Hoping I Wake Up to Pettine, O'Neil, and Farmer Fired

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@canton-dawg said:

I see your using statistical evidence and common sense in supporting your opinion.

Taco doesn't understand that type of post.

Interestingly enough, I may have just convinced myself to jump aboard the Fire Pettine bandwagon if only for one reason - New England.

They fired a coach after one year, fired his replacement after two years, took a Qb #1 overall and haven't looked back in 25 years.

I say we shit can Pettine, overpay some coach to come in, draft Paxton Lynch at #1 and then go from there. Can't hurt, right? It's the New England way, apparently.

thenew23

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

They fired a coach after one year, fired his replacement after two years, took a Qb #1 overall and haven't looked back in 25 years.

I say we shit can Pettine, overpay some coach to come in, draft Paxton Lynch at #1 and then go from there. Can't hurt, right? It's the New England way, apparently.

We have to hire a 2-time super bowl winning coach to follow that plan... Any ideas?

thenew23

@thenew23 said:
We have to hire a 2-time super bowl winning coach to follow that plan... Any ideas?

Shanahan or Coughlin? Those are our options... Coughlin would be following the Patriots model almost spot-on

Zombo

@thenew23 said:
We have to hire a 2-time super bowl winning coach to follow that plan... Any ideas?

Jimmy Fucking Johnson.

Z

thenew23

Flores and Seifert are in their late 70s, but they could fit the bill. At 85, Shula might be a tad old...

I didnt realize Coughlin is almost 70 until I looked it up...

Mark O

@thenew23 said:
We have to hire a 2-time super bowl winning coach to follow that plan... Any ideas?

Only Don Shula has won the super bowl with 2 different teams. Just because a guy has won it once or twice with one team doesn't mean it's going to happen when he moves to another team. It's been tried 500 times and it hasn't worked in nearly 40 years. If we're going to have a new HC, don't bring in some guy who's already won somewhere else, it will be the Holmgren shitshow all over again.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@thenew23 said:
Shanahan or Coughlin? Those are our options... Coughlin would be following the Patriots model almost spot-on

Hire both Gruden and Cowher simultaneously. That's two rings right there.

thenew23

@mark-o said:

Only Don Shula has won the super bowl with 2 different teams. Just because a guy has won it once or twice with one team doesn't mean it's going to happen when he moves to another team. It's been tried 500 times and it hasn't worked in nearly 40 years. If we're going to have a new HC, don't bring in some guy who's already won somewhere else, it will be the Holmgren shitshow all over again.

Hmmm. Maybe my post should've been in pink... Or whatever color a facetious comment should be...

hoorta

@canton-dawg said:

Brian Billick on Twitter when asked if the Browns should fire HC Mike Pettine.

@CoachBillick: And you propose what? Fire him? Because that's worked so well for you recently! And hire? No one wants that job.

the ONLY reason to keep Pettine around. We could do worse.

Canton Dawg

@hoorta said:
the ONLY reason to keep Pettine around. We could do worse.

Yep, fire Pet and the only guys that would interview for the job will be some D-III or community college coaches.

Unsympathetic

Manziel and Brees are exactly the same size -- 6'0, 209.

So, if Brees can see over the line, Manziel can as well.

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

But seeing as you are now a Browns fan, what would you do?

Actually in an ideal world I would keep JM, hire Carroll and have him bring Bennett with him so at least we have one pass rushing threat. But since I already follow the Seahawks, usually after the Browns play, I see no real conflict of interest. I have become attached to these lovable losers. I mean how many unique ways can you find to lose a game? The Browns are it least innovative in that way.

PS-while you are grading this week, see if you can figure out how Duke Johnson disappeared in the 2nd half.

miktoxic

and that, my friends is entertainment.

if it was UFC and they had a 'throw a small white guy in a 30 yard cage and see how long he can outrun the big black guys who think he slept with their sisters' pay=per-view match we'd be all over that.

J GLASGO

I actually don't think this teams personel is as bad as it looks.The coaching is horrible,no discipline,no accountability,poor offensive and defensive schemes,and I could go on and on.I don't go with the "nobody wants this coaching job",if somebody comes in here and turns this thing around,he will walk on water in Ohio,just as LeBron does.I will NOT renew my season tickets,with these blockheads in charge next season! TOO PAINFUL,AND NOT WORTH THE COST!!

LondonBrown

@canton-dawg said:
Yep, fire Pet and the only guys that would interview for the job will be some D-III or community college coaches.

Don't agree with this trail of thought, there are only 32 head coach jobs in the NFL after all.

bbedward

@londonbrown said:
Don't agree with this trail of thought, there are only 32 head coach jobs in the NFL after all.

Right but some high profile coaches, coordinators are pretty much guaranteed a hc job at some point. May not be willing to jump on a bad situation if it jeopardizes their reputation or future opportunities.

See a Dan Quinn or Mike Zimmer type.

Pumpkin Eater

Maybe they dont want the job because this organiztion is a joke. On any account, I understand keeping Pussine on for another year just to make the job more appealing; but the team is not improving and is in fact regressing.

