Pryor is back Baby!
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Yes... I was fixated on bad trades...
Beastliness is not among my concerns.
"Proven, veteran talent..." maybe, but also proven to be in decline from whatever talent was once displayed. As for why Bowe is still here... can't say for sure, but has the look of a Farmer move meant to stick a finger in Pet's eye.
Still not buying the dog house argument at least not in general. Possibly has some validity when it comes to JM, but JM has done his damned best to earn the pine. Absolutely no sale here when it comes to Gilbert and Bowe.
I wouldn't be continuing to harp on it if I didn't get some validation from the article on OBR.
Here's a link to some of the content: http://www.fans247.com/showthread.php?63561-A-Cleveland-Browns-Confidant-Speaks-on-Front-Office-Coaching-Tensions
Kinda where I am, war... but still looking.
I wouldn't be continuing to harp on it if I didn't get some validation from the article on OBR.
Here's a link to some of the content: http://www.fans247.com/showthread.php?63561-A-Cleveland-Browns-Confidant-Speaks-on-Front-Office-Coaching-Tensions
And that's fine, TC. Just an honest disagreement of opinions... and I respect yours and give it more weight on more topics than most here. Whereas OBR means nothing to me.
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I'm not sure why anyone thinks the FO can either evaluate and/or develop talent.
They cut Charles Johnson and Dion Lewis and continue to start Malcom Johnson at FB..
So the Pryor saga is just more of the same inconsistent approach
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Henry has slow feet which is a must in the backfield. Yes, he's got tremendous endurance and he makes 3 yards out of 1 and 1 out of -2. That's a good quality in the NFL, but it's not "take me in the first round." EZE is better than him for the NFL.
Henry has slow feet which is a must in the backfield. Yes, he's got tremendous endurance and he makes 3 yards out of 1 and 1 out of -2. That's a good quality in the NFL, but it's not "take me in the first round." EZE is better than him for the NFL.
I don't disagree with where he goes in the draft (we have greater needs), but since we pick high in the second then we need to get him. If that means moving up a few spots into the 1st then that also would be a decent move. We need a player who can get the tough yards inside but also has the breakaway speed when he clears the LB's to score from 30-40 yds out. He reminds me of Eric Dickerson in that I think they share a long stride that accelerates the further the run goes.
PS-Elliott will be long gone by the time late 1st round comes up.
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Henry doesn't have breakaway speed though. He's not an elite NFL prospect, it's that simple. And I'm the biggest Alabama/Saban fan (from a distance) you'll find.
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Henry doesn't have breakaway speed though. He's not an elite NFL prospect, it's that simple. And I'm the biggest Alabama/Saban fan (from a distance) you'll find.
Henry doesn't have breakaway speed though. He's not an elite NFL prospect, it's that simple. And I'm the biggest Alabama/Saban fan (from a distance) you'll find.
We disagree on both counts. Take a look at some of his longer runs here and tell me this is not unlike Eric Dickerson strides that hide deceptive breakaway speed.
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Dude I'm mid-twenties. I don't know dickerson about Eric Dickerson other than he was one of the Pony Excess culprits. I've probably watched no team more outside of the Ags or Browns than Alabama. So I've seen most everything in the clip you posted. I'm just telling you what's obvious.
Despite their recent rushing dominance, Alabama has one of the highest numbers of negative rushing plays this year. That's on a subpar OL and Henry's slow feet in the backfield.
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Then let me educate you. Watch Dickerson's longer NFL runs here. The same deceptively fast long strides that eat up ground the longer the run becomes. See those slow feet? See the ground they actually cover as he pulls away? Looks just like Henry with all those "slow" SEC DB's doesn't it? Also 6'3" and 220+.
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Say is he 6'3" and over 220? I couldn't remember from the first half dozen times you said it. I have no interest in discussing this with you if you're just going to repeat the same things over and over. I told you the negative plays stat. Heck, look at his first half stats across the board this year (outside of our game of course).
He's not fast. He'll be well over 4.55 at the combine. Probably in the 4.65 range.
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Then let me educate you. Watch Dickerson's longer NFL runs here. The same deceptively fast long strides that eat up ground the longer the run becomes. See those slow feet? See the ground they actually cover as he pulls away? Looks just like Henry with all those "slow" SEC DB's doesn't it? Also 6'3" and 220+.
Then let me educate you. Watch Dickerson's longer NFL runs here. The same deceptively fast long strides that eat up ground the longer the run becomes. See those slow feet? See the ground they actually cover as he pulls away? Looks just like Henry with all those "slow" SEC DB's doesn't it? Also 6'3" and 220+.
I basically agree with this. Dickerson was a guy that people said "he isn't running very hard or fast" but all he did was run over, around and through people.....and he looked like he was going slow motion....but he went right by and outran supposedly faster DBs.
I do see some of this in Henry.
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Say is he 6'3" and over 220? I couldn't remember from the first half dozen times you said it. I have no interest in discussing this with you if you're just going to repeat the same things over and over. I told you the negative plays stat. Heck, look at his first half stats across the board this year (outside of our game of course).
He's not fast. He'll be well over 4.55 at the combine. Probably in the 4.65 range.
Say is he 6'3" and over 220? I couldn't remember from the first half dozen times you said it. I have no interest in discussing this with you if you're just going to repeat the same things over and over. I told you the negative plays stat. Heck, look at his first half stats across the board this year (outside of our game of course).
