Paxton Lynch
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Trade down for more second and third round players. Our track record is better with them.
WSS
Im starting to think we should just trade ALL our picks for proven players and stop trying to pick em.....better odds that way
Im starting to think we should just trade ALL our picks for proven players and stop trying to pick em.....better odds that way
Dwayne Bowe disagrees.
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Well not considering that there are plenty of guys looking for a paycheck who plan to coast for their last couple years in the league...
WSS
I said "proven"....not old and washed up.....
Dwayne Bowe disagrees.
Wasn't aware that we traded for Bowe.....(plus, see comment above)......
Example: We used a 4th to pick Mayle.....the Jets just used a 4th to get Brandon Marshall, NE used a 4th to get Randy Moss, Seattle used 4th & 5th for Marshawn Lynch, Jets got Percy Harvin for a 6th, Jimmy Graham just went to Seattle for a 4th.......
Last trade we made was a 7th for Andy Lee....(possibly one of our best players too).....
Cards recently got Carson Palmer for a 6th and 7th......etc etc etc....(there are many many more examples too)
Lots of good players can be had for a decent price....sure, some may not work out....but hows that draft been working for ya?....
Heck, if only we hit on 2 out of 5 trades, were are still better than our recent draft history......
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Well we traded cap money for Bowe.
WSS
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I see what you're saying, but my point about Dwayne Bowe was more about trading for 'proven' stars - just because they work in one place doesn't mean they're great elsewhere. Davone Bess is an example we (along with his blunts) got burnt on. Side note: stop picking up players from Miami.
I agree on Brandon Marshall, but there aren't many players who will be both available and proven quality. Carson Palmer was not 'proven' before going to AZ. Point is, assume the FAs we signed in the last year we traded a mid-round pick for. We signed them because they were 'proven' right?
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I see what you're saying, but my point about Dwayne Bowe was more about trading for 'proven' stars - just because they work in one place doesn't mean they're great elsewhere. Davone Bess is an example we (along with his blunts) got burnt on. Side note: stop picking up players from Miami.
I agree on Brandon Marshall, but there aren't many players who will be both available and proven quality. Carson Palmer was not 'proven' before going to AZ. Point is, assume the FAs we signed in the last year we traded a mid-round pick for. We signed them because they were 'proven' right?
I see what you're saying, but my point about Dwayne Bowe was more about trading for 'proven' stars - just because they work in one place doesn't mean they're great elsewhere. Davone Bess is an example we (along with his blunts) got burnt on. Side note: stop picking up players from Miami.
I agree on Brandon Marshall, but there aren't many players who will be both available and proven quality. Carson Palmer was not 'proven' before going to AZ. Point is, assume the FAs we signed in the last year we traded a mid-round pick for. We signed them because they were 'proven' right?
We have signed old cast offs in hindsight, Tramon Williams has been useless since about week three
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Right....and in the last 2 years we signed Whitner, Hawkins, Dansby, Williams, Starks, Austin, Hartline, Barnidge, Coons & McCown....who are all contributing.....
and we also signed Bowe &Tate, who busted.....(so....about an 80% plus hit rate).....
Now, compare that to our last 2 drafts......
I guess, bottom line, we can all come up with FA's that haven't worked out....Bess and Bowe being the most obvious busts.....but for every bad FA we have signed, I can show you 5 or more bad draft picks....to me, players that have excelled in the league might just be better bet than prospects....
So....2 really bad FA signings compared to 20 consecutive blown drafts....you can pick your poison, I guess, but Im game to try something new...cause repeating the same mistake over and over and over again doesnt seem to be working too well.....
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I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
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I see what you're saying, but my point about Dwayne Bowe was more about trading for 'proven' stars - just because they work in one place doesn't mean they're great elsewhere. Davone Bess is an example we (along with his blunts) got burnt on. Side note: stop picking up players from Miami.
I agree on Brandon Marshall, but there aren't many players who will be both available and proven quality. Carson Palmer was not 'proven' before going to AZ. Point is, assume the FAs we signed in the last year we traded a mid-round pick for. We signed them because they were 'proven' right?
