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  • Let's be clear. Alabama in no way deserves to jump Ohio State now that they've beaten LSU. Strength of schedule aside, who won the last head to head less than a year ago?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Let's be clear. Alabama in no way deserves to jump Ohio State now that they've beaten LSU. Strength of schedule aside, who won the last head to head less than a year ago?

    Let's be clear last year's Championship game doesn't matter. And I agree that Alabama shouldn't jump Ohio State.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Let's be clear. Alabama in no way deserves to jump Ohio State now that they've beaten LSU. Strength of schedule aside, who won the last head to head less than a year ago?

    Let's be clear last year's Championship game doesn't matter. And I agree that Alabama shouldn't jump Ohio State.

    @baconhound said:

    Let's be clear last year's Championship game doesn't matter. And I agree that Alabama shouldn't jump Ohio State.

    If the strength of schedule, which is based mostly on a team's performance in the season before, matters, how does a direct matchup of ranked teams in a playoff game from not even a calender year ago not? I mean think about that for a second.

    Also, Ohio State/Alabama was not the championship game.

  • Strength of Schedule is determined in the season you're playing.

    Oregon looked like a good win early on. It isn't anymore.

  • That may be partially true but if it were actually true we wouldn't have been whining about OSU'S strength of schedule well in advance of the actual season

  • Right, but you can still tell the relative strength of a team any season. Example, the majority of the time, Purdue isn't going to be good. No, it isn't perfect, but it can give you a rough estimate.

  • That may be partially true but if it were actually true we wouldn't have been whining about OSU'S strength of schedule well in advance of the actual season

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    That may be partially true but if it were actually true we wouldn't have been whining about OSU'S strength of schedule well in advance of the actual season

    It's ok that Ohio State hasn't beat anyone this year. Florida State didn't beat anyone last year.

  • Does Gipper still think LSU is the "class of the SEC" or whatever? That was funny. I still think, as I said, that Ohio State "limps" to 12-0. I said they either choke in the B1G championship game or lose in the semis. Even with their opponent appearing to be a very ugly Iowa team, I still feel decent about it. Not that I'm happy about it. Ohio State is one of my favorite teams.

  • Does Gipper still think LSU is the "class of the SEC" or whatever? That was funny. I still think, as I said, that Ohio State "limps" to 12-0. I said they either choke in the B1G championship game or lose in the semis. Even with their opponent appearing to be a very ugly Iowa team, I still feel decent about it. Not that I'm happy about it. Ohio State is one of my favorite teams.

    @wargograw said:

    Does Gipper still think LSU is the "class of the SEC" or whatever? That was funny. I still think, as I said, that Ohio State "limps" to 12-0. I said they either choke in the B1G championship game or lose in the semis. Even with their opponent appearing to be a very ugly Iowa team, I still feel decent about it. Not that I'm happy about it. Ohio State is one of my favorite teams.

    Have a sneaking suspicion a one loss Big 12 team won't get in, smh

  • We'll see. I predicted one would. Still feel ok about it, but again we'll see. I don't think it will be OU if that's what you're getting at, due to them having such a bad loss. I think Baylor would have to win out and beat a TCU team that goes 10-2, an OSU team that goes 11-1, etc. AND have some other flies drop in other conferences.

  • If Ohio State loses any of their remaining games, they're out (even after a 23 game winning streak as of now).

    There is just way too much Buckeye hate nationally, too much to overcome.

    'Bama looks great now, but for the life of me I cannot understand why they were given a pass for their loss, at home, to Ole Miss. Ole Miss isn't even ranked anymore.

    People talk about the SEC bias, and it is very real. What is more real is the anti-Buckeye bias.

  • If Ohio State loses any of their remaining games, they're out (even after a 23 game winning streak as of now).

    There is just way too much Buckeye hate nationally, too much to overcome.

    'Bama looks great now, but for the life of me I cannot understand why they were given a pass for their loss, at home, to Ole Miss. Ole Miss isn't even ranked anymore.

    People talk about the SEC bias, and it is very real. What is more real is the anti-Buckeye bias.

    @bob806 said:

    If Ohio State loses any of their remaining games, they're out (even after a 23 game winning streak as of now).

    There is just way too much Buckeye hate nationally, too much to overcome.

    'Bama looks great now, but for the life of me I cannot understand why they were given a pass for their loss, at home, to Ole Miss. Ole Miss isn't even ranked anymore.

    People talk about the SEC bias, and it is very real. What is more real is the anti-Buckeye bias.

    lol

  • @the-gipper said:

    I am talking about actual accomplisment. Not about what your perceptions are.

    Sorry, but if you lose, you lose. Ole Miss beat Alabama and perhaps, logically, should be rated higher.

    I mean, Ole Miss beat Ala....meaning Ole Miss was better than them.

    Two teams beat Ole Miss, and those two teams must be better than Alabama.

    Those two teams are Florida and Memphis.....and each very well may be better than Alabama and Ole Miss.

