a good human being. How would you like to be the best tackle in the league, on a team that can't fucking sniff the postseason? Please tell me.

    If this is the case....then why didnt he agree to go?.....

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