Controversy at QB ? R. Griffin possible ?
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One Post From the Truth said:
No to Griffin but it is a possibility with Farmer making the decision. I can see Kaepernick in the browns uni.
What I see wrong with the Browns....
The team has no identity. Even with the players Pett had in place when he arrived he failed to at least try to maintain a game plan on both sides of the ball.
The Browns have an identity: as persistent losers.
Could a Kaepernick change that? Not sure....but not with this defensive coaching staff.
The Browns have an identity: as persistent losers.
Could a Kaepernick change that? Not sure....but not with this defensive coaching staff.
a Kaepernick? Colin Kaepernick inherited a team of persistent winners, and they became persistent losers. Not purely because of him, but if he were capable of bringing a bad team up to contention, he would have done it in SF. I have zero faith in his ability to do it here.
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We have the best QB situation we've had in years.
All 3 guys are possibly good enough to win games - we have other problems.
if veteran QB such as R. Griffin becomes available, could he fit with a Browns team with a fresh new start for him as well?
We have the best QB situation we've had in years.
All 3 guys are possibly good enough to win games - we have other problems.
I would add Shaw back into that equation now that we know for sure that no matter who is QB, they will struggle in the red zone and get eaten alive at least 4-8 plays per game because of protection breakdowns (notice I am not laying this all on the OL alone). He played relatively well in comparison to the others.
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The Browns have an identity: as persistent losers.
Could a Kaepernick change that? Not sure....but not with this defensive coaching staff.
a Kaepernick? Colin Kaepernick inherited a team of persistent winners, and they became persistent losers. Not purely because of him, but if he were capable of bringing a bad team up to contention, he would have done it in SF. I have zero faith in his ability to do it here.
a Kaepernick? Colin Kaepernick inherited a team of persistent winners, and they became persistent losers. Not purely because of him, but if he were capable of bringing a bad team up to contention, he would have done it in SF. I have zero faith in his ability to do it here.
To be fair, the defense in SF fell apart......his coach fell apart....and I am not sure what happened with the offensive system there, but he did lose confidence.
Again....another guy for whom a change of scenery could do a lot of good.
(I mean......based on what we have here now......I would take him over any of our current QBs.)
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It wasn't just confidence that Kaepernick lost.
Kaepernick is not a starting QB at the NFL level.. That's not a personal attack, it's an analysis of the weakness he's always had.
He cannot throw the ball - period.
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a Kaepernick? Colin Kaepernick inherited a team of persistent winners, and they became persistent losers. Not purely because of him, but if he were capable of bringing a bad team up to contention, he would have done it in SF. I have zero faith in his ability to do it here.
To be fair, the defense in SF fell apart......his coach fell apart....and I am not sure what happened with the offensive system there, but he did lose confidence.
Again....another guy for whom a change of scenery could do a lot of good.
(I mean......based on what we have here now......I would take him over any of our current QBs.)
To be fair, the defense in SF fell apart......his coach fell apart....and I am not sure what happened with the offensive system there, but he did lose confidence.
Again....another guy for whom a change of scenery could do a lot of good.
(I mean......based on what we have here now......I would take him over any of our current QBs.)
I would not take him over any of our QBs...
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a Kaepernick? Colin Kaepernick inherited a team of persistent winners, and they became persistent losers. Not purely because of him, but if he were capable of bringing a bad team up to contention, he would have done it in SF. I have zero faith in his ability to do it here.
To be fair, the defense in SF fell apart......his coach fell apart....and I am not sure what happened with the offensive system there, but he did lose confidence.
Again....another guy for whom a change of scenery could do a lot of good.
(I mean......based on what we have here now......I would take him over any of our current QBs.)
To be fair, the defense in SF fell apart......his coach fell apart....and I am not sure what happened with the offensive system there, but he did lose confidence.
Again....another guy for whom a change of scenery could do a lot of good.
(I mean......based on what we have here now......I would take him over any of our current QBs.)
The OC from the 49ers left for the Bills, Kaep fell apart, and Tyrod Taylor started looking like an NFL QB.
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To be fair, the defense in SF fell apart......his coach fell apart....and I am not sure what happened with the offensive system there, but he did lose confidence.
Again....another guy for whom a change of scenery could do a lot of good.
(I mean......based on what we have here now......I would take him over any of our current QBs.)
The OC from the 49ers left for the Bills, Kaep fell apart, and Tyrod Taylor started looking like an NFL QB.
The OC from the 49ers left for the Bills, Kaep fell apart, and Tyrod Taylor started looking like an NFL QB.
Ding ding ding...
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The OC from the 49ers left for the Bills, Kaep fell apart, and Tyrod Taylor started looking like an NFL QB.
Ding ding ding...
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So new HC = Greg Romans amiright?!
Woah cowboy. Keep Pettine, get Romans as OC, get Wade Phillips as DC, and ride the Manziel express all the way to respectability!
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The Browns have the $$$ to do some deals.
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The hype and excitement of having a popular QB like J. Manziel on the Browns was tarnished by his youthful and afterhours enjoyment. If the remaining games of this season is not a wakeup call to him, and he continues to do things that caused his publicized actions to put the Browns in the headlines in a negative way, I hope he gets released. If the Browns are willing to hold on to him, and he remains a QB on this team for next season, he better change his ways and fast. He needs to fix his issues and become a "professional' football player for the Cleveland Browns.
And if the Browns are seeking a possible backup solution, and if veteran QB such as R. Griffin becomes available, could he fit with a Browns team with a fresh new start for him as well?
The hype and excitement of having a popular QB like J. Manziel on the Browns was tarnished by his youthful and afterhours enjoyment. If the remaining games of this season is not a wakeup call to him, and he continues to do things that caused his publicized actions to put the Browns in the headlines in a negative way, I hope he gets released. If the Browns are willing to hold on to him, and he remains a QB on this team for next season, he better change his ways and fast. He needs to fix his issues and become a "professional' football player for the Cleveland Browns.
