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  • and another consideration is that a big guy like Henry may have a slower 40 time then some of the WRs and CBs, but thats an off the line measurement.....So, without that quick twitch body, It may take them a tad longer to get going.....but, with that long stride and some momentum gained running downfield, I bet they get going plenty fast....(and faster than that 40 time might suggest)

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    and another consideration is that a big guy like Henry may have a slower 40 time then some of the WRs and CBs, but thats an off the line measurement.....So, without that quick twitch body, It may take them a tad longer to get going.....but, with that long stride and some momentum gained running downfield, I bet they get going plenty fast....(and faster than that 40 time might suggest)

    @mudfly said:

    and another consideration is that a big guy like Henry may have a slower 40 time then some of the WRs and CBs, but thats an off the line measurement.....So, without that quick twitch body, It may take them a tad longer to get going.....but, with that long stride and some momentum gained running downfield, I bet they get going plenty fast....(and faster than that 40 time might suggest)

    Exactly what you see when he breaks through the LB's.

    It would be interesting to put the new technology on him that shows how fast in MPH you are going at top speed. They clocked Miles Garrett tracking down a running back where he caught him at the corner going 21 MPH, damn fast for a 6'5" 270 lb DE.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    and another consideration is that a big guy like Henry may have a slower 40 time then some of the WRs and CBs, but thats an off the line measurement.....So, without that quick twitch body, It may take them a tad longer to get going.....but, with that long stride and some momentum gained running downfield, I bet they get going plenty fast....(and faster than that 40 time might suggest)

    @mudfly said:

    and another consideration is that a big guy like Henry may have a slower 40 time then some of the WRs and CBs, but thats an off the line measurement.....So, without that quick twitch body, It may take them a tad longer to get going.....but, with that long stride and some momentum gained running downfield, I bet they get going plenty fast....(and faster than that 40 time might suggest)

    The 10 and 20 yard splits say a lot about that. Personally I really like the insight a 3-cone gives.

    And just as I typed the above I recalled the possibility being discussed after the last Combine of replacing the 40 with some other measure.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @wargograw said:

    Henry doesn't have breakaway speed though. He's not an elite NFL prospect, it's that simple. And I'm the biggest Alabama/Saban fan (from a distance) you'll find.

    We disagree on both counts. Take a look at some of his longer runs here and tell me this is not unlike Eric Dickerson strides that hide deceptive breakaway speed.

    @texasag1969 said:

    We disagree on both counts. Take a look at some of his longer runs here and tell me this is not unlike Eric Dickerson strides that hide deceptive breakaway speed.

    Yeah Ag, I looked at those highlights- and to be charitable to you- Earl Campbell. Nah. Try Ron Dayne on the downside, or Bus Bettis on the upside. Dickerson- he ain't, doesn't have the moves. BTW, I will never forget Dickerson flat-out quitting against the Browns (walked off the field) in a MNF game against the Browns.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm not sure where the Dickerson comparison comes in...Dickerson was one of the fastest RB's of his time.

    Henry is not, and it's not even close. He's a plodder with slow foot speed. He's a short yardage back similar to Marcel Reece. Not even close to Dickerson in the least.

    I'm with TC. We've seen far too many 'Bama RBs get to the pros and never amount to a hill of beans. I still have a bad Trent Richardson taste in my mouth.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @westside-steve said:

    There has to be a reason that no other team in the league wanted him. Hence I'm curious as to why some of you guys are so thrilled? Just the Homer aspect?

    WSS

    You make a good point.......but "we" want him because he is tall and fast.......and there is a dearth of that among the Browns WR corps.

    And, sure....homerism as well.

    Question for all y'all: What former QBs have actually made the transition to WR? Anyone? I can think of the two Kent staters: Cribbs and Edelman.

    Who else?

    @the-gipper said:

    What former QBs have actually made the transition to WR? Anyone? I can think of the two Kent staters: Cribbs and Edelman.

    Who else?

    Gip, I think you forgot about another Kent Stater......Josh Cribbs.
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  • Early morning film has me leaning more towards Tim and Tour's assessment of Henry.

    As for Terrelle - Pettine said he likely would not be active Sunday. Sure, I'll give him a week of practice to get caught up.

    However, if Pryor is 'NOT' active next Sunday and Bowe is... that might make me start question Coaches decision making process.

    Especially with Hawk and Gabe potentially out.

    edit: Just had a brilliant idea. Allow me to collect my thoughts and I'll be back.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Early morning film has me leaning more towards Tim and Tour's assessment of Henry.

    As for Terrelle - Pettine said he likely would not be active Sunday. Sure, I'll give him a week of practice to get caught up.

    However, if Pryor is 'NOT' active next Sunday and Bowe is... that might make me start question Coaches decision making process.

    Especially with Hawk and Gabe potentially out.

    edit: Just had a brilliant idea. Allow me to collect my thoughts and I'll be back.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Early morning film has me leaning more towards Tim and Tour's assessment of Henry.

    edit: Just had a brilliant idea. Allow me to collect my thoughts and I'll be back.