Look at the Panthers. They were in salary cap hell but still kept winning (save for one or two losing seasons) But in the early stages of the organization they had some dark years. Richardson was a new owner so we can only hope Haslam figures this whole thing out like the Richardsons did.

Flugel

Kirk Ferentz was the Offensive Line Coach here the last time this franchise won a playoff game after the 94 regular season. We actually beat the NE Patriots in the first round of the playoffs after winning 11 regular season games with Vinny Testaverde at QB when that wasn't supposed to be possible. It was the best run blocking line I had seen since our 80s teams to the extent it put Leroy Hoard in the Pro Bowl at a position he didn't even play - Fullback.

Ferentz may not get as much credit as Nick Saban gets for the career after Cleveland; BUT he's undefeated in the recruiting attraction of the corn fields of Iowa. We've had 2 of his former Iowa Hawkeyes come here packing a nice work ethic. We haven't had a better Left Guard here than Eric Steinbach while Kirksey looks like he can develop into a keeper.

This is an example of a coach that isn't coming from a program fielding the most talent on the field every week when his team is playing at a high competitive level. Sometimes you get all these Ratbird DCs/Defensive Coaches getting Head Coaching gigs without Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and T.Suggs and somebody learns the truth serum. Not much different than Josh Daniels getting a NFL Head Coaching job 2 years before he reached puberty. A day without Tom Brady was like a day without sunshine for the junior hoody. I don't know if Ferentz is too old or not but our offensive line fans in here would like the way his lines traditionally play with chemistry and cohesiveness. We could do a lot worse and frequently have IMO.

hoorta

@browns52 said:
that is just it...the landscape in the nfl has changed. Especially with the inception of free agency. It is a win now or hit the road mentality. When you see a team like the raiders and bucs who were worse than us last yr making very nice strides, fans notice and wonder what the frig is up with this team. We can't get anything right. For this team, its been bad drafting, incredibly bad free agency pickups, and not so good coaching. Someone is responsible. It seems to be never ending...

I think Dansby and Whitner were decent pickups- but letting TJ Ward walk was a huge mistake. Ditto picking up the worthless Dwayne Bowe for $9 million. Yeah- when I see garbage teams turning it around like the Raiders and Jets it make me wonder when out turn to be decent will come.

@j-glasgo said:
I actually don't think this teams personel is as bad as it looks.The coaching is horrible,no discipline,no accountability,poor offensive and defensive schemes,and I could go on and on.I don't go with the "nobody wants this coaching job",if somebody comes in here and turns this thing around,he will walk on water in Ohio,just as LeBron does.I will NOT renew my season tickets,with these blockheads in charge next season! TOO PAINFUL,AND NOT WORTH THE COST!!

I won't dump my primo seats- section 111, row 9, but If anyone on this board is interested in a pair next season PM me. I'll sell them at face value.

@flugel said:

Kirk Ferentz was the Offensive Line Coach here the last time this franchise won a playoff game after the 94 regular season. We actually beat the NE Patriots in the first round of the playoffs after winning 11 regular season games with Vinny Testaverde at QB when that wasn't supposed to be possible. It was the best run blocking line I had seen since our 80s teams to the extent it put Leroy Hoard in the Pro Bowl at a position he didn't even play - Fullback.

Ferentz may not get as much credit as Nick Saban gets for the career after Cleveland; BUT he's undefeated in the recruiting attraction of the corn fields of Iowa. We've had 2 of his former Iowa Hawkeyes come here packing a nice work ethic. We haven't had a better Left Guard here than Eric Steinbach while Kirksey looks like he can develop into a keeper.

This is an example of a coach that isn't coming from a program fielding the most talent on the field every week when his team is playing at a high competitive level. Sometimes you get all these Ratbird DCs/Defensive Coaches getting Head Coaching gigs without Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and T.Suggs and somebody learns the truth serum. Not much different than Josh Daniels getting a NFL Head Coaching job 2 years before he reached puberty. A day without Tom Brady was like a day without sunshine for the junior hoody. I don't know if Ferentz is too old or not but our offensive line fans in here would like the way his lines traditionally play with chemistry and cohesiveness. We could do a lot worse and frequently have IMO.

You may be on to something Tom. If we dump Pettine, Ferentz is a great option. Haslam would have to back the Brinks truck up to get him, especially if Iowa makes the Big 10 Championship game. He'll be one hot commodity should that happen. Don't know if he'd want to leave Iowa, he's got pretty close to lifetime job security there.

gumby73

Flugel, Ferentz or DeAntonio would be my 2 great hires but when you have a FO for 10 years more concerned about drafting JM than 4 sets of Unies & than price hike your stadium I honestly don't see any Brinks truck coming up for any good hires. Some major things has got to happen between the creed of this FO to them wanting to put a winner on the field. God I hope so.. Cavs have their 4 jerseys but a Owner & GM that wants a winner in Ctown. Haslem your move..