Power5 drafting policy
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Cheers mate! And sorry to be a pain, but is D2 defensive secondary then?
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I kind of agree with it though. Yeah you might find some amazing wkt warriors in smaller schools, but you never see film of them against elite opposition. If there is film of some kid from a smaller school playing against the big boys and he excels, ok now you've got something. I personally would never use a high draft pick on someone that I don't see film of in college playing against the upper echelon of talent. Won't do it. I'll use the later rounds for the kids from smaller schools that I feel I may be able to develop.,
I kind of agree with it though. Yeah you might find some amazing wkt warriors in smaller schools, but you never see film of them against elite opposition. If there is film of some kid from a smaller school playing against the big boys and he excels, ok now you've got something. I personally would never use a high draft pick on someone that I don't see film of in college playing against the upper echelon of talent. Won't do it. I'll use the later rounds for the kids from smaller schools that I feel I may be able to develop.,
I know that some of these guys from smaller schools get invites to play in the Senior Bowl......which is run by NFL coaches and scouts. So a number of them that get drafted highly are because they have displayed their wares against the best of the big school players and have held their own....in practice and in the game.
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Khalil Mack would think otherwise.
Exactly.....he is the perfect example of a small school player who a lot of people discounted only because of where he played...
BUT....he did have a MONSTER game against Ohio State and I remember a lot of folks saying thats all they needed to trust his talent....so, while some said it was just one game....others said WOW, he's up to the task....
Exactly.....he is the perfect example of a small school player who a lot of people discounted only because of where he played...
BUT....he did have a MONSTER game against Ohio State and I remember a lot of folks saying thats all they needed to trust his talent....so, while some said it was just one game....others said WOW, he's up to the task....
And the Browns should have taken him instead of trading down for Gilbert.....in hindsight.
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Cheers mate! And sorry to be a pain, but is D2 defensive secondary then?
Division two college school. British by any chance?Cheers mate! And sorry to be a pain, but is D2 defensive secondary then?
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Id go one further, and in the top 4 rounds only draft from schools who are winning big recently. Id stick primarily to OSU, MSU, ALA, AUB, GA, FSU, MISS, WIS, OKL, CLEM and ORE. These players will typically be top recruits from high school who showed they can play on a big stage. I want guys in the later rounds who have top notch athleticism and may have dropped for off the field reasons.
Id go one further, and in the top 4 rounds only draft from schools who are winning big recently. Id stick primarily to OSU, MSU, ALA, AUB, GA, FSU, MISS, WIS, OKL, CLEM and ORE. These players will typically be top recruits from high school who showed they can play on a big stage. I want guys in the later rounds who have top notch athleticism and may have dropped for off the field reasons.
Supposedly the Bengals philosophy is to take the players from the big schools because they have played in the spotlight.....in front of huge crowds and on National TV and in pressure situations.
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Id go one further, and in the top 4 rounds only draft from schools who are winning big recently. Id stick primarily to OSU, MSU, ALA, AUB, GA, FSU, MISS, WIS, OKL, CLEM and ORE. These players will typically be top recruits from high school who showed they can play on a big stage. I want guys in the later rounds who have top notch athleticism and may have dropped for off the field reasons.
Supposedly the Bengals philosophy is to take the players from the big schools because they have played in the spotlight.....in front of huge crowds and on National TV and in pressure situations.
Supposedly the Bengals philosophy is to take the players from the big schools because they have played in the spotlight.....in front of huge crowds and on National TV and in pressure situations.
Bengals of course are famed for really thriving under he pressure of big prime time games.
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Supposedly the Bengals philosophy is to take the players from the big schools because they have played in the spotlight.....in front of huge crowds and on National TV and in pressure situations.
Bengals of course are famed for really thriving under he pressure of big prime time games.
