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  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Statement from Davey Blackburn on the murder of his wife: http://resonateindianapolis.com/2015/11/statement-from-davey-blackburn/

    Sorry, provide a link? I thought I did.

    And why would they be likely to support President Obama? Seriously?

    (even so that really doesn't make much difference in this case, I just put it in to fuck with you guys. 😉 )

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Sorry, provide a link? I thought I did.

    You provided links to ABC News and Slate, but I was referring to Facebook one which said the wife was targeted specifically because of her religion. When I checked the Pastor's FB, I couldn't find mention of it. I'm not saying it wasn't there; maybe it was posted there earlier, in the heat of the moment, and deleted later on; which is perfectly understandable given the situation. In either case, I'd be reluctant to call it a religious hate crime until more evidence emerges that leads to that conclusion, so I'll reserve my judgement for now.

    And why would they be likely to support President Obama? Seriously?

    (even so that really doesn't make much difference in this case, I just put it in to fuck with you guys. 😉 )

    WSS

    No, I understood right away that you were not being completely serious, but there are others here on the board that might not have picked up on it as readily and would then proceed to make a...*ahem*..."knee jerk"...response to it, so that's why I posted my counter point.

    But to answer your question from earlier, no, I do not think it is ok that this woman was raped and murdered, irregardless of whether or not her religion played a role in its perpetration.

  • People wouldn't be trying to "politicize" that poor womans rape and murder would they?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    The bible says satan is god of this world. 2 Cor. 4:4 (because of Adam's sin). There are works of God and works of the devil. I don't praise God FOR everything but I praise God in spite of everything. I don't give thanks for obvious works of satan but I still praise God in spite of them knowing there is a better future planned.

    have you ever thought or considered that just maybe...you've been forcefed an incredibly rudimentary, simplistic and childish explanation for the universe? I mean it was your god that had people sacrificing animals to him cause he allegedly enjoyed the smell of burning animal flesh. Now does that sound like the, if I may use Transformers cannon for a moment, does that sound like the "all spark" to you?

    @clevfan4life said:

    have you ever thought or considered that just maybe...you've been forcefed an incredibly rudimentary, simplistic and childish explanation for the universe? I mean it was your god that had people sacrificing animals to him cause he allegedly enjoyed the smell of burning animal flesh. Now does that sound like the, if I may use Transformers cannon for a moment, does that sound like the "all spark" to you?

    I understand where you are coming from. The bible does give many of the answers to our questions but they get dismissed as being too simplistic. It is still easier for me to believe in God who is the creator and spoke a universe into being over believing all this came from nothing.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    have you ever thought or considered that just maybe...you've been forcefed an incredibly rudimentary, simplistic and childish explanation for the universe? I mean it was your god that had people sacrificing animals to him cause he allegedly enjoyed the smell of burning animal flesh. Now does that sound like the, if I may use Transformers cannon for a moment, does that sound like the "all spark" to you?

    I understand where you are coming from. The bible does give many of the answers to our questions but they get dismissed as being too simplistic. It is still easier for me to believe in God who is the creator and spoke a universe into being over believing all this came from nothing.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I understand where you are coming from. The bible does give many of the answers to our questions but they get dismissed as being too simplistic. It is still easier for me to believe in God who is the creator and spoke a universe into being over believing all this came from nothing.

    Those two concepts are literally the same.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Sorry, provide a link? I thought I did.

    You provided links to ABC News and Slate, but I was referring to Facebook one which said the wife was targeted specifically because of her religion. When I checked the Pastor's FB, I couldn't find mention of it. I'm not saying it wasn't there; maybe it was posted there earlier, in the heat of the moment, and deleted later on; which is perfectly understandable given the situation. In either case, I'd be reluctant to call it a religious hate crime until more evidence emerges that leads to that conclusion, so I'll reserve my judgement for now.

    And why would they be likely to support President Obama? Seriously?

    (even so that really doesn't make much difference in this case, I just put it in to fuck with you guys. 😉 )

    WSS

    No, I understood right away that you were not being completely serious, but there are others here on the board that might not have picked up on it as readily and would then proceed to make a...*ahem*..."knee jerk"...response to it, so that's why I posted my counter point.

    But to answer your question from earlier, no, I do not think it is ok that this woman was raped and murdered, irregardless of whether or not her religion played a role in its perpetration.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    But to answer your question from earlier, no, I do not think it is ok that this woman was raped and murdered, irregardless of whether or not her religion played a role in its perpetration.

    I posted the only when I saw her. And I don't think it furthers a conversation by using a word like specifically. Anytime you narrow anything down like using the words every or all or specifically, somebody will start to scream 'but wait maybe there is one person!!!'

    As for is not always being completely serious, which you noticed, I can't help the way other posters comprehend what I have to say.

    😉

    WSS

  • Cal can give an answer to every question you may have. That doesn't mean they're correct, or have any supporting evidence.

    So your excuse when bad things happen and you don't want to associate god with them is to sat Satan did it? That's very convenient.

  • Cal can give an answer to every question you may have. That doesn't mean they're correct, or have any supporting evidence.

    So your excuse when bad things happen and you don't want to associate god with them is to sat Satan did it? That's very convenient.

    @mld-woody said:

    Cal can give an answer to every question you may have. That doesn't mean they're correct, or have any supporting evidence.

