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2016 DRAFT who's your boy?

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  • gumby73 gumby73G Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    Glad to see the LT train at WR. Treadwell is a Dez look a like with a hell of a go get the ball radius. Decisions on Johnny & Josh Gordon would help but I cannot pass on a guy like Bosa with our needs on D as our first pick. Treadwell as second pick with Gordon, even better. QB's are a total crabshoot to get close to Carr or Bortles talent imo.

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      Too early to answer this question..not that I'd have a real serious opinion one way or another. But we have to wait and see what the next 6 (hopefully) games bring from Johnny to know whether he's the guy for next year or if we're looking for a QB.

      Best case scenario in my opinion....Johnny plays well each week, some ups and downs are to be expected but he puts up good numbers and makes good decisions and we win a few, 3-3 is not a ridiculous expectation. If he plays well, regardless of the record, we don't need a QB in round 1 next year and we can draft a QB eating linebacker from jerkwater A&M.

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      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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      @mark-o said:

      Too early to answer this question..not that I'd have a real serious opinion one way or another. But we have to wait and see what the next 6 (hopefully) games bring from Johnny to know whether he's the guy for next year or if we're looking for a QB.

      Best case scenario in my opinion....Johnny plays well each week, some ups and downs are to be expected but he puts up good numbers and makes good decisions and we win a few, 3-3 is not a ridiculous expectation. If he plays well, regardless of the record, we don't need a QB in round 1 next year and we can draft a QB eating linebacker from jerkwater A&M.

      LOL-well my A&M has crappy LB's so please don't get them from there. Now 2017 with DE Garrett is a totally different story. Find a way to trade up for him.

      I'd have no problem with Bosa, but if he is gone then Treadwell for sure. Elliott will go in the 1st, but Henry is a big power back with breakaway speed we should take early 2nd round regardless of who we take in the 1st (unless it's Elliott). This team desperately needs a big powerful straitaway back to put fear in LB's and open up JM's PA options.

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        @mark-o said:

        Too early to answer this question..not that I'd have a real serious opinion one way or another. But we have to wait and see what the next 6 (hopefully) games bring from Johnny to know whether he's the guy for next year or if we're looking for a QB.

        Best case scenario in my opinion....Johnny plays well each week, some ups and downs are to be expected but he puts up good numbers and makes good decisions and we win a few, 3-3 is not a ridiculous expectation. If he plays well, regardless of the record, we don't need a QB in round 1 next year and we can draft a QB eating linebacker from jerkwater A&M.

        LOL-well my A&M has crappy LB's so please don't get them from there. Now 2017 with DE Garrett is a totally different story. Find a way to trade up for him.

        I'd have no problem with Bosa, but if he is gone then Treadwell for sure. Elliott will go in the 1st, but Henry is a big power back with breakaway speed we should take early 2nd round regardless of who we take in the 1st (unless it's Elliott). This team desperately needs a big powerful straitaway back to put fear in LB's and open up JM's PA options.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        LOL-well my A&M has crappy LB's so please don't get them from there. Now 2017 with DE Garrett is a totally different story. Find a way to trade up for him.

        Jerkwater A&M was a generic college...meaning I could care less where he comes from....I just hope that he wants to eat QB's for breakfast lunch and dinner. Lawrence Nitchkis is who i'm looking for...nothing specific..

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          bigbaddawgjrB bigbaddawgjr wrote on last edited by
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          BOSA!!!! There is no QB worth the #1 pick. With us starting Manzgina we won't win another game this year. 2-14 oh yeah!!!!

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            An OLB.

            They actually have OLBs that MIGHT be fine.......if the coaches knew how to use them. Mingo....yes, Mingo. Let him pass rush. Kruger. Armonty. Nate Orchard.

            Again, I look at each individual player on this defense and I see a lot of talent. Grossly misused talent.

            A WR ...big, tall fast would be useful.

            Otherwise just take the best damn player available.

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            @the-gipper said:

            They actually have OLBs that MIGHT be fine.......if the coaches knew how to use them. Mingo....yes, Mingo. Let him pass rush. Kruger. Armonty. Nate Orchard.

            Again, I look at each individual player on this defense and I see a lot of talent. Grossly misused talent.

            A WR ...big, tall fast would be useful.

            Otherwise just take the best damn player available.

            That's true actually. They might be ok. So are you are on my "it's Pettine's fault not Farmer's" train then, right?

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              69, Garrett ain't no top 5 pick anymore. Not at the moment.

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                WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                Bosa or Connor Cook if we go the QB route

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                  Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                  Not sure, it's early.

                  BOSA / OSU

                  Adolphus Washington/ OSU

                  A quarterback but not sold on Connor Cook or Paxton Lynch who they say needs to be developed.

                  We could steal Braxton Miller or JT Barret if he were to declare

                  Wide receiver is a glaring need but I would go with Bosa or Adolphus Washington first.

                  Browns probably already addressing these possibilities

                  I think drafting first you'd sort of have to take Bosa. Bosa is the real deal! Not like that bust Jadevon Clowney. And everyone knew he sucked.

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                    Lynch in a trade down

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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      Bosa and Elliott I'd be happy with, depending on where we pick. But it's all gonna come down to what Johnny can do in the next six games, and whether we need to take a QB.

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                        69, Garrett ain't no top 5 pick anymore. Not at the moment.

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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        @wargograw said:

                        69, Garrett ain't no top 5 pick anymore. Not at the moment.

