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Mike Pettine with not so great clock management.

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  • I vote for firing Walter White.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I vote for firing Walter White.

    @bbedward said:

    I vote for firing Walter White.

    who wouldn't? Even Bryan Cranston is sick of Walter White..
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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I vote for firing Walter White.

    @bbedward said:

    I vote for firing Walter White.

    Okay average guy who probably likes Pettine

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    @bbedward said:

    I vote for firing Walter White.

    who wouldn't? Even Bryan Cranston is sick of Walter White..

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    who wouldn't? Even Bryan Cranston is sick of Walter White..

    You're 17 and semi Retarded aren't yoU?

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    who wouldn't? Even Bryan Cranston is sick of Walter White..

    You're 17 and semi Retarded aren't yoU?

    @walterwhite said:

    You're 17 and semi Retard aren't yoU?

    Terrible math by you considering my bday is in my profile.. Does that make you a full Retard?

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    @Mr_KevinJones: Lost in all that: How does Mike Pettine not call a timeout with QB Austin Davis out there melting? A legit 20 seconds were wasted

    I changed the thread title- most high school coaches know better clock management. The below is why Mike Pettine has bought his ticket out of town. But there are other reasons. Most namely his "Swiss Cheese" defense.

    Why is Josh a backup? Being at the game- Because (on one play) he tosses a "safe" pass to Barnidge- while Duke had slipped coverage, and had a near certain TD- with no RatBird defender within 20 yards of him.

    @walterwhite said:

    @Mr_KevinJones: Lost in all that: How does Mike Pettine not call a timeout with QB Austin Davis out there melting? A legit 20 seconds were wasted

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    You can't make this stuff up. We waste 30 seconds when we have 2 timeouts and then have to burn 1 when Davis slides in bounds. Pettine hasn't learned. May as well start over. I really want flip to stay as OC though. Need continuity on offense if we keep Manziel and Davis..

    @hx214 said:

    Actually more pissed about having 9 seconds left at the very edge of field goal range with one timeout left (meaning you can throw the ball across the middle) and they run a flipping draw play for -2 yards.

    Don't throw a 5-10 yard slant, bang the timeout and kick... Why do that when our run game is so great...

  • Yeah the Clowns should keep this idiot for another year for the sake of continuity. Maybe they can "improve" even more next year to 1-15 instead of 2-14

    :neutral_face:

  • 50 seconds left with 2 TO's and they only got 3 plays run

    That says it all

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • Farce

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Ah, here is what works pretty good for me. Pettine really stinks, we don't have one skill position player who could start on any NFL playoff team, the owners listens to dickheads like Jim Brown, Bernie Kosar, Doug Dicknose and who else in the media God only knows............

    So with all that going on.................. I don't watch this shit.

    You go into McDonalds, you pay 8 bucks and you get a sandwich deal. Sometimes it tastes great, but, ha, you know's it not that good. Nothing wrong with that. But you guys are amazing.............you go to a fast food place, you pay Ruth's Chris prices, and you don't even get a McDonald's caliber meal................... and THEN.................. you keep coming back again and again.

    Seriously, what the fuck were you expecting to happen tonight?

    Fans who lived to see Nelson, Ryan, Brown, Sipe and even Kosar, at least have a logical reason, albeit severely past waning, for being Browns fans. But you pole-smoking Gen-X and Millennial fucktards? WTF are you even doing supporting this shit pile? You have no heritage, no memories of good times, tough Steeler rivalries, HOF bound players and great player nicknames Really, if you are a 30 something, you haven't lived to see Jack Shit about the Browns.

    Being a fan of the Browns, if you are under 40, came to you simply because someone told you to do it. If you were in another city, never knew anything about the Browns, and were given this shit franchise called something other than the Browns, you wouldn't watch it at all.

    Again, why waste valuable life watching this meaningless shit?

    At 35 I remember the kosar led browns clearly and that was actually the best time to be a Browns fan since my mother was 8 years old.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • I would like to see what Mud says about this topic, as I tend to agree with a lot of his content and he brings up good points. When it comes to clock management, I'm not sure there is a way to defend Pettine this season, and certainly not after last night's debacle. I mean, we had around 50 seconds with two timeouts, right? Coaches can call timeouts in the NFL, so where were our coaches? If Pettine was lost in space, couldn't one of the coordinators do something? Were the players yelling anything? Hell, even the ANNOUNCERS were screaming for Pettine to call a timeout! I don't blame Austin for this, not one bit. Yes, he should've called a timeout, but as Gruden said, everything comes from the coaches or the "sidelines." Austin doesn't have autonomy or the authority to override the coach.

    The very scary part about all of this is it shows a growing trend for Pettine. I don't have specific examples to cite off the top of my head, but throughout the season I remember there were times I was SCREAMING at the television for Pettine to take a timeout or spike the ball, and he failed to do so. The one that comes to mind is when we were driving at the end of one game and Benji caught the ball semi-deep in our opponent's territory right as time expired. The drive before that, Pettine didn't stop the clock. He said he "didn't want to do the opponent a favor." Uh...how about doing YOUR TEAM A FAVOR.

