please stop with the HC rumor threads...
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I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
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I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
you aren't the only one, but given the circumstances i understand fellow fans calling for his head.
problem is he doesn't acquire the talent. sure, he needs to call out his coordinators and possibly cut them loose BUT my main concern is the lack of continuity. look at the good teams (not the flash-in-the-pan good teams). what do they all have? a FO office that has been there longer than 2 years. a HC that has been there longer than 2 years. is harbaugh in balt now going to fired? look at the gints. look at the pack, the pats and now the panthers. sure rivera could have been fired given his record from beginning to now but they stuck with him.
which haslam has to do sooner or later with some package cuz this 2 yrs and done shit ain't working and if you can't figure that out as a fan then your dense like a black hole.
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I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
you aren't the only one, but given the circumstances i understand fellow fans calling for his head.
problem is he doesn't acquire the talent. sure, he needs to call out his coordinators and possibly cut them loose BUT my main concern is the lack of continuity. look at the good teams (not the flash-in-the-pan good teams). what do they all have? a FO office that has been there longer than 2 years. a HC that has been there longer than 2 years. is harbaugh in balt now going to fired? look at the gints. look at the pack, the pats and now the panthers. sure rivera could have been fired given his record from beginning to now but they stuck with him.
which haslam has to do sooner or later with some package cuz this 2 yrs and done shit ain't working and if you can't figure that out as a fan then your dense like a black hole.
you aren't the only one, but given the circumstances i understand fellow fans calling for his head.
problem is he doesn't acquire the talent. sure, he needs to call out his coordinators and possibly cut them loose BUT my main concern is the lack of continuity. look at the good teams (not the flash-in-the-pan good teams). what do they all have? a FO office that has been there longer than 2 years. a HC that has been there longer than 2 years. is harbaugh in balt now going to fired? look at the gints. look at the pack, the pats and now the panthers. sure rivera could have been fired given his record from beginning to now but they stuck with him.
which haslam has to do sooner or later with some package cuz this 2 yrs and done shit ain't working and if you can't figure that out as a fan then your dense like a black hole.
sooo true! when the players outlast the coach you lose all control. pet don't play them on draft status, you gotta earn the time. i hope he stays
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It's almost worth betting just for a free case of beer. It's fantastic odds....
for me yes. just remember the shipping costs from cali
gruden leaving a cushy broadcasting gig? really? people think he is a god of coaching (where if you look at his #'s they really don't mean much considering what was given and what he tried to do on his own) where if he ever came back to coach a team like cleveland his legacy would turn into a pile of dog shit. don't think he'd take that chance to be outed as a big-mouthed know-it-all and given 2 years to prove himself.
yeah odds are on my side.
for me yes. just remember the shipping costs from cali
gruden leaving a cushy broadcasting gig? really? people think he is a god of coaching (where if you look at his #'s they really don't mean much considering what was given and what he tried to do on his own) where if he ever came back to coach a team like cleveland his legacy would turn into a pile of dog shit. don't think he'd take that chance to be outed as a big-mouthed know-it-all and given 2 years to prove himself.
yeah odds are on my side.
Oh...I thought it was a one sided bet... my bad. Never mind.
I agree on Gruden....the dude is the highest paid ESPN employee....and he hasn't lost in how many years and doesn't have to work all that hard, especially by comparison to an NFL head coach. I get the ego thing and a coach wants to coach...but after awhile I've got to believe that part goes away and a guy thinks...shit...i'm making a fucking bundle of money to work like 90 days a year....I could go back to coaching and work 250 days a year and have all that pressure on me for not a whole lot more money.
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Plus the embarrassment of being outcoached by his little brother, Jay...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
You're the only one on earth, not just in here
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I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
So what do you think have been the positive steps so far? Or do you just feel someone needs at least 3 years to play out his usefulness?
WSS
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I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
Count me in as well.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm probably the only one in here but I'll say it, I like Mike Pettine as the coach of the Cleveland Browns.
Count me in as well.
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Same question for all of you. Why?
WSS
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Same question for all of you. Why?
WSS
Same question for all of you. Why?
WSS
I have the same question that Steve just asked.
Mike
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Ok here's what I'm seeing/hoping...lol. The team base is being overhauled. Everybody bitches about high paid or high draft players not playing. If a lower ranked player is putting extra effort into practice and flat out trying harder...he plays. And this can break the so what, I'm getting paid attitude, which is the root of a losing team. And the worst thing to do is remove the boss for another. If you wanna play on my team, you better bust butt. Sounds good till the next comes in. Then as many say, you're going to have "growing pains"...= losses to me. The coaches are young and learning as well as being fairly bright guys. I have seen this year as ending with a lousy W/l record..like a 20 game preseason leading to a much better year next season...and by that I mean a pretty solid 500 team looking up. I've never seen a Pro bowl with a lot of rookies in it. Kids gotta learn.....and losing games does suck but at least they manage to lose in so many strange ways that proves shit happens. Lack of practice time per the cba is a killer too, we need practice so throw out the record and get these guys minds right this year.....
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Plus the embarrassment of being outcoached by his little brother, Jay...
Hmmm puts a nice twist on sibling rivalry , though.. I wonder if younger brother Jay gets pooched out in WAS , He becomes a viable canidate , here!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Anyone who likes Pettine as coach is a fucking fool.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Anyone who likes Pettine as coach is a fucking fool.
Anyone who likes Pettine as coach is a fucking fool.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahohohohohehehehehaha...good answer!
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Anyone who likes Pettine as coach is a fucking fool.
Anyone who likes Pettine as coach is a fucking fool.
c'mon diehard. with an avatar like that you sure you aren't a pot calling the kettle black?
