Tramon Williams comments
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Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?
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Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano
Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano
Haslam is stubborn and won't make changes. After his purge just a year and a half ago he does not want to look like a meddling, overreacting owner who makes changes willy nilly.
But....the fact is, this is the worst looking defense.....the most poorly managed, poorly scheme, wrongheaded utilization of talent that I have ever seen in a Browns team....and I go back to like 1962 in watching Browns teams.
The expansion team defense in 1999 looked more competent than this.
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Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?
Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?
It has happened before......if basically the entire defense goes to Pettine and says that we cannot play in this system, and they want the DC fired.....he would be gone.
What is Pettine going to do......cut the bunch of them?
The "coup" would have to be led by the veterans: Haden, Dansby, Whitner, Williams, Starks, Kruger, etc.
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The Cleveland Browns embarrassed themselves in a loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Factory of Sadness Voice of the Fan is ready to clean house.
Have you ever seen an NFL team look this SAD! The Cleveland Browns possess absolutely some of the worst offense and defense the Shield has ever known!
Ben Roethlisberger started the game on the bench. Big Ben was out with a bad foot, and would only play if backup Landry Jones went down. In true Browns fashion, Cleveland knocked out Jones on the first series of the game, which opened to the door for Roethlisberger. He was obviously very imobile and yet, the Browns pass rush was invisible! He had 379 yards, three touchdowns and an interception!
The Browns miss on draft picks also provided the fan base with tough pills to swallow.
On top of having no one who could put pressure on Big Ben, the secondary was abysmal. Pierre Desir watched seasoned receiver fly by him for a touchdown, while the Lindenwood product looked like his feet were buried cement! Cleveland hasnt got a corner or a safety that could cover an old granny using a walker! How bad must Justin Gilbert be!?! (He was inactive,by the way).
Pass interference penalties crushed the Browns. A 39-yard pass interference call against Johnson Bademosi was followed by a 38-yard interference call on Tramon Williams. The secondary is supposed to be Mike Pettines speciality, but in Pittsburgh, it probably wanted to make him puke!
And then theres the offense, and what Pettine will try and call a running game. At halftime, the offense had negative rushing yards. For the game, Browns backs Duke Johnson and Isaiah Crowell combined to carry the ball 10 times for 5 yards; 0.5 yards per carry. Are you kidding me! Manziel led all Browns rushers with 17 yards on three carries. Just an absolute embarrassment!
Cameron Erving made his long awaited first start at left guard, the position he took the least reps at in training camp. He looked like he shouldve been a fifth-round pick by how poor he played.
The lack of the receivers needed to be a real NFL team is very evident here, again! The Surfs Ray Farmer put together cant get open and have problems separating from any and all defensive backs! This is the same problem this rag-tag outfit has suffered through all year
The Browns had 12 penalties for 188 yards. Thats not disciplined football. Thats on the coaches.
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Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?
It has happened before......if basically the entire defense goes to Pettine and says that we cannot play in this system, and they want the DC fired.....he would be gone.
What is Pettine going to do......cut the bunch of them?
The "coup" would have to be led by the veterans: Haden, Dansby, Whitner, Williams, Starks, Kruger, etc.
It has happened before......if basically the entire defense goes to Pettine and says that we cannot play in this system, and they want the DC fired.....he would be gone.
What is Pettine going to do......cut the bunch of them?
The "coup" would have to be led by the veterans: Haden, Dansby, Whitner, Williams, Starks, Kruger, etc.
Dansby would be my guess for a guy who needs to speak up and who knows, maybe it has happened behind closed doors.
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Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
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Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
Then he needs to fire himself as DC along with O'Neil.
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Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
His loyalty to O'Neil will be his ticket out of Cleveland.
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Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano
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I believe that Pettine is his own worst enemy. The man HAS not, and all indications are, WILL not change. I also think he would stubbornly refuse to accept criticism from them.
I've been saying for weeks that he has to go. Just DO NOT bring Rob Ryan back.
Mike
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Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.
He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.
Well, he'll have no one else to blame but the guy in the mirror for the inevitable outcome....... It's too bad.
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I still think Flip stays, and Pettine and Oneil have to be gone.
Pettine's defense doesn't work, never has been a great defense.
The players deserve better than this stupidass micro-managing bs,
designed on paper, doesn't fly in real life on the field.
Tramon says it - the players are very frustrated at the silly complexity
at every turn.
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Benjamin says Browns can turn it around “with the right staff”
Browns wide receiver Travis Benjamin delivered an interesting answer Monday when reporters asked him about his football future.Per Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal, Benjamin responded to a question about the Browns’ poor record changing his personal outlook for the future by saying, in part, that “as long as we get the right pieces in here and the right staff and anything we need to make this team great, I’m willing to stick by for the long haul.”The current coaching staff won’t much like “the right staff” part.It’s just a quote, one that history says will be followed with some sort of clarification. These things happen, especially during 2-8 seasons.Benjamin’s breakout season has come in the final season of his rookie contract. He’s been especially productive with Johnny Manziel at quarterback and had his third game of 100-plus yards receiving in Sunday’s loss at Pittsburgh. Benjamin had 2 touchdown catches in Manziel’s first start of the season in Week 2. On the season, Benjamin has 48 catches for 736 yards and 4 touchdowns.Benjamin was a fourth-round pick in 2012; that was two Browns administrations ago. Though Benjamin has always been a dangerous return man, his previous career best for receptions in a season was 18. -
Tramon Williams couldn't stay with a trash can. Only the Browns are dumb enough to add him at his salary. Glad he is now the voice of reason.