    I was hoping that as he got more experience as a head coach, he would become more efficient with the clock, but that obviously hasn't happened.

  • They had two timeouts, ridiculous, like they were gonna run a ton of plays after that or something

  • What pissed me off most about Pett is how he had the offense on the field to go for 2 and the potential win, but reverts to his pussy self by kicking the PAT.

    WE ARE THE BROWNS, COACH!! WIN OR GO HOME! I was furious we did not go for 2 and the win

    "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee
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    What pissed me off most about Pett is how he had the offense on the field to go for 2 and the potential win, but reverts to his pussy self by kicking the PAT.

    WE ARE THE BROWNS, COACH!! WIN OR GO HOME! I was furious we did not go for 2 and the win

    @blowe said:

    I was furious we did not go for 2 and the win

    and you woulda been furious if we didnt make it too....

    Going for 2 would have been the dumbest call everrrrrr.......

  • hx214H hx214

    Actually more pissed about having 9 seconds left at the very edge of field goal range with one timeout left (meaning you can throw the ball across the middle) and they run a flipping draw play for -2 yards.

    Don't throw a 5-10 yard slant, bang the timeout and kick... Why do that when our run game is so great...

    @hx214 said:

    Actually more pissed about having 9 seconds left at the very edge of field goal range with one timeout left (meaning you can throw the ball across the middle) and they run a flipping draw play for -2 yards.

    Don't throw a 5-10 yard slant, bang the timeout and kick... Why do that when our run game is so great...

    Nailed it... Not trusting Davis in this critical moment to throw compounded any clock questions. Even a QB sneak would have been better than a hand off.

    As for the clock questions... initially not calling time after a short gain was correct, but once Davis floundered the follow-up play-call and we saw the mismatch with the D, the TO should have been taken. You settle Davis back down and go over the situation, likely avoiding "the slide" which thanks in part to a bad spot cost us a full five yards... maybe more.

    Bad ending to a heroic comeback effort.

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  • Speaking of insane calls.....how about Harbaugh going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 20......with a lead AND time on the clock...

    I know a lot of folks probably think that was "gutsy".....but the truth is that it was just dumb....and he was lucky they got it.....

    Now, just imagine if Pettine made that call......

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  • relax guys, we got the league right where we want em....we're in 1st place now right?

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Speaking of insane calls.....how about Harbaugh going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 20......with a lead AND time on the clock...

    I know a lot of folks probably think that was "gutsy".....but the truth is that it was just dumb....and he was lucky they got it.....

    Now, just imagine if Pettine made that call......

    @mudfly said:

    Speaking of insane calls.....how about Harbaugh going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 20......with a lead AND time on the clock...

    I know a lot of folks probably think that was "gutsy".....but the truth is that it was just dumb....and he was lucky they got it.....

    Now, just imagine if Pettine made that call......

    lols, he was obviously irritated that his team wsa winning. Now why would that be? lmao

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Speaking of insane calls.....how about Harbaugh going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 20......with a lead AND time on the clock...

    I know a lot of folks probably think that was "gutsy".....but the truth is that it was just dumb....and he was lucky they got it.....

    Now, just imagine if Pettine made that call......

    @mudfly said:

    Speaking of insane calls.....how about Harbaugh going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 20......with a lead AND time on the clock...

    I know a lot of folks probably think that was "gutsy".....but the truth is that it was just dumb....and he was lucky they got it.....

    Now, just imagine if Pettine made that call......

    You're totally right, and you're right about going for two as well. That made NO SENSE. However, cooler heads prevailed and coach made the correct decision. In fact, the game almost played out exactly like coach would've liked until he completely messed up the clock management. Mud, do you feel that Pettine has struggled with clock management throughout his first two years? I believe I read somewhere that Pettine blamed the clock management issue on "faulty radio transmitters", and he said he couldn't communicate with Austin Davis. The problem with that explanation is that coaches have the ability to call timeouts THEMSELVES, so why did it matter that he couldn't communicate with Davis via the headset?

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  • I'll admit I've been a Pettine supporter. I enjoyed his apparent no-nonsense attitude and have no problem w/him sitting JM for partying and lying about it. But goddamn it's getting harder and harder to defend this guy cause of his clock management. The fact that we even tried to score at the end of the first half shocked me. I feel like there were multiple games last year where we'd have the ball with over a minute to go and not try shit. I apologize if it was posted here and I missed it but was there any explanation as to why we wasted so much time on that final drive? Davis sliding in-bounds, while dumb as hell, didn't bother me nearly as much as the 30 or so seconds wasted right before that. I'd understand if we were closer to the endzone but it made no sense to me given where we were on the field.

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