Mayock's New Top 20
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Ballpeen, unless in the last year where I haven't been able to watch him Mayock turned into one of those guys that just want to make noise, he isn't one of those guys. He has always been a film break down guy and is usually pretty dead on when he starts making talking up a player for round 1. I can think of 3 guys he has done that with in recent years:
1. In 2006 he was talking up Cutler as the best QB in the draft when no one else really was. Pretty dead on so far for that one.
2. In 2005 he was talking up Merriman and Ware as the best OLB in a 3-4 prospects in the draft. He really talked up Merriman, who wasn't as known going in initially.
3. Last year he was talking up Flacco before others.
Like I said, unless Mayock has changed, if he is talking up this guy, I'd bet on Mayock being correct about him.
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Ballpeen, unless in the last year where I haven't been able to watch him Mayock turned into one of those guys that just want to make noise, he isn't one of those guys. He has always been a film break down guy and is usually pretty dead on when he starts making talking up a player for round 1. I can think of 3 guys he has done that with in recent years:
1. In 2006 he was talking up Cutler as the best QB in the draft when no one else really was. Pretty dead on so far for that one.
2. In 2005 he was talking up Merriman and Ware as the best OLB in a 3-4 prospects in the draft. He really talked up Merriman, who wasn't as known going in initially.
3. Last year he was talking up Flacco before others.
Like I said, unless Mayock has changed, if he is talking up this guy, I'd bet on Mayock being correct about him.
Masters said:
Ballpeen, unless in the last year where I haven't been able to watch him Mayock turned into one of those guys that just want to make noise, he isn't one of those guys. He has always been a film break down guy and is usually pretty dead on when he starts making talking up a player for round 1. I can think of 3 guys he has done that with in recent years:1. In 2006 he was talking up Cutler as the best QB in the draft when no one else really was. Pretty dead on so far for that one.
2. In 2005 he was talking up Merriman and Ware as the best OLB in a 3-4 prospects in the draft. He really talked up Merriman, who wasn't as known going in initially.
3. Last year he was talking up Flacco before others.
Like I said, unless Mayock has changed, if he is talking up this guy, I'd bet on Mayock being correct about him.
I wasn't on this board at the time, but i talked up Cutler in a Big, big way
Can't say i was all that high on Meriman, but i pimped Ware big as well...
Can't say I talked up Flacco....I did see him play when he lead his team to the championship game here in Chattanooga.
My point is all these guys....not just Mayock....turn it into something harder than it is.
If some old fat ass in Chattanooga could identify Cutler at Vandy and Ware at Troy as darn good players. it can't be that darn hard.
I do give them credit...they know more of the players......but heck, if that is what you are paid to do, you might as well give it a couple of hours a day.
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Mayock loves Ayers and if you watch the tape he was/is a damn monster.
He was good, not great. Ayers only notched three sacks last year, though he had an additional four as a situational rusher in '07.
The problem is it was a 1 year spike in performance so teams are trying to evaluate how legit he is and whether or not the risk a high selection. You can bet your ass if he did what he did last season a additional time he'd be a top 15 selection. Watch the tape the dude is a beast. He also had a solid senior bowl and I can't recall his combine numbers at the moment.
He had an incredible Senior Bowl, but his Combine numbers weren't all too impressive - 4.77 40, 4.51 shuttle, 7.58 3-cone, 29.5" vert, 18 reps of 225. Not the kind of numbers that would boost his draft stock.
Ayers also was charged with assault back in '05 after he & Jerod Mayo beat up a college student. So character might be an issue.
I really like what he does on the field. He could be a Justin Tuck-type 4-3 DE, and he may be athletic enough to play 3-4 OLB. But I don't think he's the 5th best player in this year's draft; I'm surprised Mayock has him that high.
Aloysius said:
He was good, not great. Ayers only notched three sacks last year, though he had an additional four as a situational rusher in '07.He had an incredible Senior Bowl, but his Combine numbers weren't all too impressive - 4.77 40, 4.51 shuttle, 7.58 3-cone, 29.5" vert, 18 reps of 225. Not the kind of numbers that would boost his draft stock.
Ayers also was charged with assault back in '05 after he & Jerod Mayo beat up a college student. So character might be an issue.
I really like what he does on the field. He could be a Justin Tuck-type 4-3 DE, and he may be athletic enough to play 3-4 OLB. But I don't think he's the 5th best player in this year's draft; I'm surprised Mayock has him that high.
Mayock almost always grabs on to one dude he loves and builds up throughout the entire process. Last season that guy was Rashard Mendenhall.
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Masters said:
Ballpeen, unless in the last year where I haven't been able to watch him Mayock turned into one of those guys that just want to make noise, he isn't one of those guys. He has always been a film break down guy and is usually pretty dead on when he starts making talking up a player for round 1. I can think of 3 guys he has done that with in recent years:1. In 2006 he was talking up Cutler as the best QB in the draft when no one else really was. Pretty dead on so far for that one.