    1. Mine was more of a fear than an assessment.

    2. This had better be good... you put a lot of pressure on yourself.

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  • Just fired up the old Madden machine and I'll say this - a Browns offense with Cardale Jones, Josh Gordon, Laquon Treadwell, Terrelle Pryor, Braxton Miller, Duke Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott is a crazy fun video game team to play with.

    I also drafted Joey Bosa, in case you were wondering if I liked Ohio State.

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  • So did any of you watch him in the SEC championship game? See what a power back he can be for us and also can outblock any of our TE's. Florida has one off the best running D's anywhere and yet he made almost 200 yds and broke Hershel Walker's single season SEC rushing record. If they had used him much against that lower level college a few weeks back he'd have broken 2000 yds for the season.

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  • Yup... watched some. Saw a couple minor adjustments to holes moved a yard one way or the other. Even saw one play bounced completely to the outside. Also saw a couple of run stuffs that had him burrowing to make a yard. But mostly saw well defined holes where they were drawn up with clear paths to the 3rd level.

    How any ZBS plays did Bama run? How many times did Henry reverse field or even cutback during a run?

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  • T TexasAg1969

    So did any of you watch him in the SEC championship game? See what a power back he can be for us and also can outblock any of our TE's. Florida has one off the best running D's anywhere and yet he made almost 200 yds and broke Hershel Walker's single season SEC rushing record. If they had used him much against that lower level college a few weeks back he'd have broken 2000 yds for the season.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So did any of you watch him in the SEC championship game? See what a power back he can be for us and also can outblock any of our TE's. Florida has one off the best running D's anywhere and yet he made almost 200 yds and broke Hershel Walker's single season SEC rushing record. If they had used him much against that lower level college a few weeks back he'd have broken 2000 yds for the season.

    He looked wholly ordinary.

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  • Ya, lets use the number 3 pick that we may have to get the Bama RB....sorry, I don't have pink font

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @texasag1969 said:

    So did any of you watch him in the SEC championship game? See what a power back he can be for us and also can outblock any of our TE's. Florida has one off the best running D's anywhere and yet he made almost 200 yds and broke Hershel Walker's single season SEC rushing record. If they had used him much against that lower level college a few weeks back he'd have broken 2000 yds for the season.

    He looked wholly ordinary.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    He looked wholly ordinary.

    My thoughts exactly. He looks like TR 2.0 and never catches anything out of the backfield..

  • Well I guess you guys just don't really want a power back who makes yards after the hit. You want another dancer I guess. But if we want to be a run first O as Pettine claims, then go ahead and dance away.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    Well I guess you guys just don't really want a power back who makes yards after the hit. You want another dancer I guess. But if we want to be a run first O as Pettine claims, then go ahead and dance away.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well I guess you guys just don't really want a power back who makes yards after the hit. You want another dancer I guess. But if we want to be a run first O as Pettine claims, then go ahead and dance away.

    I want a LB with nasty attitude. And we are developing a pretty good rb already. The team makes Henry look good, to draft him, I would much rather have it the other way around

  • Took him 40+ carries to reach the number. As I said, endurance is his strength, but it's only one part of the evaluation. In the first half, his YPC was 3.something. In college, where YPC isn't "good" until it's well over 5, 3.something is highly average. It's extraordinary how average Bama's running game is until they get to the late part of the contest. Still, no one's been able to beat it at that time, at least not in the back half of the season.

    Tia, what's a man gotta do to get some credit around here?

  • T TexasAg1969

    Well I guess you guys just don't really want a power back who makes yards after the hit. You want another dancer I guess. But if we want to be a run first O as Pettine claims, then go ahead and dance away.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well I guess you guys just don't really want a power back who makes yards after the hit. You want another dancer I guess. But if we want to be a run first O as Pettine claims, then go ahead and dance away.

    I'd take a talented power back, just haven't seen one yet.

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  • Not Zeke?

  • W wargograw

    Not Zeke?

    @wargograw said:

    Not Zeke?

    I just meant on Alabama over the last 8 or so years now.

    I'd take Zeke.

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @wargograw said:

    Not Zeke?

    I just meant on Alabama over the last 8 or so years now.

    I'd take Zeke.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I just meant on Alabama over the last 8 or so years now.

    I'd take Zeke.

    That has been my point all along. Zeke will not be there unless he is taken as our first pick. I like our Johnson too but he does not have the endurance to take NFL pounding, nor can he get the tough yards inside required of a team that declares it wants to pound the ball the old fashioned way. If he is there for our second pick and we take a pass then shame on us once again. This guy makes those yards despite everyone in the house knowing he is 80% of Bama's O. His power sets up everything. Pettine would give anything to win the way Bama wins, tough D and a controlling, in your face inside running game that sets up PA for the QB. Like I said, persist with the dancers and nothing changes in Cleveland. Let him go set up someone else's offense. I shall be vindicated. 😉😆

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