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Benjamin says Browns can turn it around “with the right staff”
Browns wide receiver Travis Benjamin delivered an interesting answer Monday when reporters asked him about his football future.Per Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal, Benjamin responded to a question about the Browns’ poor record changing his personal outlook for the future by saying, in part, that “as long as we get the right pieces in here and the right staff and anything we need to make this team great, I’m willing to stick by for the long haul.”The current coaching staff won’t much like “the right staff” part.It’s just a quote, one that history says will be followed with some sort of clarification. These things happen, especially during 2-8 seasons.Benjamin’s breakout season has come in the final season of his rookie contract. He’s been especially productive with Johnny Manziel at quarterback and had his third game of 100-plus yards receiving in Sunday’s loss at Pittsburgh. Benjamin had 2 touchdown catches in Manziel’s first start of the season in Week 2. On the season, Benjamin has 48 catches for 736 yards and 4 touchdowns.Benjamin was a fourth-round pick in 2012; that was two Browns administrations ago. Though Benjamin has always been a dangerous return man, his previous career best for receptions in a season was 18."Benjamin says Browns can turn it around “with the right staff”
Browns wide receiver Travis Benjamin delivered an interesting answer Monday when reporters asked him about his football future.Per Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal, Benjamin responded to a question about the Browns’ poor record changing his personal outlook for the future by saying, in part, that “as long as we get the right pieces in here and the right staff and anything we need to make this team great, I’m willing to stick by for the long haul.”The current coaching staff won’t much like “the right staff” part.It’s just a quote, one that history says will be followed with some sort of clarification. These things happen, especially during 2-8 seasons.Benjamin’s breakout season has come in the final season of his rookie contract. He’s been especially productive with Johnny Manziel at quarterback and had his third game of 100-plus yards receiving in Sunday’s loss at Pittsburgh. Benjamin had 2 touchdown catches in Manziel’s first start of the season in Week 2. On the season, Benjamin has 48 catches for 736 yards and 4 touchdowns.Benjamin was a fourth-round pick in 2012; that was two Browns administrations ago. Though Benjamin has always been a dangerous return man, his previous career best for receptions in a season was 18.Glad Benjamin wasn't vocal after the three turds he had against St. Louis, Arizona and Cincy, oh shit they actually play defense, smh.
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Tramon Williams couldn't stay with a trash can. Only the Browns are dumb enough to add him at his salary. Glad he is now the voice of reason.
Tramon Williams couldn't stay with a trash can. Only the Browns are dumb enough to add him at his salary. Glad he is now the voice of reason.
I was thinking the same thing, the guy is like 32 yrs old and his best games are behind him. He got torched in Shittsburgh, and now his ego is hurt.
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Tramon Williams couldn't stay with a trash can. Only the Browns are dumb enough to add him at his salary. Glad he is now the voice of reason.
Tramon Williams couldn't stay with a trash can. Only the Browns are dumb enough to add him at his salary..
You really have nothing to base this on.....he is one of the top rated CB's right now, as well as one the top 2-3 defensive players on the Browns...
Dont know what your metrics are, but he has the 8th lowest catch % in the league and holds QB's to one of the lowest QBR ratings in the league(definitely on the Browns).....he also is 7th in the league in CB tackles......plus, gets paid just a touch more than Skrine and is crushing him in every single stat there is....(so, good move for the Browns)....
This season, his numbers are even better than Richard Sherman, Brent Grimes and compare favorably to Peterson too.....look it up
So.....what do you base your info on?.....and please dont tell me your "eye's".....(cause they'd be wrong)
He got torched in Shittsburgh, and now his ego is hurt.
Um.....no he didnt.....gave up 2 passes in 5 targets.....for 23 whole yds....
Gaines got torched.....Desir got torched.......Bademosi got torched......all gave up BIG plays(50+ yarders) and a high percentage of their targets...
Traymon(who was playing the #1 to cover for Haden) had a very solid game and was EASILY our best DB in the Shittsburg game...
Maybe you 2 should clean your glasses...
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Right Mud-he is not the problem, but this system and/or DC sure is. And Gilbert may be flawed but he still plays better than what we saw out there with the other 3.
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Tramon was the perfect fit to play opposite Haden, IF we would've seen the Haden we expected. Right now, as a CB1 he is playing quite admirably. Fans are terrible at judging CBs because the only time you see them on TV is when they get a PI or give up a big play. It's a thankless position. I don't see Tramon very much on Sundays... that means he's doing his job very well...
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Right Mud-he is not the problem, but this system and/or DC sure is. And Gilbert may be flawed but he still plays better than what we saw out there with the other 3.
Right Mud-he is not the problem, but this system and/or DC sure is. And Gilbert may be flawed but he still plays better than what we saw out there with the other 3.
I agree.....I really wanted to see him play again, but thinking Pettine has some serious issue with him.....
He was asked about Gilbert yesterday and basically offered with a one word terse response.....just dont get it.....
And, after listening to Traymons comments, I think he wants Gilbert to play too.....
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