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London now Essex gftChris. And yes, those Bungals are on that slide downwards. You can just see it now- gifting the Division to the Stoolers by losing to the Cards, Broncos and Stoolers (and the Browns) and then flopping out in the Wild card round yet again. So much hope dashed every year in the same manner! I hope they don't do this should any little tiggers be reading this, primarily because I don't want the Stoolers to win the Division.
Out of interest, what's the rivalry like between the Browns and Bengals?
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London now Essex gftChris. And yes, those Bungals are on that slide downwards. You can just see it now- gifting the Division to the Stoolers by losing to the Cards, Broncos and Stoolers (and the Browns) and then flopping out in the Wild card round yet again. So much hope dashed every year in the same manner! I hope they don't do this should any little tiggers be reading this, primarily because I don't want the Stoolers to win the Division.
Out of interest, what's the rivalry like between the Browns and Bengals?
London now Essex gftChris. And yes, those Bungals are on that slide downwards. You can just see it now- gifting the Division to the Stoolers by losing to the Cards, Broncos and Stoolers (and the Browns) and then flopping out in the Wild card round yet again. So much hope dashed every year in the same manner! I hope they don't do this should any little tiggers be reading this, primarily because I don't want the Stoolers to win the Division.
Out of interest, what's the rivalry like between the Browns and Bengals?
Depends on who you ask. Browns and Steeler fans have a bigger rivalry. Browns fan hate Ravens worse probably due to their method of origination.
But if you asked Art Modell......he hated the Bengals most because of Paul Brown. He respected the Steelers, but did not hate them. He had good relations with the Rooneys. But he and Paul Brown basically hated each other.
As for now, between the fans.....The Bengals are still the weak little sister in the state despite their recent success and the Browns failures.
Others may have to testify, but if you ask Hoorta and others who live down that way, the Bengals probably have more fans in Kentucky than in Ohio. The line of demarcation between Browns and Bengals fans is somewhere around Dayton...which is probably 50/50.
Columbus is probably somewhat of a FRAK town......whoever is winning they may go for, but in reality I think it is more 75-80% Brownstown if push comes to shove. If both are good, it is Browns.
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Khalil Mack would think otherwise.
Exactly.....he is the perfect example of a small school player who a lot of people discounted only because of where he played...
BUT....he did have a MONSTER game against Ohio State and I remember a lot of folks saying thats all they needed to trust his talent....so, while some said it was just one game....others said WOW, he's up to the task....
I always thought that Mack was just a big fish in a small pond. But yeah....the Ohio State game made me a believer.Exactly.....he is the perfect example of a small school player who a lot of people discounted only because of where he played...
BUT....he did have a MONSTER game against Ohio State and I remember a lot of folks saying thats all they needed to trust his talent....so, while some said it was just one game....others said WOW, he's up to the task....
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London now Essex gftChris. And yes, those Bungals are on that slide downwards. You can just see it now- gifting the Division to the Stoolers by losing to the Cards, Broncos and Stoolers (and the Browns) and then flopping out in the Wild card round yet again. So much hope dashed every year in the same manner! I hope they don't do this should any little tiggers be reading this, primarily because I don't want the Stoolers to win the Division.
Out of interest, what's the rivalry like between the Browns and Bengals?
London now Essex gftChris. And yes, those Bungals are on that slide downwards. You can just see it now- gifting the Division to the Stoolers by losing to the Cards, Broncos and Stoolers (and the Browns) and then flopping out in the Wild card round yet again. So much hope dashed every year in the same manner! I hope they don't do this should any little tiggers be reading this, primarily because I don't want the Stoolers to win the Division.
Out of interest, what's the rivalry like between the Browns and Bengals?
Another cockney, welcome aboard !
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London now Essex gftChris. And yes, those Bungals are on that slide downwards. You can just see it now- gifting the Division to the Stoolers by losing to the Cards, Broncos and Stoolers (and the Browns) and then flopping out in the Wild card round yet again. So much hope dashed every year in the same manner! I hope they don't do this should any little tiggers be reading this, primarily because I don't want the Stoolers to win the Division.