2. In 2005 he was talking up Merriman and Ware as the best OLB in a 3-4 prospects in the draft. He really talked up Merriman, who wasn't as known going in initially.
3. Last year he was talking up Flacco before others.
Like I said, unless Mayock has changed, if he is talking up this guy, I'd bet on Mayock being correct about him.
I wasn't on this board at the time, but i talked up Cutler in a Big, big way
Can't say i was all that high on Meriman, but i pimped Ware big as well...
Can't say I talked up Flacco....I did see him play when he lead his team to the championship game here in Chattanooga.
My point is all these guys....not just Mayock....turn it into something harder than it is.
If some old fat ass in Chattanooga could identify Cutler at Vandy and Ware at Troy as darn good players. it can't be that darn hard.
I do give them credit...they know more of the players......but heck, if that is what you are paid to do, you might as well give it a couple of hours a day.
I wasn't on this board at the time, but i talked up Cutler in a Big, big way
Can't say i was all that high on Meriman, but i pimped Ware big as well...
Can't say I talked up Flacco....I did see him play when he lead his team to the championship game here in Chattanooga.
My point is all these guys....not just Mayock....turn it into something harder than it is.
If some old fat ass in Chattanooga could identify Cutler at Vandy and Ware at Troy as darn good players. it can't be that darn hard.
I do give them credit...they know more of the players......but heck, if that is what you are paid to do, you might as well give it a couple of hours a day.
I am just saying, Mayock ain't one of those guys. He doesn't turn it into anything harder. He always goes by game tape, not combine, or pro day work outs. Usually the guy that just jumped because of the last two is the first guy Mayock will rip on tape, if the tape doesn't match the combine/pro day work.
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I understand.....he seems like a good egg.
No beef here on that point.
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Masters said:
I would certainly agree with you on most of the others
I'll take Alo over anybody. He had Curry pegged as a stud before a lot of us even knew of him all that well. Now he's looking at being the best player in the draft.
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Masters said:
I would certainly agree with you on most of the othersI'll take Alo over anybody. He had Curry pegged as a stud before a lot of us even knew of him all that well. Now he's looking at being the best player in the draft.
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Not to diminish Alo.....he is in to it more than i, and knows more than i in this regard but i have noted Curry since last year....for some reason several Wake games have been on I decided to watch for one reason or another.
I follow college football, and due to my location, i get a high dose of SEC and ACC games. This is SEC country, but Ga Tech is 100 miles down the road, and Clemson is 100 miles away as the crow fly's, so ACC is aired on a regular basis......mostly Wake, Clemson and Ga Tech.....a good many local prep players end up at those schools.
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Heck sent me a PM way back in September about how much he liked Curry and teammate Alphonso Smith. All I had to do was watch the Ole Miss game...and fall in love.
I'm just playing McShay to Heck's Kiper.
I guess that makes ballpeen "the goof"
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Heck sent me a PM way back in September about how much he liked Curry and teammate Alphonso Smith. All I had to do was watch the Ole Miss game...and fall in love.
I'm just playing McShay to Heck's Kiper.
I guess that makes ballpeen "the goof"
Aloysius said:
Heck sent me a PM way back in September about how much he liked Curry and teammate Alphonso Smith. All I had to do was watch the Ole Miss game...and fall in love.I'm just playing McShay to Heck's Kiper.
I guess that makes ballpeen "the goof"
I want the Steelers to draft Alphonso.
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Heck sent me a PM way back in September about how much he liked Curry and teammate Alphonso Smith. All I had to do was watch the Ole Miss game...and fall in love.
I'm just playing McShay to Heck's Kiper.
I guess that makes ballpeen "the goof"
Aloysius said:
Heck sent me a PM way back in September about how much he liked Curry and teammate Alphonso Smith. All I had to do was watch the Ole Miss game...and fall in love.I'm just playing McShay to Heck's Kiper.
I guess that makes ballpeen "the goof"
I admit it!
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Eisen on NFL Network giving Mayock "props for telling us Cutler was the best QB in the '06 draft". I don't recall, but apparently he's getting credit for nailing those QB's.
1 Houston Mario Williams - DE
2 New Orleans Reggie Bush - RB
3 Tennessee Vince Young - QB
4 New York D'Brickashaw Ferguson - OT
5 Green Bay A.J. Hawk - LB
6 San Francisco Vernon Davis - TE
7 Oakland Michael Huff
8 Buffalo Donte' Whitner
9 Detroit Ernie Sims - LB
10 Arizona Matt Leinart - QB
11 Denver Jay Cutler - QB
We'll see how he does this year.
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