    Florida lost to LSU.....so as I see it:

    LSU better than Fla

    Fla better than Ole Miss

    Memphis better than Ole Miss

    Ole Miss better than Alabama

    LSU, Florida, Memphis, Ole Miss.....all better than Alabama

    And Saturday LSU plays Alabama....and may prove all the above absolutely accurate.

    Hopefully....or else, yea, it may all be a mess.

    Actually you aren't talking about accomplishment because Ohio State hasn't beaten anyone of consequence

    @baconhound said:

    Actually you aren't talking about accomplishment because Ohio State hasn't beaten anyone of consequence

    But neither have they lost to anyone of no consequence. Alabama lost to a now apparently so-so Ole Miss team. Their victory over LSU is now looking less and less impressive as LSU lost to Arkansas....who lost to Toledo.

    I do think that Alabama wins the SEC West....and faces off against Florida.....and that game will be much more competitive than people may think.

  • Does Gipper still think LSU is the "class of the SEC" or whatever? That was funny. I still think, as I said, that Ohio State "limps" to 12-0. I said they either choke in the B1G championship game or lose in the semis. Even with their opponent appearing to be a very ugly Iowa team, I still feel decent about it. Not that I'm happy about it. Ohio State is one of my favorite teams.

    @wargograw said:

    Does Gipper still think LSU is the "class of the SEC" or whatever? That was funny. I still think, as I said, that Ohio State "limps" to 12-0. I said they either choke in the B1G championship game or lose in the semis. Even with their opponent appearing to be a very ugly Iowa team, I still feel decent about it. Not that I'm happy about it. Ohio State is one of my favorite teams.

    I thought they were, yes. Clearly they are not. I think the SEC is very much overrated this year.

    Alabama may be the best in that conference, but like I said, Florida may have something to say about it.

    But, yes, OSU has rather been sleepwalking through the season. They need to wake up this week.

    Michigan St. can beat them. (as evidenced by the Big Ten title game 2 years ago)

    But I will take an ugly 10-0 Iowa over an ugly 9-1 team.

  • Will you take an ugly 10-0 Houston over 9-1 Alabama now? Because the committee would disagree.

    I predict it won't be a game against Florida. They don't pass much and LSU learned you can't run against Alabama.

  • UF is also down a starting QB

    (PEDs.... Ess eee see)

  • Will you take an ugly 10-0 Houston over 9-1 Alabama now? Because the committee would disagree.

    I predict it won't be a game against Florida. They don't pass much and LSU learned you can't run against Alabama.

    @wargograw said:

    Will you take an ugly 10-0 Houston over 9-1 Alabama now? Because the committee would disagree.

    I predict it won't be a game against Florida. They don't pass much and LSU learned you can't run against Alabama.

    I don't know how 10-0 is ugly. Would anyone predict Houston to win that game? Unlikely. Though I would like to see it played.

    Alabama has had a weakness against good passing spread offenses.

    As for one loss teams......Alabama's one loss is worse than say Michigan State. MSU lost on a bad call.

    Florida lost to LSU.....which is still a "better loss" than losing to Ole Miss. That game will probably play out.

    Oklahoma/TCU/Baylor/OK St. should play out. (But what if they all end up with one loss? They all stay home?)

  • UF is also down a starting QB

    (PEDs.... Ess eee see)

    @mld-woody said:

    UF is also down a starting QB

    (PEDs.... Ess eee see)

    OK, didn't know that.

  • You don't know how 10-0 is ugly? You're the one that said it was for Iowa. I was just copying what you said, with different variables.

    You look at numbers too much. Turn on the tape (or the news if you weren't aware of the Florida thing). Bama would prison rape U of freaking H. I can't believe we're even discussing this.

  • You don't know how 10-0 is ugly? You're the one that said it was for Iowa. I was just copying what you said, with different variables.

    You look at numbers too much. Turn on the tape (or the news if you weren't aware of the Florida thing). Bama would prison rape U of freaking H. I can't believe we're even discussing this.

    @wargograw said:

    You don't know how 10-0 is ugly? You're the one that said it was for Iowa. I was just copying what you said, with different variables.

    Well, I was just copying what someone else said.

    You look at numbers too much. Turn on the tape (or the news if you weren't aware of the Florida thing).

    We don't get the Bama games here that much....only the big ones like LSU. Bama taking on the weak sisters of the SEC is just not that big of a TV draw here. This is Big Ten country, we get those games.

    Bama would prison rape U of freaking H. I can't believe we're even discussing this.

    Really, then why didn't they prison rape Ole Miss who plays somewhat of a spread I believe.

    Lets put it this way.....even if they could do what you said, I would like to see that matchup.

  • Actually the SEC on CBS is a national broadcast. They were on it last week in a top 20 matchup which they won by 3+ touchdowns. They were also on it against A&M about a month ago. Both of those in addition to the LSU game. I believe they've been on it one or two other times this year as well. You don't see them because you don't want to see them. And that's fine, no one's putting a gun to your head to make you watch them, I just don't understand why you then come here and opine about them so strongly.

    My high school runs a spread. I suppose that means it'd be interesting to watch them play Bama too?

    All that said, Clemson-Bama should be an interesting game.