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  • So ... how long until we have decided Johnny has "met the conditions"?

    I was expecting a formal announcement by now.

    Z

  • Z Zombo

    So ... how long until we have decided Johnny has "met the conditions"?

    I was expecting a formal announcement by now.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    So ... how long until we have decided Johnny has "met the conditions"?

    I was expecting a formal announcement by now.

    Z

    This is kind of the thing that is driving me insane lately. So it's Tuesday already, and we don't know who the starting QB is? Shouldn't we know that to get a game plan ready? I'm kidding...kind of...because obviously Pettine knows who the QB will be, but it just kind of speaks to the state of our team.

    And just what exactly is there to discuss? Johnny screwed up, yes we know. Many analysts believed a one game suspension was sufficient for his missteps, but now it's been two games and still no word? Are you REALLY going to start Austin Davis? Don't you need as much game play from Manziel in order to evaluate him? Don't you need OTHER teams to see what he can do in order to try and get at least a little trade value? The "who plays and who doesn't" stuff is getting old. Justin Gilbert is a healthy scratch. Dwayne Bowe is sitting on his ass making huge money, and Pettine doesn't give ANYONE an explanation. We keep Terrell Pryor past the last cut, and then we cut him later. But wait, we bring him back. I mean...just what the heck?

    Just say you're playing Manziel, end of story. Stop trying to be cute, stop trying to get an advantage by not telling the 49's who the starter is, and at least pretend to have a clue.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    Zombo said:

    So ... how long until we have decided Johnny has "met the conditions"?

    I was expecting a formal announcement by now.

    Z

    This is kind of the thing that is driving me insane lately. So it's Tuesday already, and we don't know who the starting QB is? Shouldn't we know that to get a game plan ready? I'm kidding...kind of...because obviously Pettine knows who the QB will be, but it just kind of speaks to the state of our team.

    And just what exactly is there to discuss? Johnny screwed up, yes we know. Many analysts believed a one game suspension was sufficient for his missteps, but now it's been two games and still no word? Are you REALLY going to start Austin Davis? Don't you need as much game play from Manziel in order to evaluate him? Don't you need OTHER teams to see what he can do in order to try and get at least a little trade value? The "who plays and who doesn't" stuff is getting old. Justin Gilbert is a healthy scratch. Dwayne Bowe is sitting on his ass making huge money, and Pettine doesn't give ANYONE an explanation. We keep Terrell Pryor past the last cut, and then we cut him later. But wait, we bring him back. I mean...just what the heck?

    Just say you're playing Manziel, end of story. Stop trying to be cute, stop trying to get an advantage by not telling the 49's who the starter is, and at least pretend to have a clue.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This is kind of the thing that is driving me insane lately. So it's Tuesday already, and we don't know who the starting QB is? Shouldn't we know that to get a game plan ready? I'm kidding...kind of...because obviously Pettine knows who the QB will be, but it just kind of speaks to the state of our team.

    And just what exactly is there to discuss? Johnny screwed up, yes we know. Many analysts believed a one game suspension was sufficient for his missteps, but now it's been two games and still no word? Are you REALLY going to start Austin Davis? Don't you need as much game play from Manziel in order to evaluate him? Don't you need OTHER teams to see what he can do in order to try and get at least a little trade value? The "who plays and who doesn't" stuff is getting old. Justin Gilbert is a healthy scratch. Dwayne Bowe is sitting on his ass making huge money, and Pettine doesn't give ANYONE an explanation. We keep Terrell Pryor past the last cut, and then we cut him later. But wait, we bring him back. I mean...just what the heck?

    Just say you're playing Manziel, end of story. Stop trying to be cute, stop trying to get an advantage by not telling the 49's who the starter is, and at least pretend to have a clue.

    I can tell you that "Zombo's Coon Dawgs" have already named him the starter for our "Play-in" game this week. Both of my teams actually have "win and you're in, lose and you're out" play-in games this weekend, so that makes a December NFL weekend actually interesting for me. Rare occurrence.

    Zombo

  • And there it is ...

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Johnny-Manziel-named-Browns-starting-QB/5a054608-84ae-43ad-a0f4-e91e89ab2cf0

    Johnny Manziel named Browns starting QB

  • I was expecting a link to a "Coon Dawgs" article...