    So your excuse when bad things happen and you don't want to associate god with them is to sat Satan did it? That's very convenient.

    Good things happen - god did it.

    Bad things happen - satan did it. Or, god is testing you. Or, people have free will.

  • Cal can give an answer to every question you may have. That doesn't mean they're correct, or have any supporting evidence.

    So your excuse when bad things happen and you don't want to associate god with them is to sat Satan did it? That's very convenient.

    @mld-woody said:

    That's very convenient.

    There's actually a very ancient but very clever methodology behind that. I hope one day people wake up to what's been done to them but I am not hopeful in the slightest.

  • There is no free will

  • @mld-woody said:

    Cal can give an answer to every question you may have. That doesn't mean they're correct, or have any supporting evidence.

    So your excuse when bad things happen and you don't want to associate god with them is to sat Satan did it? That's very convenient.

    Good things happen - god did it.

    Bad things happen - satan did it. Or, god is testing you. Or, people have free will.

    @gftchris said:

    Good things happen - god did it.

    Bad things happen - satan did it. Or, god is testing you. Or, people have free will.

    @mld-woody said:

    Cal can give an answer to every question you may have. That doesn't mean they're correct, or have any supporting evidence.

    So your excuse when bad things happen and you don't want to associate god with them is to sat Satan did it? That's very convenient.

    Then the bible conveniently revealed that truth many centuries ago.

  • And woodypeckerhead would like to peck everybody elses' pecker,

    but nobody would let him.... except for cleve, maybe.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I could never be that type of Christian to see my wife brutally raped and killed and say all things work for good to them that love God. Never. What happened is NOT the work of God. If it were I would want no part of a God like that. If there is no doubt to the guilt of those involved I would have them before a firing squad in less than 30 days. That would be justice.

    Is that not one of the main features of christianity, an omniscient omnipotent god?

    @gftchris said:

    Is that not one of the main features of christianity, an omniscient omnipotent god?

    That is the belief, yes. And yet evil persists in the world, so if there is a God, he is either:

    1) impotent; being unable to stop evil from happening and save his followers, or

    2) at best, indifferent to the sufferings of good people in the world, or, at worst, malicious by actively allowing these things to happen as some fucked up test of loyality.

    Or, most likely, there is no personal God who actively intervenes in the lives of people, and the universe rains on both the just and unjust alike.

  • look up "angelic conflict"

  • Angels were supposedly created by God. God is supposedly omnipotent and omnipresent, which means that, logically, it should be well within his power stop any conflict, supernatural or otherwise from happening, and to prevent his creations from acting maliciously. And yet, evil still exists in the world.

    Again, God is either impotent, indifferent, sinister, or fictional.

  • @gftchris said:

    Is that not one of the main features of christianity, an omniscient omnipotent god?

    That is the belief, yes. And yet evil persists in the world, so if there is a God, he is either:

    1) impotent; being unable to stop evil from happening and save his followers, or

    2) at best, indifferent to the sufferings of good people in the world, or, at worst, malicious by actively allowing these things to happen as some fucked up test of loyality.

    Or, most likely, there is no personal God who actively intervenes in the lives of people, and the universe rains on both the just and unjust alike.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    That is the belief, yes. And yet evil persists in the world, so if there is a God, he is either:

    1) impotent; being unable to stop evil from happening and save his followers, or

    2) at best, indifferent to the sufferings of good people in the world, or, at worst, malicious by actively allowing these things to happen as some fucked up test of loyality.

    Or, most likely, there is no personal God who actively intervenes in the lives of people, and the universe rains on both the just and unjust alike.

    From what I read about Albert Einstein he was one who believed in God but could not believe in a personal God because of some of the very things you listed. I think it is easier to see that there is a Creator God in all of this but It is harder to believe in a personal God however the bible is clear that God is a personal God and the cross is enough proof of that to me as a believer. The answers to the questions most skeptics have of a personal God are revealed in the bible.

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  • Angels were supposedly created by God. God is supposedly omnipotent and omnipresent, which means that, logically, it should be well within his power stop any conflict, supernatural or otherwise from happening, and to prevent his creations from acting maliciously. And yet, evil still exists in the world.

    Again, God is either impotent, indifferent, sinister, or fictional.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Angels were supposedly created by God. God is supposedly omnipotent and omnipresent, which means that, logically, it should be well within his power stop any conflict, supernatural or otherwise from happening, and to prevent his creations from acting maliciously. And yet, evil still exists in the world.

    Again, God is either impotent, indifferent, sinister, or fictional.

    Or is either above or outside that particular fray since the Lord perceives and understands the universe in yways we are unable to.

    WSS

  • And woodypeckerhead would like to peck everybody elses' pecker,

    but nobody would let him.... except for cleve, maybe.

    @calfoxwc said:

    And woodypeckerhead would like to peck everybody elses' pecker,

    but nobody would let him.... except for cleve, maybe.

    please, you and westside steve go ass to ass over a big two ender every day here.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    And woodypeckerhead would like to peck everybody elses' pecker,

    but nobody would let him.... except for cleve, maybe.

    please, you and westside steve go ass to ass over a big two ender every day here.

    @clevfan4life said:

    please, you and westside steve go ass to ass over a big two ender every day here.

    That's some reinforcement for the natural Pavlovian reaction to think of Cleve when I think of a big two headed dildo.

    WSS