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  • @hoorta said:

    Most of the fans have already checked out. PG even for me, the losses don't hurt anymore- sad you go into a game EXPECTING to lose.

    Agreed but lucky me. I get to watch Hoyer fuck up all over again here in Houston. He was his usual crap self today against the Bills. I hated him when I had NFL ticket and now I'm stuck with him here in Houston. I just don't get it!

    @edwardejw said:

    Agreed but lucky me. I get to watch Hoyer fuck up all over again here in Houston. He was his usual crap self today against the Bills. I hated him when I had NFL ticket and now I'm stuck with him here in Houston. I just don't get it!

    he's fucking 1,000,000 times better than anything we have...pfffffft...

  • When is the press conference? I'd like to watch if anyone has a link.

  • @browns149 said:

    If the NFL closed the doors on most teams there might be 10 starters.

    No team has an all star team. They all have about 5-12 players that could start for another team.

    We just have to worst coaching in the league, BY FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We have a LT, CB, S, C, RT, and G that could start for other teams.

    I agree we are a Urban Meyer away from the Super Bowl, yes!

    @baconhound said:

    I agree we are a Urban Meyer away from the Super Bowl, yes!

    Maybe, but not him.

    OSU will pay him more than any NFL team would. You know that he will contact Saban before he making a move to the NFL and I guarantee that Nick would tell him don't do it. Miles would say so too! All these high profile coaches, especially if they were in the same conference, talk to each other.

  • @edwardejw said:

    Agreed but lucky me. I get to watch Hoyer fuck up all over again here in Houston. He was his usual crap self today against the Bills. I hated him when I had NFL ticket and now I'm stuck with him here in Houston. I just don't get it!

    he's fucking 1,000,000 times better than anything we have...pfffffft...

    @browns52 said:

    he's fucking 1,000,000 times better than anything we have...pfffffft...

    Not today. His passes were way off target. He simply sucked!

    I still say give Johnny a go and see what he can do. Oh wait we're in the Elliot sweepstakes aren't we?

  • We need to bring 85 year old Jimmy Breslin out of retirement. Wrote that famous book about the '62 Mets "Can't Anybody Here Play This Game?"

    We are football's version of the "Lovable Losers" who went 40-120 in 1962.

  • Players especially on the defense were giving half-assed effort. Anyone else notice Tramon Williams on AJ Greene's TD pass look like he gave up on the play as soon as he was beat?

  • Cardale Jones.

    At least he's fun to watch.

  • @baconhound said:

    I agree we are a Urban Meyer away from the Super Bowl, yes!

    Maybe, but not him.

    OSU will pay him more than any NFL team would. You know that he will contact Saban before he making a move to the NFL and I guarantee that Nick would tell him don't do it. Miles would say so too! All these high profile coaches, especially if they were in the same conference, talk to each other.

    @edwardejw said:

    Maybe, but not him.

    OSU will pay him more than any NFL team would. You know that he will contact Saban before he making a move to the NFL and I guarantee that Nick would tell him don't do it. Miles would say so too! All these high profile coaches, especially if they were in the same conference, talk to each other.

    Urban Suburban ain't coming- said as much today. Smart man. I don't want a guy (Saban) who bailed as soon as the going got tough.

    Jimmy- do the fans a favor- fire Mike- today. Obvious the team has quit on him. He's as toasted as the Browns cornerbacks were today.

  • Players especially on the defense were giving half-assed effort. Anyone else notice Tramon Williams on AJ Greene's TD pass look like he gave up on the play as soon as he was beat?

    @osiris said:

    Players especially on the defense were giving half-assed effort. Anyone else notice Tramon Williams on AJ Greene's TD pass look like he gave up on the play as soon as he was beat?

    The safety screwed the pooch on that one, TWilliams was supposed to have help over the top.

  • Players especially on the defense were giving half-assed effort. Anyone else notice Tramon Williams on AJ Greene's TD pass look like he gave up on the play as soon as he was beat?

    @osiris said:

    Players especially on the defense were giving half-assed effort. Anyone else notice Tramon Williams on AJ Greene's TD pass look like he gave up on the play as soon as he was beat?

    But Pettine said he was absolutely satisfied with effort and the players gave it all?

  • Number one offseason fix has to be stop the run / rush the passer.

    Look . . . 8 teams have scored 30+ points on us.

    We have held one team to fewer than 24 points all season - Which happens to be Tennessee who just made us the undisputed worst team in the league with their win today.

    You roll with Johnny next year and see if he is able to continue with the progress he's made so far this year. Hopefully smokey comes back sober, in shape and ready to play and re-sign Benjamin. With those two and Barnidge you could have a reasonably serviceable group of targets. Running back is the only offensive player I would target in the offseason. Possibly another OL if there's a steal in the later rounds, and Mack escapes.

    Drafting another rookie QB at this point is just dumb. All that will get us is another broken QB that got put into a bad situation out of the gate. Let's face it, this isn't a team that's just a QB away . . . It's an entire defense away.

    I would fire Pettine and hire a coach to go back to the 4-3 and draft Bosa with the #1. I would draft a RB in rd 2-3. All other picks would be best defensive player available.

    I would put Dansby ILB, I would try Mingo as a strong side, and put kirksey weak side If we had to roll with them as linebackers year one. Kruger could put his weight back on and play end opposite Bosa, which I think would greatly help his pass rush numbers.

    I really don't think we're as far away as it looks. I just think this staff has no fucking idea what they're doing

  • Bosa said he doesn't want to play in Cleveland.....

    fuck him.

  • At least the earth's molten core matches our uniforms.

  • Bosa said he doesn't want to play in Cleveland.....

    fuck him.

    @stillmotion said:

    Bosa said he doesn't want to play in Cleveland.....

    fuck him.

    Haven't heard that yet . . . Fucks up my entire plan LOL . . . So yes, fuck him.

  • That's one thing but what made me think he wouldn't want to be here was that I heard from various people that he said he'd rather play another year at OSU than get drafted by the Browns. I hope that's all just bullshit, and it could be, but this came up too....

    http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2014/06/36668/joey-bosa-on-cleveland-little-run-down-dirty-hole-of-a-city

    If he wants to be here great, but I don't want someone who doesn't want to be here, here, no matter how good he is.

  • Why would ANY draft pick want to play here?

    we are the death of draft picks

  • treadwell, connor cook, elliott....

    lets get some playmakers.

  • I thought it was impossible to pass Shurmer in incompetence but this staff has lapped the field in stupidity

    @browns149 said:

    I thought it was impossible to pass Shurmer in incompetence but this staff has lapped the field in stupidity

    yeah, and i remember mr joe thomas saying before shitmurs 3rd yr...'I THINK WE GOT THIS THING TURNED AROUND FINALLY"....WONDER WHAT HE REALLY REALLY THINKS NOW....BECAUSE THIS IS WORSE...

  • Joe Thomas thinks, "I hope Jimmy's check don't bounce"

  • Cardale Jones.

    At least he's fun to watch.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Cardale Jones.

    At least he's fun to watch.

    I'll still take cardale jones on the browns. Listen to everyone knock johnny. Blah blah blah he's short can't take a hit. Noodle arm yadda yadda yadda. Cardale is the exact opposite. I'd take him.

    And unlike browns fans and johnny haters I'd give him a couple of years OF STARTING to develop. Not five starts and get the fuck out of here.