He's not fast. He'll be well over 4.55 at the combine. Probably in the 4.65 range.
Well, just looking at the highlight video it seemed to me that he outran a number of DBs that actually had the angle on him.
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I dont want to pick him(or any back in the first couple rounds)....but, I agree with AG, that he DOES look and run a lot like Dickerson.....
First time I saw him run with that upright style, Dickerson was the name that immediately flashed through my mind.....
Now.....will he be another Dickerson???.......longshot.......
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to be honest, I'm skeptical of anybody's highlight reel. You could go find trent richardson's and he would look like an unstoppable beast, a rolling ball of butcher knives if you will. It doesn't mean shit in terms of how they will translate to the pros.
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to be honest, I'm skeptical of anybody's highlight reel. You could go find trent richardson's and he would look like an unstoppable beast, a rolling ball of butcher knives if you will. It doesn't mean shit in terms of how they will translate to the pros.
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to be honest, I'm skeptical of anybody's highlight reel. You could go find trent richardson's and he would look like an unstoppable beast, a rolling ball of butcher knives if you will. It doesn't mean shit in terms of how they will translate to the pros.
You could go find trent richardson's and he would look like an unstoppable beast, a rolling ball of butcher knives if you will.
Right.....Richardson was promoted as the next Adrian Peterson....by everybody.....just read his draft profile again and it makes me ill.......
If Farmer picks yet another over inflated SEC star, I will kill something......
It may be a puppy......or a bottle of jack....but something is going down.....
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I'm not sure where the Dickerson comparison comes in...Dickerson was one of the fastest RB's of his time.
Henry is not, and it's not even close. He's a plodder with slow foot speed. He's a short yardage back similar to Marcel Reece. Not even close to Dickerson in the least.
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He ran one of the top 40 yard times on the whole Bama team this summer. Not sure why some of you cannot see him pulling away from DB's because highlights or not, that is speed. Oh well, just watch him blossom on some other NFL team. Send your alternatives in to our blind GM. I'm sure he'll take another Mayle or Bowe instead anyway.
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I'm not sure where the Dickerson comparison comes in...Dickerson was one of the fastest RB's of his time.
Henry is not, and it's not even close. He's a plodder with slow foot speed. He's a short yardage back similar to Marcel Reece. Not even close to Dickerson in the least.
I'm not sure where the Dickerson comparison comes in...Dickerson was one of the fastest RB's of his time.
Henry is not, and it's not even close. He's a plodder with slow foot speed. He's a short yardage back similar to Marcel Reece. Not even close to Dickerson in the least.
I only say it because they have exactly the same running style.....maybe different speeds, but Im not saying they are the exact same in every way....Im saying they look and run the same.....
Dickerson was a 4.3 - 4.4 runner......not sure what this guy at Bama runs, but he does look a bit slower....
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I'm not sure where the Dickerson comparison comes in...Dickerson was one of the fastest RB's of his time.
Henry is not, and it's not even close. He's a plodder with slow foot speed. He's a short yardage back similar to Marcel Reece. Not even close to Dickerson in the least.
I only say it because they have exactly the same running style.....maybe different speeds, but Im not saying they are the exact same in every way....Im saying they look and run the same.....
Dickerson was a 4.3 - 4.4 runner......not sure what this guy at Bama runs, but he does look a bit slower....
I only say it because they have exactly the same running style.....maybe different speeds, but Im not saying they are the exact same in every way....Im saying they look and run the same.....
Dickerson was a 4.3 - 4.4 runner......not sure what this guy at Bama runs, but he does look a bit slower....
He ran a 4.50 at a Bama hand-timed spring workout session, so I'd say he'll probably come it at like 4.58-4.63 with laser timing assuming he doesn't shed about 15 pounds between now and the combine.
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He ran one of the top 40 yard times on the whole Bama team this summer. Not sure why some of you cannot see him pulling away from DB's because highlights or not, that is speed. Oh well, just watch him blossom on some other NFL team. Send your alternatives in to our blind GM. I'm sure he'll take another Mayle or Bowe instead anyway.
He ran one of the top 40 yard times on the whole Bama team this summer. Not sure why some of you cannot see him pulling away from DB's because highlights or not, that is speed. Oh well, just watch him blossom on some other NFL team. Send your alternatives in to our blind GM. I'm sure he'll take another Mayle or Bowe instead anyway.
Well, the question is: where would the Browns take him. It appears clear that the Browns are going to get a very high pick......possibly top 3 if they continue to play so poorly....and have such continued bad luck.
Would they take Henry there? I think absolutely not.
If he were still there at the top of the second round? He would have to be heavily considered.
One service I rely on a lot: CBS sports....has him currently at the #32 best prospect.
If right..he goes down to early second...maybe snatch him. (but not in the top spot.)
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He ran one of the top 40 yard times on the whole Bama team this summer. Not sure why some of you cannot see him pulling away from DB's because highlights or not, that is speed. Oh well, just watch him blossom on some other NFL team. Send your alternatives in to our blind GM. I'm sure he'll take another Mayle or Bowe instead anyway.
He ran one of the top 40 yard times on the whole Bama team this summer. Not sure why some of you cannot see him pulling away from DB's because highlights or not, that is speed. Oh well, just watch him blossom on some other NFL team. Send your alternatives in to our blind GM. I'm sure he'll take another Mayle or Bowe instead anyway.
That time was a 4.5, that's not saying too much.
I ran the fastest speed in my grandmother's retirement community.
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