Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I am absolutely PUMPED that Johnny is starting but he will have his ups & downs. Hopefully, Fans will understand that & the ups will outweigh the downs. I think we have a QB who will generate a LOT of excitement.
Mike
Hopefully, Fans will understand that & the ups will outweigh the downs.
Mike
you mean the same chance fans will give coaching staffs?
LOL.
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Weve given up the most sacks, we can't run the ball, we lead the league in false starts and are like top 5 in holds. PFF cant rate offensive line play obviously.I will be reposting this in every single thread where someone asserts that the O line is terrible.
The O-line is the second best in the league.
The problem with the run game is not the O line.
If you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong. If being wrong is your thing, don't change!
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Like I've said I love Josh McCown. The guy has balls.
Good to know that after a couple weeks rest and healing if we need him he's there.
Now get out there and kick some ass Johnny.
WSS
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As much as I want the Browns to win, Joey Bosa at the #1 pick is very intriguing.....
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You've got zero backing that up. Your words mean nothing.
Unless and until you show something MORE accurate and MORE applicable than pff's methods, they are correct.
They are so wildly inconsistent with their rankings that is why they are bullshit. I can come up with a system where I throw darts at numbers if that makes you feel better.
They are so wildly inconsistent with their rankings that is why they are bullshit. I can come up with a system where I throw darts at numbers if that makes you feel better.
Less talk, more action. You've got nothing.
Until you show your analytic system which is more accurate than PFF, you will continue to be wrong.
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As much as I want the Browns to win, Joey Bosa at the #1 pick is very intriguing.....
As much as I want the Browns to win, Joey Bosa at the #1 pick is very intriguing.....
There are so many teams tied with us, no way we get #1 pick
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As much as I want the Browns to win, Joey Bosa at the #1 pick is very intriguing.....
There are so many teams tied with us, no way we get #1 pick
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PFF top 3 Players from Sundays Steelers Browns game Johnny Manziel, Nate Orchard and Joe Thomas. That for both teams not just the Browns.
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Well what the hell Manzgina sucks , so I say Suck for BOSA baby!!!!
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I am already betting Manzgina will be dead in the next game


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Worthless picks Manzgina, Quinn, Weeden...What do they all have in common they was all picked in the 2nd half of the 1st round. THEY SUCK!!!!!!
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Pet just went puppet strings. We get a presser Monday that tells us we will have to have a conversation on our starter & JM was not cleared yet by NFL on protocol list? To 16 hours later. JM announced starter Rest Of Season. Few hours later, NFL announces JM cleared. First I believe the announcement forced the league to make a to long awaiting decision that lead back to his rehab & a list? But with this creed in the FO to put butts in the seats, why the hell not go back to plan A? JM does that not Josh? OK JM we our going into a bye don't get caught in a bad deal, or else? There is no way I see any changes from Pettines staff to make anything better to favor JM Game when they call it he went off script..
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PFF top 3 Players from Sundays Steelers Browns game Johnny Manziel, Nate Orchard and Joe Thomas. That for both teams not just the Browns.
PFF top 3 Players from Sundays Steelers Browns game Johnny Manziel, Nate Orchard and Joe Thomas. That for both teams not just the Browns.
Once again showing PFF numbers mean jackshit
http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2014/06/can-pro-football-focus-stats-be-blindly-trusted
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As much as I want the Browns to win, Joey Bosa at the #1 pick is very intriguing.....
There are so many teams tied with us, no way we get #1 pick
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And who the hell wants the first pic anyway?
WSS
You are right lets go 8-8!!! I love the 17th pick!!
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When Josh Gordon comes back next year, Johnny will have his bearings, took his lumps and Good ol' Josh Gordon can run right underneath those bombs ala Antonio Brown. Keep Benji, pick either one of Hawk or Gabe and cut Bowe. Keep Hartline. Pick up another WR threat in the Draft. Get a FB. Tryout Trent Richardson and see where he's at, if he's gotten better we could double-dip in the draft.
Good god I was with you right up till when you went off the mental rails with Richardson.When Josh Gordon comes back next year, Johnny will have his bearings, took his lumps and Good ol' Josh Gordon can run right underneath those bombs ala Antonio Brown. Keep Benji, pick either one of Hawk or Gabe and cut Bowe. Keep Hartline. Pick up another WR threat in the Draft. Get a FB. Tryout Trent Richardson and see where he's at, if he's gotten better we could double-dip in the draft.
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They are so wildly inconsistent with their rankings that is why they are bullshit. I can come up with a system where I throw darts at numbers if that makes you feel better.
Less talk, more action. You've got nothing.
Until you show your analytic system which is more accurate than PFF, you will continue to be wrong.
Less talk, more action. You've got nothing.
Until you show your analytic system which is more accurate than PFF, you will continue to be wrong.
There are numerous examples of how wildly inconsistent their ratings system is. Rainman, I will get back to you when I have an equally dicked up system that can fleece analytics dorks.
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Now it gets real. He has 6 games to show the Browns and Browns fans that they no longer need to worry about the QB position in the future. Get close to the 95 rating week to week for those games and that should do it. Difficult to accomplish with such a depleted (Gabriel and Hawkins under concussion protocol at the moment) and smallish receiving corps, but Josh was able to do it so he should too. And who knows what the fuck is up with Bowe, injury or doghouse or just there for the check.
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