Out of interest, what's the rivalry like between the Browns and Bengals?
Another cockney, welcome aboard !
Another cockney, welcome aboard !
First things first, living in Essex you must be a Liverpool fan, or United?
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Cheers gftChris. Season ticket holder for West Ham Utd mate. Essex is Hammers country. You?
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Cheers gftChris. Season ticket holder for West Ham Utd mate. Essex is Hammers country. You?
Cheers gftChris. Season ticket holder for West Ham Utd mate. Essex is Hammers country. You?
Villa. Not sure what I did to deserve both them and the browns.
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Wow! At least the PM and a Prince also support Villa. So who are the Browns biggest (if they have any) non Divisional rivals? I'm guessing its local teams like Detroit and Chicago?
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Wow! At least the PM and a Prince also support Villa. So who are the Browns biggest (if they have any) non Divisional rivals? I'm guessing its local teams like Detroit and Chicago?
Wow! At least the PM and a Prince also support Villa. So who are the Browns biggest (if they have any) non Divisional rivals? I'm guessing its local teams like Detroit and Chicago?
Denver. I'm guessing you're relatively new to the NFL and browns, so here's some recommended reading to help you feel the pain!
A football life - Paul Brown (new so you may struggle)
- late in the 4th quarter of the AFC championship game - winner to go to the superbowl - the browns have a TD lead, and the kickoff pins the broncos at the 1 yard line. John Elway picks this moment to really move in to 'elite' status - a year later, the browns are marching down the field in the rematch, again AFC championship game, only this time, *we're* going to win it! Until Ernest Byner fumbles at the 1 yard line, denver recovers, end of game.Any list of starting QBs since the return in 99
I'm sure others have suggestions too but this is a good start!
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Those first two should tell you everything you need to know about why Art Modell is the single most hated man in Cleveland.
Basically, the browns had paul brown - the best coach of all time, basically, he completely revolutionised everything about the game almost. Art Modell, some upstart slick knob decides to buy the club on credit, doesn't like Brown being the 'big shot' around town, so fires him, after a power struggle. The browns went from being a so-called dynasty, to an afterthought.
Fast forward 30 years, and Bill Bilichek is appointed HC. We're on to a good thing, clearly, I mean this guy is the second coming of Paul Brown. The staff he brings together is now littered around the NFL and college - Ozzie Newsome, the now legendary general manager of the Ravens, Nick Saban, the top coach in recent college history, I don't know how many more that went on to become GMs or HCs around the country.
Art Modell decides in his infinite wisdom to move the team to Baltimore - some lame excuse about the city helping to fund a stadium. They take the players and staff, though BB left. Newsome has gone on to build multiple superbowl winning teams that basically should have been Cleveland's, starting in 2000.
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I mean seriously, if the browns aren't stolen from Cleveland, we have Ozzie Newsome as GM and Bill Belichick as HC. Fuck. Fucking fucking Art Modell.
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Cheers gftChris. I know the 96 treachery and the treatment of Brown part as this was why I became a Browns fan. The injustice and treachery hit a nerve!! Up until 96-99 I was basically just following the NFL and didn't really have any favourites though overtime it got narrowed down to the Buffalo Bills and Browns. When the Browns returned it was the only team for me. Its only in the last couple of years I've started really reading in to it and following the progress through the whole year not just in the autumn, I mean Fall. Some of the game day technicalities/play calls and terminology I'm not quite up to speed on- but generally yes I'm a rookie at this. I have another year left on my season ticket at West Ham (Stratford year) then I'm thinking of spending the equivalent on the Browns each year (including hoping to travel to watch a game in October). I'm a member of the British BullDawgs Browns Backers and have been ever since they started in fact, but I don't travel in to Leicester Square each Sunday preferring to stay at home and follow games. My wife designed the original emblem.
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I used to post on another Browns board many moons ago, but only briefly. There was a guy called Limaguy on there who was great. Can't remember the board name though.
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