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Anyone who likes Pettine as coach is a fucking fool.
c'mon diehard. with an avatar like that you sure you aren't a pot calling the kettle black?
c'mon diehard. with an avatar like that you sure you aren't a pot calling the kettle black?
What? The next President of the United States? Better then that old twat hitlery.
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What? The next President of the United States? Better then that old twat hitlery.
anybody is better than that......
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I see from the quotes the old DieHard has returned...
Hmmm puts a nice twist on sibling rivalry , though.. I wonder if younger brother Jay gets pooched out in WAS , He becomes a viable canidate , here!
Based upon their last few weeks, I don't think Jay is going anywhere. He stood his ground when it came to RG3 and it's paying off.
Same question for all of you. Why?
I have the same question that Steve just asked.
What was more universally loved around here about Petting when he took the job than his stand on playing time had to be earned? Earned regardless of how you got here... regardless of what day of the draft you were taken. Initially there were a lot of folks who doubted he'd actually follow through, but damned if he didn't... and apparently damned if he did.
So everyone loved at least the idea of that approach until someone they loved more than that stand did not get to play because of it. I doubt I need to rattle off a list of who those players were, but I could and JM would be name #1... maybe even manes #1 thru about #7... For some even Bowe has made their updated lists... Dwayne Fucking Bowe!
I still like his approach. I admire him sticking to it. I have never seen objective evidence that the collective judgement of he and his staff has been wrong.
His Defense...
I have been harping for years here about our LB Corps' inadequacy. As a whole it's gotten worse. I don't think that is the "scheme's fault". As Mud has pointed out repeatedly, we have only one Collegiate OLB on our roster, a former 4-3 OLB, and he's playing ILB... in what is more and more a 3-4. And I think that is his best position. Overall we utilize our OLBs as well as they can be used. They are simply not good enough.
Add that when we had a secondary that included a productive CB named Joe Haden, I thought the discussion of a 3-4 vs a 4-3 was a worthwhile one. Now? Does it matter?
I can go on, but won't. Because if the above does not begin to sway any questioners, nothing I might add about his demeanor or communication skills or humanity will.
Pet ain't perfect, but he is the best we've seen a while. I am in no hurry to see him gone especially given the list of names floated so far.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I see from the quotes the old DieHard has returned...
Hmmm puts a nice twist on sibling rivalry , though.. I wonder if younger brother Jay gets pooched out in WAS , He becomes a viable canidate , here!
Based upon their last few weeks, I don't think Jay is going anywhere. He stood his ground when it came to RG3 and it's paying off.
Same question for all of you. Why?
I have the same question that Steve just asked.
What was more universally loved around here about Petting when he took the job than his stand on playing time had to be earned? Earned regardless of how you got here... regardless of what day of the draft you were taken. Initially there were a lot of folks who doubted he'd actually follow through, but damned if he didn't... and apparently damned if he did.
So everyone loved at least the idea of that approach until someone they loved more than that stand did not get to play because of it. I doubt I need to rattle off a list of who those players were, but I could and JM would be name #1... maybe even manes #1 thru about #7... For some even Bowe has made their updated lists... Dwayne Fucking Bowe!
I still like his approach. I admire him sticking to it. I have never seen objective evidence that the collective judgement of he and his staff has been wrong.
His Defense...
I have been harping for years here about our LB Corps' inadequacy. As a whole it's gotten worse. I don't think that is the "scheme's fault". As Mud has pointed out repeatedly, we have only one Collegiate OLB on our roster, a former 4-3 OLB, and he's playing ILB... in what is more and more a 3-4. And I think that is his best position. Overall we utilize our OLBs as well as they can be used. They are simply not good enough.
Add that when we had a secondary that included a productive CB named Joe Haden, I thought the discussion of a 3-4 vs a 4-3 was a worthwhile one. Now? Does it matter?
I can go on, but won't. Because if the above does not begin to sway any questioners, nothing I might add about his demeanor or communication skills or humanity will.
Pet ain't perfect, but he is the best we've seen a while. I am in no hurry to see him gone especially given the list of names floated so far.
I see from the quotes the old DieHard has returned...Based upon their last few weeks, I don't think Jay is going anywhere. He stood his ground when it came to RG3 and it's paying off.What was more universally loved around here about Petting when he took the job than his stand on playing time had to be earned? Earned regardless of how you got here... regardless of what day of the draft you were taken. Initially there were a lot of folks who doubted he'd actually follow through, but damned if he didn't... and apparently damned if he did.So everyone loved at least the idea of that approach until someone they loved more than that stand did not get to play because of it. I doubt I need to rattle off a list of who those players were, but I could and JM would be name #1... maybe even manes #1 thru about #7... For some even Bowe has made their updated lists... Dwayne Fucking Bowe!I still like his approach. I admire him sticking to it. I have never seen objective evidence that the collective judgement of he and his staff has been wrong.His Defense...I have been harping for years here about our LB Corps' inadequacy. As a whole it's gotten worse. I don't think that is the "scheme's fault". As Mud has pointed out repeatedly, we have only one Collegiate OLB on our roster, a former 4-3 OLB, and he's playing ILB... in what is more and more a 3-4. And I think that is his best position. Overall we utilize our OLBs as well as they can be used. They are simply not good enough.Add that when we had a secondary that included a productive CB named Joe Haden, I thought the discussion of a 3-4 vs a 4-3 was a worthwhile one. Now? Does it matter?I can go on, but won't. Because if the above does not begin to sway any questioners, nothing I might add about his demeanor or communication skills or humanity will.Pet ain't perfect, but he is the best we've seen a while. I am in no hurry to see him gone especially given the list of names floated so far.
Take that one further and check the list of HCs that have been tenured over 5 years with the same team. Not one started out as an established, or successful nfl coach. Seems to me that home cooking may take awhile but ultimately it's worth the wait.
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