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  • "The goal for every game is to go out and win," Pettine said, "and Johnny needs to show that he can put us in position to do so during these last four weeks of the season."

    What the hell does that mean?

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Pettine is burnt toast. He will be shit canned after game 16.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • T TexasAg1969

    LOL

    @texasag1969 said:

    LOL

    Ag, my Vet had a dog that liked beer so much he would drink till he about passed out (saw it myself). For a dog that isn't much, one beer will do it. .

  • BrownsfaninPaB BrownsfaninPa

    Well the team is going with all they have to use, putting Johnny Manzel in this weeks up coming game against the 49ers. At this point, it will only give him playing time, if the team wins a game , ok, but he is still the same troubled individual.

    @brownsfaninpa said:

    Well the team is going with all they have to use, putting Johnny Manzel in this weeks up coming game against the 49ers. At this point, it will only give him playing time, if the team wins a game , ok, but he is still the same troubled individual.

    they ain't winnning another game this season...niners game might be the closest game to a win, but now the niners are showing a little spunk in their game. The clowns will get the ever living shit beat out of them the remaining 3 games after the niners...

  • T TexasAg1969

    "The goal for every game is to go out and win," Pettine said, "and Johnny needs to show that he can put us in position to do so during these last four weeks of the season."

    What the hell does that mean?

    @texasag1969 said:

    "The goal for every game is to go out and win," Pettine said, "and Johnny needs to show that he can put us in position to do so during these last four weeks of the season."

    What the hell does that mean?

    Well... according to my Pettine decoder ring...

    JM must play well within the system, making reads until it's time to go JFF...

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    T 1 Reply

  • Is that the last nail in Pettines coffin?

    Theres no question he has been holding him back...musical qbs, putting him in time out..

    I think he would still be playing Davis if someone didnt push the issue.

    I think the lack of steady Qb play once again has hurt any type of cohesion in the team.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
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  • I hope we see fireworks outa him! My feeling is that he's on IR before the end of the season tho

  • The QB play has not been the issue on this team all year no matter who plays the position. I don't think Manziel suddenly lighting up the scoreboard is going to be the nail in the coffin. Keep in mind...he's started 2 games recently and we put up 10 and 9 points in those two starts. It's not like he was putting up points like a pinball machine before he fucked up again and got himself benched.

  • I still think Pettine wants nothing to do with him, while the FO says you will, and like it.

    flyingfooldougF Mark OM cdl15C B 4 Replies

  • I don't know about you guys, but I believe Pettine played Austin last week to see if Johnny would fuck up and do something stupid on his birthday.. Which is why the announcement was today instead of yesterday. Pettine was gathering info from the weekend. Looks like Johnny passed the test..

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    I still think Pettine wants nothing to do with him, while the FO says you will, and like it.

    @kvoethe said:

    I still think Pettine wants nothing to do with him, while the FO says you will, and like it.

    I've heard some that it is Pettines job to field his best team. .. I don't see it as a personality conflict...more like coach sees lack of talent. Now it's just a matter of getting him a decent gameplan and most likely show the world why he hasn't played

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  • Manziel playing well can only help him. What he really needs though, is a couple wins and some sort of significant late turnaround on defense.

    Z

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    I still think Pettine wants nothing to do with him, while the FO says you will, and like it.

    @kvoethe said:

    I still think Pettine wants nothing to do with him, while the FO says you will, and like it.

    That's possible... If thats the case and Pettine is still here next year, we need to root for the Cowboys to keep losing without Romo.

  • Dallas is no place JM will last & train wreck in life is pending. Listened to Pacman Jones radio interview the other day & Pacman was only saved by going to Bengals & getting out of Dallas due to Dallas nite life is allowed by Jerry Jones & his players. Wish what you will..

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    @kvoethe said:

    I still think Pettine wants nothing to do with him, while the FO says you will, and like it.

    I've heard some that it is Pettines job to field his best team. .. I don't see it as a personality conflict...more like coach sees lack of talent. Now it's just a matter of getting him a decent gameplan and most likely show the world why he hasn't played

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I've heard some that it is Pettines job to field his best team. .. I don't see it as a personality conflict...more like coach sees lack of talent. Now it's just a matter of getting him a decent gameplan and most likely show the world why he hasn't played

    I don't think "lack of talent" is something Pettine ever saw in Johnny.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
    flyingfooldougF 1 Reply
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