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  • That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

    @clevfan4life said:

    That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

    Hard to say. Why do you assholes squeal like a stuck pig about the pipeline but cry like little bitches because we won't hire more union road workers?

    And of course it would make a dent. It would also make a dent our energy independence.

    WSS

  • http://www.npr.org/2015/02/25/389008046/a-hard-look-at-the-risks-of-transporting-oil-on-rail-tanker-cars

    and the railroad is already overused getting the petrol from Canada & ND down to the refineries

    to the point of possible hazardous accidents.

    Arent you libs against that? no?

  • That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

    @clevfan4life said:

    That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

    You realize the jobs that are created to support a pipeline operation? It isn't just the people working on the pipeline. Service industry people make $16 an hour to support the boom right now in North Dakota. I work in oil and gas. It isn't just the project. It is all of the supporting industries.

  • http://www.npr.org/2015/02/25/389008046/a-hard-look-at-the-risks-of-transporting-oil-on-rail-tanker-cars

    and the railroad is already overused getting the petrol from Canada & ND down to the refineries

    to the point of possible hazardous accidents.

    Arent you libs against that? no?

    @fairhooker11 said:

    http://www.npr.org/2015/02/25/389008046/a-hard-look-at-the-risks-of-transporting-oil-on-rail-tanker-cars

    and the railroad is already overused getting the petrol from Canada & ND down to the refineries

    to the point of possible hazardous accidents.

    Arent you libs against that? no?

    CSX has rail workers who are facing layoffs due to the slow down in coal. The Pipeline would give these people work.

  • Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

  • Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

    @baconhound said:

    Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

    Cool. Get started on getting everyone on board with building nuclear power plants after Fukishima and we will have this conversation again. Until then, I will keep the conversation grounded in reality.

  • Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

  • Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

    @baconhound said:

    Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

    And, the results of legalization keep pouring in

  • Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    @mld-woody said:

    Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

  • Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    @mld-woody said:

    Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    I think you can thank the left for that fear mongering.

    High time to quit being pussies about nuclear energy.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

    @baconhound said:

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

    Just to be the devil's advocate, better or worse than Chernobyl?

    WSS

  • @baconhound said:

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

    Just to be the devil's advocate, better or worse than Chernobyl?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Just to be the devil's advocate, better or worse than Chernobyl?

    WSS

    Good question. To be honest I really don't know how this will all shake scientifically or economically and it's probably speculation at this point by ecologists and economists. I will say this though Exxon and Horizon were worse from my perspective because they happened closer to the US.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

    @baconhound said:

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

    Oh, so the ocean where the spill happened is completely unuseable for the next thousand years?

  • @baconhound said:

    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

    Oh, so the ocean where the spill happened is completely unuseable for the next thousand years?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Oh, so the ocean where the spill happened is completely unuseable for the next thousand years?

    SMH, neither you nor I are capable of truly grasping how any of these accidents will resonate through all the ecosystems, economic systems, etc. so let's no be foolhardy enough to act like we know the future. However we can grasp that both nuclear energy and fossil fuels, oil and natural gas, have had negative impacts on both the environment and the economy.

  • We know for certain what happens after a nuclear plant meltdown. There is no speculation. A habitat can rebound from an oil spill.

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  • ^ No, while Berkshire Hathaway has their hands on Washington's balls tightly the railroad isn't that much to them.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    I think you can thank the left for that fear mongering.

    High time to quit being pussies about nuclear energy.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I think you can thank the left for that fear mongering.

    High time to quit being pussies about nuclear energy.

    WSS

    You're probably right. GreenPeace is full of hippy morons

  • @mld-woody said:

    Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

    Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

    1) Don't build a nuclear power plant on a fault line

    2) Don't use equipment/technology that is decades out of date

    France seems to do just fine with it.

    Nuclear power is out best option going forward. We need to educate the public on this energy source and gain public - ... who the fuck am I kidding. 28% of Americans take the Bible literally. We're still arguing over the existence of man made climate change. People are fucking stupid. It will be a long time before the American public is ready for widespread nuclear power.