                        Every team now schemes for him in 3 ways. First and foremost, extremely short passing game to get the ball out within 2 seconds or less. 2nd double and triple team and 3rd run a lot against our sorry LB crew up the middle. They also try to roll out to the other side a lot and throw/run off that. They do similar things to Bosa now too (without the sorry LB statement), but it does not appear to be hurting his draft stock. Bosa has a better D crew to work with right now than does Garrett, and frankly not near the caliber of opponent week to week. He'll go high anyway. So I'll stand by my top 5 and likely top 3.

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                          L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                          As you can imagine dont get to see much college ball here but that Treadwell WR looks a stud, I very much doubt we'd take a WR that high though.

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                            As you can imagine dont get to see much college ball here but that Treadwell WR looks a stud, I very much doubt we'd take a WR that high though.

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            @londonbrown said:

                            As you can imagine dont get to see much college ball here but that Treadwell WR looks a stud, I very much doubt we'd take a WR that high though.

                            Have you seen *any* coverage? I don't remember any even for the playoffs.

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                              @londonbrown said:

                              As you can imagine dont get to see much college ball here but that Treadwell WR looks a stud, I very much doubt we'd take a WR that high though.

                              Have you seen *any* coverage? I don't remember any even for the playoffs.

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                              @gftchris said:

                              Have you seen *any* coverage? I don't remember any even for the playoffs.

                              Yeah I have a bit as I have BT/ESPN.

                              I also have an android box with Kodi on now and all the US Sports channels are on there, best £40 I've ever spent!

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                It's on BT? OK, interesting. I have Sky, so don't get as much. I use Mobdro which gets US channels though.

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                                  L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                  Yeah BT show college games every Saturday. Modbro looks similar to what I use, hadn't heard of it til now.

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                                    Bosa's TFL stats I did not know, and they are mind blowing. So not only is he one of the most elite pass rushers over the past few years but he actually has the most TFL's by a defensive player than anyone in college the last few years? Did I read that right? I mean I knew he had absolute textbook form holding lineman off of him and getting to the runner, I just didn't realize he led everybody. Wow. A run stopping DE/DL? Also potentially can be used as a dropback DE or hybrid OLB'er in a zone....don't they call these kids 5 tools or something? I mean this fucker is ridiculous.

                                    We cannot let this dude land in the north somewhere other than Cleveland.

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                                      @mark-o said:

                                      Too early to answer this question..not that I'd have a real serious opinion one way or another. But we have to wait and see what the next 6 (hopefully) games bring from Johnny to know whether he's the guy for next year or if we're looking for a QB.

                                      Best case scenario in my opinion....Johnny plays well each week, some ups and downs are to be expected but he puts up good numbers and makes good decisions and we win a few, 3-3 is not a ridiculous expectation. If he plays well, regardless of the record, we don't need a QB in round 1 next year and we can draft a QB eating linebacker from jerkwater A&M.

                                      LOL-well my A&M has crappy LB's so please don't get them from there. Now 2017 with DE Garrett is a totally different story. Find a way to trade up for him.

                                      I'd have no problem with Bosa, but if he is gone then Treadwell for sure. Elliott will go in the 1st, but Henry is a big power back with breakaway speed we should take early 2nd round regardless of who we take in the 1st (unless it's Elliott). This team desperately needs a big powerful straitaway back to put fear in LB's and open up JM's PA options.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      LOL-well my A&M has crappy LB's so please don't get them from there. Now 2017 with DE Garrett is a totally different story. Find a way to trade up for him.

                                      I'd have no problem with Bosa, but if he is gone then Treadwell for sure. Elliott will go in the 1st, but Henry is a big power back with breakaway speed we should take early 2nd round regardless of who we take in the 1st (unless it's Elliott). This team desperately needs a big powerful straitaway back to put fear in LB's and open up JM's PA options.

                                      We are done drafting fucking Alabama RBs in the first round.

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        LOL-well my A&M has crappy LB's so please don't get them from there. Now 2017 with DE Garrett is a totally different story. Find a way to trade up for him.

                                        I'd have no problem with Bosa, but if he is gone then Treadwell for sure. Elliott will go in the 1st, but Henry is a big power back with breakaway speed we should take early 2nd round regardless of who we take in the 1st (unless it's Elliott). This team desperately needs a big powerful straitaway back to put fear in LB's and open up JM's PA options.

                                        We are done drafting fucking Alabama RBs in the first round.

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        We are done drafting fucking Alabama RBs in the first round.

                                        GB did just fine with Lacy and Henry has a lot more in common with him than he does with "Tiny" Richardson.

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                                          jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                          I think it's safe to say that we're going to have a top five pick. Honestly, we could easily have the #1 or #2 pick, as I don't see too many games we can win, and Johnny simply doesn't have the running game or viable weapons to help him score touchdowns. Johnny made some progress, but he's going to struggle more this year. Defensive coordinators will be all over him once more tape is available, and we'll have to adjust on the fly. And adjusting on the fly, isn't exactly what our team is good at.

                                          So let's say we have the #4 pick, just as an example. I do like Bosa, and I like how disruptive he is. But the guy I really like and think has the most upside is my alma mater's very own Jalen Ramsey. He's a playmaking machine, and I think he can be a force in the NFL. I expect him to move to safety, but he might remain at corner. Regardless, he's an excellent blitzer, tackler, and is prone for big plays. I completely realize that taking a safety/corner that high seems nuts, and maybe it is...but he's the guy I want. And I want him BADLY.

                                          Is Josh Gordon back? Can he finally keep his head out of his ass? A betting man would say no, but there's always a chance. If we cut ties with him, which makes no sense, maybe we look at Laquon Treadwell at WR? 6'2 and plays bigger than his size. A true #1 WR option, which is what this team so desperately needs.

                                          I'd rather have a healthy Josh Gordon, but we all know too well the risks he brings.

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