And if the Browns are seeking a possible backup solution, and if veteran QB such as R. Griffin becomes available, could he fit with a Browns team with a fresh new start for him as well?
Not only no, but HELL NO.
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So new HC = Greg Romans amiright?!
Woah cowboy. Keep Pettine, get Romans as OC, get Wade Phillips as DC, and ride the Manziel express all the way to respectability!
Woah cowboy. Keep Pettine, get Romans as OC, get Wade Phillips as DC, and ride the Manziel express all the way to respectability!
I wouldn't hate that.
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I wouldn't hate that.
Of course, but it won't happen. Why would Roman leave Rex Ryan for Inferior Rex Ryan? Why would Wade Phillips leave the no.1 D for the no.31?
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RG is not an upgrade over Manziel.
RG combines a lack of ability to recognize defenses [and ID the corresponding hot route given those defensive looks] with the lack of an ability to work through a progression, and makes up for those two failings by lacking the humility to put in any practice time to get better.
The same has been said for Manziel. They both suck. Kaep is not much different. Nobody who's sober actually thinks Manziel is an NFL QB -- these next few weeks are just an audition to get the Browns something, anything in trade.
RG is not an upgrade over Manziel.
RG combines a lack of ability to recognize defenses [and ID the corresponding hot route given those defensive looks] with the lack of an ability to work through a progression, and makes up for those two failings by lacking the humility to put in any practice time to get better.
The same has been said for Manziel. They both suck. Kaep is not much different. Nobody who's sober actually thinks Manziel is an NFL QB -- these next few weeks are just an audition to get the Browns something, anything in trade.
I would love to see RG3 as a Manziel backup, actually. I think it would be hilarious.
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I wouldn't hate that.
Of course, but it won't happen. Why would Roman leave Rex Ryan for Inferior Rex Ryan? Why would Wade Phillips leave the no.1 D for the no.31?
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RG is not an upgrade over Manziel.
RG combines a lack of ability to recognize defenses [and ID the corresponding hot route given those defensive looks] with the lack of an ability to work through a progression, and makes up for those two failings by lacking the humility to put in any practice time to get better.
The same has been said for Manziel. They both suck. Kaep is not much different. Nobody who's sober actually thinks Manziel is an NFL QB -- these next few weeks are just an audition to get the Browns something, anything in trade.
I would love to see RG3 as a Manziel backup, actually. I think it would be hilarious.
I would love to see RG3 as a Manziel backup, actually. I think it would be hilarious.
I think maybe we should avoid any QBs that come out of Texas or Oklahoma. JFF, Weeden, McCoy.
Of course, Quinn and Hoyer and Charlie Frye came out of Ohio.....
actually...on second thought, Frank Ryan came from Texas....Ft. Worth
How about we go for a guy from Illinois. Otto Graham is from Waukegon, Ill.
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The hype and excitement of having a popular QB like J. Manziel on the Browns was tarnished by his youthful and afterhours enjoyment. If the remaining games of this season is not a wakeup call to him, and he continues to do things that caused his publicized actions to put the Browns in the headlines in a negative way, I hope he gets released. If the Browns are willing to hold on to him, and he remains a QB on this team for next season, he better change his ways and fast. He needs to fix his issues and become a "professional' football player for the Cleveland Browns.
And if the Browns are seeking a possible backup solution, and if veteran QB such as R. Griffin becomes available, could he fit with a Browns team with a fresh new start for him as well?
The hype and excitement of having a popular QB like J. Manziel on the Browns was tarnished by his youthful and afterhours enjoyment. If the remaining games of this season is not a wakeup call to him, and he continues to do things that caused his publicized actions to put the Browns in the headlines in a negative way, I hope he gets released. If the Browns are willing to hold on to him, and he remains a QB on this team for next season, he better change his ways and fast. He needs to fix his issues and become a "professional' football player for the Cleveland Browns.
And if the Browns are seeking a possible backup solution, and if veteran QB such as R. Griffin becomes available, could he fit with a Browns team with a fresh new start for him as well?
Hell no to RG III. Griffin has the bad habit of throwing teammates under the bus when he's not playing well- which is usually the case.
Saw a quote from Pettine today. "Manziel's problems run deeper than what we thought when we drafted him" Take that PG. Sounds like Johnny is heading to Rehab II after the season is over, if you read between the lines. That's assuming he can stay out of trouble until the season is over. Pettine didn't call it a zero tolerance policy- but you can bet the ranch Mike sat down with JFF and spelled it out clearly, and repeated what's expected of him a couple times. "The repercussions would be severe."
Oh and Gip, since you were mentioning where our bust and HOF quarterbacks came from- I just looked it up. Connor Cook is from Hinkley, think he might want to play for the Browns?
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I want Tebow.
Rumor has it that Connor Cook has been mouthing off about the city of Cleveland and how it sucks.
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I want Tebow.
Rumor has it that Connor Cook has been mouthing off about the city of Cleveland and how it sucks.
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I want Tebow.
Rumor has it that Connor Cook has been mouthing off about the city of Cleveland and how it sucks.
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I never understood players crying about a potential landing spot where they will be millionaires. Boo hoo.
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I want Tebow.
Rumor has it that Connor Cook has been mouthing off about the city of Cleveland and how it sucks.
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I never understood players crying about a potential landing spot where they will be millionaires. Boo hoo.
I never understood players crying about a potential landing spot where they will be millionaires. Boo hoo.
And this next statement assumes facts not actually in evidence but if you grow up in Cleveland area and you are not a Browns fan...
You can imagine the string of vulgarities I have planned.
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