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    Yes, I know; I was assuming that if Lewis were cut or one of the backs got hurt, he might be a guy we'd turn to.

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    Aloysius said:

    Yes, I know; I was assuming that if Lewis were cut or one of the backs got hurt, he might be a guy we'd turn to.

    I don't see any reason to even risk harrison as the feature back. We need a bruiser / slasher tandem. Just frickin keep jamal. We can talk about drafting a big back to groom, or wait till next year and just replace jamal. But its not like the guy can't play football anymore.

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      Aloysius said:

      Yes, I know; I was assuming that if Lewis were cut or one of the backs got hurt, he might be a guy we'd turn to.

      I don't see any reason to even risk harrison as the feature back. We need a bruiser / slasher tandem. Just frickin keep jamal. We can talk about drafting a big back to groom, or wait till next year and just replace jamal. But its not like the guy can't play football anymore.

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      Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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      AdaM said:

      I don't see any reason to even risk harrison as the feature back. We need a bruiser / slasher tandem. Just frickin keep jamal. We can talk about drafting a big back to groom, or wait till next year and just replace jamal. But its not like the guy can't play football anymore.

      This is what I'd like to see happen as well. Give Harrison 180 to 200 carries. If he ends up being a solid #1 back he could get a few more. Lewis could get 100 to 150 carries depending on Harrison's success.

      Speaking of big brusing type of backs, it's why I like the Scott kid from LSU. Or Blount out of Oregon. He's a monster.

      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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        Well, my hope was that Andre Brown or Cedric Peerman would slide to us in Round 4, but that doesn't seem likely after both of them lit up the Combine. Whether or not I'd be happy with Donald Brown at #36 would depend on which defensive players were available at that spot. Either way, I don't expect him to get out of Round 1.

        And I'm not sure about Harrison being the "main guy" - yes, he should get more touches, but would bringing in a RB in the 2nd Round to split time with him be such a bad thing? If Lewis is cut and/or Harrison gets hurt, would you be satisfied with Jason Wright toting the rock 25 times a game? Or a Day 2 guy like P.J. Hill or Arian Foster? We really need to find out whether Jamal's sticking around before we reject the idea of taking a RB at #36.

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        Aloysius said:

        Well, my hope was that Andre Brown or Cedric Peerman would slide to us in Round 4, but that doesn't seem likely after both of them lit up the Combine. Whether or not I'd be happy with Donald Brown at #36 would depend on which defensive players were available at that spot. Either way, I don't expect him to get out of Round 1.

        And I'm not sure about Harrison being the "main guy" - yes, he should get more touches, but would bringing in a RB in the 2nd Round to split time with him be such a bad thing? If Lewis is cut and/or Harrison gets hurt, would you be satisfied with Jason Wright toting the rock 25 times a game? Or a Day 2 guy like P.J. Hill or Arian Foster? We really need to find out whether Jamal's sticking around before we reject the idea of taking a RB at #36.

        I really do think it would be a bad thing considering the huge holes we have on defense and considering some of the really good defensive players that will be there at #36a nd at #50

        I'm not a huge fan of an elite tailback being necessary for taking you to the promised land. Neither of these two teams in this year's super bowl had an elite type back. The Patriot teams were solid but never elite with the likes of an aging Corey Dillon or Kevin Faulk. Defense, defense, defense.

        As I have said, I'd look for the second tailback in 2010.

        Ther are any number of guys I like there. Kruger, Barwin, Maybin, Hood, Laurinaitis, English, Chung.

        Actually a combination of any of these two would thrill me at #36 and #50. Barwin at #36 and Hood at #50?

        Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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          Hey, you don't need to convince me to go all out building our defense. As you can probably tell from all the Curry fandom, it's the side of the ball I get really excited about. I'm just saying that Brown, a late Round 1 guy, might be too good to pass up if he's available at #36, especially if we end up dumping Lewis.

          I like English and Hood. Kruger's 4.8 40 doesn't excite me much, especially since I haven't seen him show much explosiveness (though I haven't seen a lot of him). Also, he only has one kidney, which is considered by some to be a medical red flag.

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            Yes, I know; I was assuming that if Lewis were cut or one of the backs got hurt, he might be a guy we'd turn to.

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            Aloysius said:

            Yes, I know; I was assuming that if Lewis were cut or one of the backs got hurt, he might be a guy we'd turn to.

            i don't understand why we haven't resigned him already. despite his shortcomings, wright's a decent 3rd down back. i wouldn't want him getting 15 carries in a game, but he picks up blitzers well and can catch the ball better than any other back on the team.

            as far as lewis goes, we can better spend the money we'd save by cutting him. while i agree with the bruiser/slasher combo, lewis isn't bruising anyone anymore. he can't generate the momentum to be a punishing back and has essentially turned into ron dayne. it would leave us thin at RB, but even nick goings is a comparable back to late-career jamal lewis, and he's on the market right now.

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              Hey, you don't need to convince me to go all out building our defense. As you can probably tell from all the Curry fandom, it's the side of the ball I get really excited about. I'm just saying that Brown, a late Round 1 guy, might be too good to pass up if he's available at #36, especially if we end up dumping Lewis.

              I like English and Hood. Kruger's 4.8 40 doesn't excite me much, especially since I haven't seen him show much explosiveness (though I haven't seen a lot of him). Also, he only has one kidney, which is considered by some to be a medical red flag.

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              Aloysius said:

              Hey, you don't need to convince me to go all out building our defense. As you can probably tell from all the Curry fandom, it's the side of the ball I get really excited about. I'm just saying that Brown, a late Round 1 guy, might be too good to pass up if he's available at #36, especially if we end up dumping Lewis.

              I like English and Hood. Kruger's 4.8 40 doesn't excite me much, especially since I haven't seen him show much explosiveness (though I haven't seen a lot of him). Also, he only has one kidney, which is considered by some to be a medical red flag.

              I guess my thinking is that there are so many big time, high quality guys on defense in the first 50 picks that this is the year you can't draft anything but defense. I think Connor Barwin would be a much bigger steal at #36. When I watch highlights of this kid I just love his athleticism. Between his speed on the rush and even his abilty to block kicks the kid could be a great one. If he and Brown would both be there at #36 I'd be all over Barwin.

              I like Hood a lot too. It'll be interesting to see where he goes. I've seen him in mocks go as high as 32 to the Steelers and as low as late 2nd round.

              Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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                Unfortunately, Tyrell Sutton wasn't able to improve upon his Combine numbers at his pro day. He ran two 40's timed at 4.66 and 4.68 seconds. He also posted a 30" vertical, three inches lower than he jumped at the Combine.

                He's probably locked in as a 7th Round/UDFA type.

                EDIT: A different source has Sutton running 4.57 and 4.67 40's.

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                  According to TFY Draft, Shonn Greene had a very good pro day. He ran his 40 between 4.53 and 4.56 seconds, posted a 39" vertical and a 10'6" broad jump.

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                    bringing in noah herron, and if we keep j LEWIS( WHICH IS LIKELY FROM MANGINI'S WORDS), don't think we are going Rb this year.

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                      TheJokersWILD said:

                      I completely agree. What we have at RB now is unproven and we still have the veteran Lewis to guide Harrison and Allen Patrick along. I would like to see CJ Spiller in a Browns uni 🙂

                      I like Spiller a lot too. He reminds me so much of the Titan's Chris Johnson.

                      The little stutter step he can make to get players to miss is really special.

                      He's so interesting to watch because I think he looks stiff in the hips but yet he's great at making players miss.

                      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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