We have signed old cast offs in hindsight, Tramon Williams has been useless since about week three
We have signed old cast offs in hindsight, Tramon Williams has been useless since about week three
Ahh....but he's playing better than the one we paid a high first round pick for....and we paid nothing....right?
and, EASILY, playing the best of all our CB's......leads the team in every positive stat....
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I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
Those stats will *definitely* transfer to the NFL. Also, we should go get Connor Shaw, who never lost a game and had a TD:INT ratio of 26:1 or something...
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I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
Wait one cotton picking second......are you actually recommending a player that isnt from A&M?......I guess miracles DO happen....
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It's a possibility.
As staunch of a supporter as I've been of this regime, I have the feeling we'll have a new coach and GM soon. So, in that thinking, I say we promote Scheiner, keep Flip, draft Lynch, and fucking let it ride.
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I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
Those stats will *definitely* transfer to the NFL. Also, we should go get Connor Shaw, who never lost a game and had a TD:INT ratio of 26:1 or something...
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We HAVE to get a franchise QB or we go absolutely nowhere with
this team. I don't know if it is Goff. Lynch,Cook,or whomever but we
need a QB. A good QB lifts the rest of the team.I haven't seen Lynch
play but he is rising in the scouting reports I have read. I have seen
Cook play quite a few games and he is impressive. Very accurate
passer.I 've seen Goff only twice and he didn't overwhelm me but
neither did David Carr when I only saw him in a few games.
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NO TRADING OUT OF THE 1ST PICK!! We need to draft talent. We also need to develop said talent. We cannot trade out again and take some DB that would have been a low 1st or 2nd rounder. We have to target a few players that if they're there when we pick, we have to pull the trigger. If Bosa is there when we pick, or if he's gone and some top shelf offensive lineman is there, or a star ILB'er that has team captain written all over him....we have to take those guys.
If we pass on a guy like Bosa and take someone that was projected as a low 1st rounder or even 2nd rounder, I quit till the next regime comes in. Cause then I know for a fact that the team is run by people who don't know football....no point in watching anymore then.
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I say we cut Farmer and draft long armed 6'5" De'Runnya Wilson out off Miss. State who had either 1st downs or TD's on 70% of his pass receptions in 2014.
Wait one cotton picking second......are you actually recommending a player that isnt from A&M?......I guess miracles DO happen....
Wait one cotton picking second......are you actually recommending a player that isnt from A&M?......I guess miracles DO happen....
Actually it was a bit tongue in cheek because of the contrast in size and reliability in the clutch. I actually think 6'2" Tyler Boyd from Pitt might be a better choice due to superior speed. I also like Treadwell out of Miss. in the 2nd round if we go for a run stopper first. Boyd won't be there anymore by then. Nor will Thomas out of OSU. A&M's top receiver/playmaker is a true freshman, but Reynolds would be good in the 3rd/4th round this year.
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Wait one cotton picking second......are you actually recommending a player that isnt from A&M?......I guess miracles DO happen....
Actually it was a bit tongue in cheek because of the contrast in size and reliability in the clutch. I actually think 6'2" Tyler Boyd from Pitt might be a better choice due to superior speed. I also like Treadwell out of Miss. in the 2nd round if we go for a run stopper first. Boyd won't be there anymore by then. Nor will Thomas out of OSU. A&M's top receiver/playmaker is a true freshman, but Reynolds would be good in the 3rd/4th round this year.
Actually it was a bit tongue in cheek ......
Ha!...I knew there was a catch!.....
Honestly though, I haven't really looked at many receivers yet......probably because I know the Farmer aint picking one....not early anyway.....( and you know it too)
I think he's planning to see what Gordon brings back, before he invests in another one.......
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I think it would be a good pick. He has the measurables, and has played well in a pro-style offense.
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He will end up being another Tim Couch! No way!
Speaking of wide receivers and Mayle. Minnesota drafted Stefon Diggs in the 5th and he's Teddy's new go to guy.
This franchise should just hire by proxy cuz no matter who's in charge it just sucks. In 2013 The Browns had 40 sacks, 2014 30 sacks
They're regressing! The draft picks they passed on is epic considering Farmer had FOUR in his first two drafts. What do we have to show? 2-7 record and on the way to the abyss
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